The Official Tottenham Hotspud thread [Vol 12]

[TEKNOPUG]

Fittster said:

TEKNOPUG said:

m3sye said:

TEKNOPUG said:

Just putting pressure on Betis. How often do delegations get publicised in such detail?

It's fun though, the utd lot would be fuming if you got him, they have even been putting pics of teams with him in and dybala (who sounds like he don't fancy Thursday football)

I think any incoming players is dependent upon Erikssen + leaving. Hence why nothing is happening.

Replacing Vorm, Llorente and Trippier is dependent on Erikssen leaving?

If you plan on paying actual money for these replacements, yes.

[Fittster]

TEKNOPUG said:

Fittster said:

TEKNOPUG said:

m3sye said:

TEKNOPUG said:

Just putting pressure on Betis. How often do delegations get publicised in such detail?

It's fun though, the utd lot would be fuming if you got him, they have even been putting pics of teams with him in and dybala (who sounds like he don't fancy Thursday football)

I think any incoming players is dependent upon Erikssen + leaving. Hence why nothing is happening.

Replacing Vorm, Llorente and Trippier is dependent on Erikssen leaving?

If you plan on paying actual money for these replacements, yes.

So not spending in the 18/19 season and a £60m this season before we have to sell to buy.

Are you comfortable with a second string side composed of the following?

Gazzaniga
Dier
Foyth
Carter-Vickers
Walker-Peters
Davies
Wanyama
Winks
Lamela
Moura
Nkoudou

[johnnywgk]

Fittster said:

Replacing Vorm, Llorente and Trippier is dependent on Erikssen leaving?

If we sell erikssenson (lol) we need to replace him! Not them monkeys ffs

[johnnywgk]

Fittster said:

So not spending in the 18/19 season and a £60m this season before we have to sell to buy.

Are you comfortable with a second string side composed of the following?

Gazzaniga
Dier
Foyth
Carter-Vickers
Walker-Peters
Davies
Wanyama
Winks
Lamela
Moura
Nkoudou

I would like some of your drugs please

[Fittster]

johnnywgk said:

Fittster said:

So not spending in the 18/19 season and a £60m this season before we have to sell to buy.

Are you comfortable with a second string side composed of the following?

Gazzaniga
Dier
Foyth
Carter-Vickers
Walker-Peters
Davies
Wanyama
Winks
Lamela
Moura
Nkoudou

I would like some of your drugs please

Lets see your first and second string team line ups.

[johnnywgk]

Nkoudo got an assist, lamella scored and moura got 2 hatrick in our last few games

[Fittster]

johnnywgk said:

Nkoudo got an assist, lamella scored and moura got 2 hatrick in our last few games

Nkoudou signed with the club 3 years ago and has since played for us 10 times, only twice in the league.

Lamela is pretty injury prone.

[TEKNOPUG]

Fittster said:

TEKNOPUG said:

Fittster said:

TEKNOPUG said:

m3sye said:

TEKNOPUG said:

Just putting pressure on Betis. How often do delegations get publicised in such detail?

It's fun though, the utd lot would be fuming if you got him, they have even been putting pics of teams with him in and dybala (who sounds like he don't fancy Thursday football)

I think any incoming players is dependent upon Erikssen + leaving. Hence why nothing is happening.

Replacing Vorm, Llorente and Trippier is dependent on Erikssen leaving?

If you plan on paying actual money for these replacements, yes.

So not spending in the 18/19 season and a £60m this season before we have to sell to buy.

Are you comfortable with a second string side composed of the following?

Gazzaniga
Dier
Foyth
Carter-Vickers
Walker-Peters
Davies
Wanyama
Winks
Lamela
Moura
Nkoudou

I literally don't know what you are talking about

I'm talking about the fantasy of Levy spending £100m+ on 2 centre midfielders, plus another £20m for Sessengnon, whilst we have still yet to find buyers for moaning Rose & wantaway Eriksen. Ndombele WAS the transfer budget. Hence why the business was completed early. Any other signings will be dependant upon selling first. Which is why everything has stalled.

What are you talking about?

[Fittster]

TEKNOPUG said:

I literally don't know what you are talking about

I'm talking about the fantasy of Levy spending £100m+ on 2 centre midfielders, plus another £20m for Sessengnon, whilst we have still yet to find buyers for moaning Rose & wantaway Eriksen. Ndombele WAS the transfer budget. Hence why the business was completed early. Any other signings will be dependant upon selling first. Which is why everything has stalled.

What are you talking about?

I believe we have a weak squad,. sure you can come up with a good first 11, but the second string players needed if we are going to progress in multiple competition are either not that great, are injury prone, or simply don't exist (the backup for Kane is who?).

We have players coming to the end of their contract (i.e. Eriksen and Toby) who either need to sign a new contract or be moved on.

There are player reaching the end of their peak years who need to be moved on, like Rose and Sissoko.

You can argue that the transfer window is still open for another week, and signings may well happen. However last minute signings won't have played in pre-season and won't have had any time to train with Poch. We know it takes a long time for new players to be integrated into the team, see the cases of Sissoko and Moura. Is it worth saving a couple of million to get a cheaper price on deadline day if it means that Poch can't get them to integrated into his style of playing until 2020?

Because of the lack of activity in the previous seasons we have a lot of outstanding issues to address. We need both quality and quantity.

In the 18/19 season we lost Dembélé and there were no arrivals, this season we have lost Kieran Trippier, Janssen, Vorm and Llorente. So forgetting Janssen, that is 4 significant members of the first team squad who have left, with only 1 arrival.

Can you make an argument that the depth of quality in the squad isn't being reduced?

Edited by Fittster on Friday 2nd August 11:32

[TEKNOPUG]

Fittster said:

TEKNOPUG said:

I literally don't know what you are talking about

I'm talking about the fantasy of Levy spending £100m+ on 2 centre midfielders, plus another £20m for Sessengnon, whilst we have still yet to find buyers for moaning Rose & wantaway Eriksen. Ndombele WAS the transfer budget. Hence why the business was completed early. Any other signings will be dependant upon selling first. Which is why everything has stalled.

What are you talking about?

I believe we have a weak squad,. sure you can come up with a good first 11, but the second string players needed if we are going to progress in multiple competition are either not that great, are injury prone, or simply don't exist (the backup for Kane is who?).

We have players coming to the end of their contract (i.e. Eriksen and Toby) who either need to sign a new contract or be moved on.

There are player reaching the end of their peak years who need to be moved on, like Rose and Sissoko.

You can argue that the transfer window is still open for another week, and signings may well happen. However last minute signings won't have played in pre-season and won't have had any time to train with Poch. We know it takes a long time for new players to be integrated into the team, see the cases of Sissoko and Moura. Is it worth saving a couple of million to get a cheaper price on deadline day if it means that Poch can't get them to integrated into his style of playing until 2020?

Because of the lack of activity in the previous seasons we have a lot of outstanding issues to address. We need both quality and quantity.

In the 18/19 season we lost Dembélé and there were no arrivals, this season we have lost Kieran Trippier, Janssen, Vorm and Llorente. So forgetting Janssen, that is 4 significant members of the first team squad who have left, with only 1 arrival.

Can you make an argument that the depth of quality in the squad isn't being reduced?

Edited by Fittster on Friday 2nd August 11:32

hmmmm......so I'm talking about Levy not spending £150m net in this transfer window and you're talking about the need to strengthen the squad. Different conversations I think

[Fittster]

Transfer deadline is coming. I'm getting ready with a post deadline rant.

[lemmingjames]

Fittster said:

Transfer deadline is coming. I'm getting ready with a post deadline rant.

why? last time 'we' purchased 7 players in one go, only 2 ended up staying and 1 of em is semi broken

[48k]

Fittster said:

Transfer deadline is coming. I'm getting ready with a post deadline rant.

I don't think you'd be alone.

If things stay as they are it will have been poor business for us. As it stands we've signed a replacement for a player we let go in January and a young striker we can't use for a year. We've done nothing to strengthen our defence which, on the evidence of pre-season games, urgently needs attention. We're playing too high a line for the pace of our defenders and at least twice we got caught out with a through ball. On top of that, we've already got injuries to key defenders before the season has even started.

On the up side we've had a proper pre season at last and the likes of Kane, Moura and Son look sharp an on form - Kane in particular looks as fit and as sharp as I've ever seen him - and the kids like Skipp, Parrot, Tanganga and Whiteman slotted right in and looked at home. Oh and for the second pre season in a row we've won a trophy of course.

On the downside, Foyth's out for a month, Dier's recovering from surgery, Aurier's had to have an operation on his hand and is not fit yet, Alli's done the same hammy he did last season that put him out for a month and Eriksen continues to look disinterested and hopeful of a move elsewhere. New boy dom-pele looks great going forward, not so much on the defensive side. He badly needs to get "premier league fit" otherwise we've got another Sissoko on our hands who is going to take a year to come good in our system.

Haringey have just approved a planning application to increase capacity at the new ground by 152 seats to 62214 and my hunch is that they are all premium seats as they have a new premium product this season called "The Broadcast Booth" for groups up to 6 to watch the game with analysis by a Spurs legend, so hopefully that few extra quid in the kitty can go towards transfer funds (dare to dream)!

I can see us scoring a lot of goals this season and Kane has got to be in with a great shout of the golden boot again but we're going a leak a hell of a lot at the back and it's a big worry. Forget challenging City we're going to be lucky to make top 4 at the moment as other's have strengthened we've effectively stood still.

Strap in for another rollercoaster season!

[NRS]

I’m wondering if you’ll be like us under BR - just try and outscore the opposition? You’ve lost some more experienced defenders over recent years, and (so far) the replacements don’t seem to be the same quality/experience. Add in those injuries and could be a busy year for Lloris.

On the plus side you’re playing your games at home home, so that will be basically all wins apart from a draw and two losses I think it was (based on references to stats of last season of WHL compared to Wembley)?

[48k]

NRS said:

On the plus side you’re playing your games at home home, so that will be basically all wins apart from a draw and two losses I think it was (based on references to stats of last season of WHL compared to Wembley)?

No chance.
The last season at OWHL was the last season we played almost all season with a wingback formation with Rose and Walker out wide and Dembele and Wanyama anchoring the middle. It's some of the best football I've seen us play in terms of consistency across a season.

Since then we've sold two of those key players the other two are well on their way down in terms of injuries and form and we rarely play a back 3 formation now as we simply don't have the players any more.

NWHL was not a fortress at the end of last season but then we were having a terrible dip in form at the time so maybe we can hope to have better results their this year but we won't go unbeaten there we're just going to concede too many goals.

[Adam B]

48k said:

Forget challenging City we're going to be lucky to make top 4 at the moment as other's have strengthened we've effectively stood still.

Strap in for another rollercoaster season!

City and us have stood still
Chelsea gone backwards
Arsenal haven’t fixed their main issue

Only united have improved IMHO

Edited by Adam B on Tuesday 6th August 08:47

[Fittster]

The rant is brewing..

[Adam B]

Fittster said:

Are you comfortable with a second string side composed of the following?

Gazzaniga
Dier
Foyth
Carter-Vickers
Walker-Peters
Davies
Wanyama
Winks
Lamela
Moura
Nkoudou

Am I missing something? That doesn't look too bad IMHO, only City could put out a B side that could finish top 6/7

[Fittster]

Adam B said:

Fittster said:

Are you comfortable with a second string side composed of the following?

Gazzaniga
Dier
Foyth
Carter-Vickers
Walker-Peters
Davies
Wanyama
Winks
Lamela
Moura
Nkoudou

Am I missing something? That doesn't look too bad IMHO, only City could put out a B side that could finish top 6/7

1. Gazzaniga - has been poor in pre-season and I think he's only ever played in the league cup. He was never able to displace Vorm to for the number 2 slot.

1. Dier - Is he a CB or DM? He's never seemed keen on being a CB and hasn't played their much. When it comes to midfield his passing limitation are fairly well known.

1. Carter-Vickers - Since Poch arrived he's been out on loan, that's generally a big sign that Poch doesn't think you have a future at the club.

1. Foyth - Still quite rash but he's fine as one for the future. If his future isn't as a CB then that means 2 of the players who have to cover that position are playing out of position (Foyth and Dier).

1. Walker-Peters - He's not been able to take the opportunities that have presented themselves to him, looks like he doesn't have physical attributes to crack it at an elite team.

1. Ben Davies - He's OK

1. Wanyama - Destroyed by injuries

1. Winks - Everyone seems to rate him, I see Tom Carroll MK2. He's probably the level we should expect of the second string 11.

1. Lamela - Can you rely on him to stay fit? When he's fit he's challenging for a starting position.

1. Moura - Happy to have him in the squad.

1. Nkoudou - If we could find a buy he would have left years ago.

Also there's no striker. We currently have no recognized strikers in the squad to cover for Kane (Yes, there's 17 year old Parrot but he's never played a 1st minute anywhere). Kane does get injured and his states from last season were worry, worse case scenario is that we have already seen peak Kane.

[Adam B]

"Moura - Happy to have him in the squad."

Bloody hell, your CL hero! You seem to have knocked over your half full pint

Also your number pad is stuck on number 1