The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 15]

[jammy-git]

Black can man said:

General Price said:

I said the same to my brother,Mitrovic is 2 or 3ft off when the ball is crossed.

Are you confusing Feet with Milimetres ?

Don't tell my girlfriend the difference.

[anonymous-user]

Guvernator said:

Not just for this incident but I just think in general linesmen are a bit too eager to call offside these days when the guidance clearly states, if it's too close to call and the lino isn't sure, they should be giving attackers the benefit of the doubt.

Under normal circumstance that's true.

But it's at the Kop end and it's Fulham. The attackers should know this and be a least a yard onside.

Why take the risk?

[Ructions]

Black can man said:

Are you confusing Feet with Milimetres ?

You’re more annoying than Jedward.

[anonymous-user]

Guvernator said:

Not just for this incident but I just think in general linesmen are a bit too eager to call offside these days when the guidance clearly states, if it's too close to call and the lino isn't sure, they should be giving attackers the benefit of the doubt.

The current offside rules are a joke - considering how complex they are and how fast the game is I am surprised how well the officials do.

Even in that picture there is a Fulham player standing well "offside" just near our left back. He is obviously not offside under the current rules but given the angles how is the linesman supposed to accurately judge his position and in reality he is interfering with play as I can't see how are left back isn't affected by him.

For the record, Fulham can feel hard done by. But that's football and the little controversies like that are what keeps everyone talking about the game. It would be boring if every decision was incontrovertible and binary in nature.

[Black can man]

desolate said:

Under normal circumstance that's true.

But it's at the Kop end and it's Fulham. The attackers should know this and be a least a yard onside.

Why take the risk?

Now that’s funny .

[Adam B]

Guvernator said:

still have yet to see a picture or computer simulation actually looking down the line, FWIW I reckon he is fractionally off (also per MOTD 2) but the linesman just saw a line of white shirts and guessed, bloody hard job these days

[m3sye]

Besiktas want Loris Karius on a permanent transfer. They do not intend to send him back to Liverpool.

Club president Fikret Orman: "Karius is an excellent keeper, God willing we will sign him on a permanent transfer.

"Give Karius some time is all I'm saying."

[ferrisbueller]

Black can man said:

Ructions said:

You’re more annoying than Jedward.

Haven’t you got some bedsheets to sort out .

Er.

[ChocolateFrog]

m3sye said:

Besiktas want Loris Karius on a permanent transfer. They do not intend to send him back to Liverpool.

Club president Fikret Orman: "Karius is an excellent keeper, God willing we will sign him on a permanent transfer.

"Give Karius some time is all I'm saying."

Thank fk for that.

[NRS]

jammy-git said:

Black can man said:

General Price said:

I said the same to my brother,Mitrovic is 2 or 3ft off when the ball is crossed.

Are you confusing Feet with Milimetres ?

Don't tell my girlfriend the difference.

[paulrockliffe]

desolate said:

The current offside rules are a joke - considering how complex they are and how fast the game is I am surprised how well the officials do.

Even in that picture there is a Fulham player standing well "offside" just near our left back. He is obviously not offside under the current rules but given the angles how is the linesman supposed to accurately judge his position and in reality he is interfering with play as I can't see how are left back isn't affected by him.

You also have the contradiction that Robertson is not interfering with play either, but his position is taken into account still.

I think it would be better if the rules makers were to sit down and work out what the off-side rule is for and then whether there's a better way to achieve it's aims.

[jammy-git]

paulrockliffe said:

desolate said:

The current offside rules are a joke - considering how complex they are and how fast the game is I am surprised how well the officials do.

Even in that picture there is a Fulham player standing well "offside" just near our left back. He is obviously not offside under the current rules but given the angles how is the linesman supposed to accurately judge his position and in reality he is interfering with play as I can't see how are left back isn't affected by him.

You also have the contradiction that Robertson is not interfering with play either, but his position is taken into account still.

I think it would be better if the rules makers were to sit down and work out what the off-side rule is for and then whether there's a better way to achieve it's aims.

The issue is that we won't get a decent offside rule that is easily enforceable until we have an automated system in place, like goal line technology. A decent version of an offside rule would be one that only takes into account the players that are actually involved in play, as you elude to. But this would by next to impossible for linesmen to track without the use of technology.

[wjb]

jammy-git said:

paulrockliffe said:

desolate said:

The current offside rules are a joke - considering how complex they are and how fast the game is I am surprised how well the officials do.

Even in that picture there is a Fulham player standing well "offside" just near our left back. He is obviously not offside under the current rules but given the angles how is the linesman supposed to accurately judge his position and in reality he is interfering with play as I can't see how are left back isn't affected by him.

You also have the contradiction that Robertson is not interfering with play either, but his position is taken into account still.

I think it would be better if the rules makers were to sit down and work out what the off-side rule is for and then whether there's a better way to achieve it's aims.

The issue is that we won't get a decent offside rule that is easily enforceable until we have an automated system in place, like goal line technology. A decent version of an offside rule would be one that only takes into account the players that are actually involved in play, as you elude to. But this would by next to impossible for linesmen to track without the use of technology.

I'd be happy if it was all left as it is. Technology will ruin the game. Salah doesn't score that breakaway goal if we had var.

You win some - Fulham.
You lose some - Arsenal.

Then we rant about it for a week afterwards.

That's football.

[type-r]

wjb said:

I'd be happy if it was all left as it is. Technology will ruin the game. Salah doesn't score that breakaway goal if we had var.

You win some - Fulham.
You lose some - Arsenal.

Then we rant about it for a week afterwards.

That's football.

Agreed. I have never been a fan of technology in football. Football is a simple game; just a ball and four jumpers is all that is needed. All this VAR and goal line tech... for me it 'spoils' what should be a relatively simple game. Maybe I am just old school.

Money talks, sadly. What next - digital refs? We are taking the emotion out of football. We'll have nothing to debate about, nothing to moan about and we'd have no WUM's!!

[Adam B]

They will find a way to survive, like cockroaches

[Ascayman]

wjb said:

I'd be happy if it was all left as it is. Technology will ruin the game. Salah doesn't score that breakaway goal if we had var.

You win some - Fulham.
You lose some - Arsenal.

Then we rant about it for a week afterwards.

That's football.

Weeks? try relentlessly for months on end with you lot

I agree with the sentiment though, it doesn't even work! no matter what we have been told by those with a vested interest during the world cup there were just as many wrong decisions as there were right ones...

Look at the Rugby in the last two weeks, two games both decided in the last min by VAR both wrong decisions that changed the outcome of the game.

Also one of the reasons football is the most popular games in the world and is played the world over, is that its simple, the same rules apply when i play on a sat morning, when African kids do at a school break time as when messi and ronaldo line up in el classico.

Just leave the beautiful game alone ffs.

Sorry rant over.

[type-r]

Some good analysis about our pressing game this season:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/1155...

[ChocolateFrog]

Or lack thereof.

I didn't realise Can had more goals and assists than Gini, Milner and Hen do put together last season.

[Guvernator]

ChocolateFrog said:

Or lack thereof.

I didn't realise Can had more goals and assists than Gini, Milner and Hen do put together last season.

Never knew why you got rid of him. OK he was a bit lazy but he was by far your most talented midfielder after Coutinho left. Ox is injured long term too so you are now left with some bang average midfielders and a couple of new one's who MAY come good at some point but not really delivered the goods yet.

Personally I'd be sticking Shaqiri in as a number 10 behind you front 3 all the time. At least he gives you some decent attacking flair in midfield without which you are left with sideways pass specialists who give you little penetration and make it harder to get your front 3 involved in the game.

[anonymous-user]

Guvernator said:

Never knew why you got rid of him. OK he was a bit lazy but he was by far your most talented midfielder after Coutinho left. Ox is injured long term too so you are now left with some bang average midfielders and a couple of new one's who MAY come good at some point but not really delivered the goods yet.

Personally I'd be sticking Shaqiri in as a number 10 behind you front 3 all the time. At least he gives you some decent attacking flair in midfield without which you are left with sideways pass specialists who give you little penetration and make it harder to get your front 3 involved in the game.

I don't think we did get rid of him, he wanted the move and got the big money at a top team. From what I know we offered him a decent deal.