Reporting crimes to the police
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Is there any point ?
In the last 2 weeks I've had 3 attempted burglaries . We live in a nice house , nice area , couple of nice cars outside , no garage so cars in full view , I'm guessing they want the keys to a 340i touring as it's always parked handy to pull out easily.
First attempt was probably a recon , jumped over the gates for a look around the back of the house , wife woke up , I went downstairs and put the lights on and they've gone . I put it down to opportunists and left it at that , no big deal , we live in a town centre in a detached cottage and in honesty I've been waiting for it since we moved here over twelve years ago .
Next attempt was when the wife pulled up and noticed something wrong with one of the front windows , bearing in mind we live on a side street but with a through road that is used regularly and parked on too . Someone had removed the beading from the double glazing to pull out the window unit , I know its old fashioned and they're also in need of replacing but you know how it is as I've been promising to replace the windows for ages . I reported this to the police and they sent someone out the next day for fingerprints then the day after to take a report .
Now I'm realising I need to improve security so I order a cctv system , it's delivered at 3pm and by 6pm I've got 2 cameras up and running but I've run out of daytime light .
8 hours later I wake up hearing something , turn the tv on and there's some d
head having another go at taking the window out ! I jump up , run down the stairs and straight outside but they've heard me coming and they've gone . I also realise how possibly stupid I've been as I've left the door open and my wife's inside and I'm alone , heat of the moment thing !
But here's the point , wife phones 999 , reports a burglary in progress and it's been recorded on cctv . The answer was " if we have anyone available we'll send them round , if not someone we'll call tomorrow "
18 hours later a wpc with a community support officer come round ! I asked " are you here for the burglar " when they replied yes I told them " your a bit late , he left ages ago "
They then lecture me on having nice cars in full view , living where I do and confronting the thieving tt . They never even asked to view the cctv recording !
No wonder the thieving fkers dare try to break in an obviously occupied house , they're 99% certain the cops won't bother coming out , probably to busy looking for drivers speeding or on telephones .
In the last 2 weeks I've had 3 attempted burglaries . We live in a nice house , nice area , couple of nice cars outside , no garage so cars in full view , I'm guessing they want the keys to a 340i touring as it's always parked handy to pull out easily.
First attempt was probably a recon , jumped over the gates for a look around the back of the house , wife woke up , I went downstairs and put the lights on and they've gone . I put it down to opportunists and left it at that , no big deal , we live in a town centre in a detached cottage and in honesty I've been waiting for it since we moved here over twelve years ago .
Next attempt was when the wife pulled up and noticed something wrong with one of the front windows , bearing in mind we live on a side street but with a through road that is used regularly and parked on too . Someone had removed the beading from the double glazing to pull out the window unit , I know its old fashioned and they're also in need of replacing but you know how it is as I've been promising to replace the windows for ages . I reported this to the police and they sent someone out the next day for fingerprints then the day after to take a report .
Now I'm realising I need to improve security so I order a cctv system , it's delivered at 3pm and by 6pm I've got 2 cameras up and running but I've run out of daytime light .
8 hours later I wake up hearing something , turn the tv on and there's some d
head having another go at taking the window out ! I jump up , run down the stairs and straight outside but they've heard me coming and they've gone . I also realise how possibly stupid I've been as I've left the door open and my wife's inside and I'm alone , heat of the moment thing ! But here's the point , wife phones 999 , reports a burglary in progress and it's been recorded on cctv . The answer was " if we have anyone available we'll send them round , if not someone we'll call tomorrow "
18 hours later a wpc with a community support officer come round ! I asked " are you here for the burglar " when they replied yes I told them " your a bit late , he left ages ago "
They then lecture me on having nice cars in full view , living where I do and confronting the thieving t
t . They never even asked to view the cctv recording ! No wonder the thieving f
kers dare try to break in an obviously occupied house , they're 99% certain the cops won't bother coming out , probably to busy looking for drivers speeding or on telephones . Fortunately I've lived in the real world all my life and after having a builders yard for many years I'm no stranger to thieves . It's just a pity the police appear to be completely incompetent , especially when it's an occupied house . I'll probably not bother reporting the next attempt, I'm expecting one as the thieving tts have put a bit to much effort in to get nothing !
ts have put a bit to much effort in to get nothing ! If it’s in progress or the people are nearby it should be treated as an immediate / grade 1 / other names which means the police should come within 10 minutes. If it’s not classed as that, for whatever reason, then they are likely to come later.
Also if there are lots of other incidents that are graded more highly, the resources may be deployed to those incidents.
That doesn’t help you and it’s very annoying when you’re a decent law-abiding person and some cretins are trying to get your vehicle/s.
Also if there are lots of other incidents that are graded more highly, the resources may be deployed to those incidents.
That doesn’t help you and it’s very annoying when you’re a decent law-abiding person and some cretins are trying to get your vehicle/s.
Rough idea where on the Wirral? Seems quite common at the moment around Wallasey Village.
Generally a nice area and plenty of nice cars knocking around, I’ve got CCTV in very obvious places after a Ring doorbell opened my eyes to how often people try our car doors.
Neighbours have had some nice cars taken off their drives recently on our road.
Generally a nice area and plenty of nice cars knocking around, I’ve got CCTV in very obvious places after a Ring doorbell opened my eyes to how often people try our car doors.
Neighbours have had some nice cars taken off their drives recently on our road.
Brads67 said:
There's that defender I mentioned earlier.
No defending, just discussing and offering possible explanations. I don’t think you read what I wrote. You were just waiting to fire that line off regardless. Why don’t you offer your services, Rambo? Your internet bravado will really help the OP.
paulwirral said:
I expected someone to at least call in within an hour just to ask for a look at the recording so if they pull anyone in they could Id him the same night .
I'm posting this form the sofa as I'm on ' nightshift ' in my own home !
Make sure you keep calling in any incidents. May not feel like getting anywhere, but it’ll potentially highlight a ‘hot spot’. There may be other properties receiving similar unwanted attention etc. I'm posting this form the sofa as I'm on ' nightshift ' in my own home !
You could always make a complaint about the way the matter was handled. I'm sure they won't then try to hound you out of town by following you all over the place, fabricating motoring offences and threatening you outside a courtroom. That never happens, the police said so. Go right ahead.
zarjaz1991 said:
You could always make a complaint about the way the matter was handled. I'm sure they won't then try to hound you out of town by following you all over the place, fabricating motoring offences and threatening you outside a courtroom. That never happens, the police said so. Go right ahead.
Sounds intriguing, tell us more 
There aren't enough Police to deal with things that aren't crimes in progress.
That's why all these scrotes can do this stuff, they know it's stretched to breaking point.
It sucks, but that's where we are. The idea that the Police have the resources to pop around and have a cup of tea before spending the evening searching for a guy in a hoodie is a fantasy nowadays.
Despite what some would have you believe - I doubt very much anyone who joined the Police on average pay, crazy hours and stress actually wants this state of affairs. They have no choice.
That's why all these scrotes can do this stuff, they know it's stretched to breaking point.
It sucks, but that's where we are. The idea that the Police have the resources to pop around and have a cup of tea before spending the evening searching for a guy in a hoodie is a fantasy nowadays.
Despite what some would have you believe - I doubt very much anyone who joined the Police on average pay, crazy hours and stress actually wants this state of affairs. They have no choice.
When our car was taken the police (Leeds suburbs) arrived within 10 mins or so of the call. Probably helped being 7pm and having young kids in the house.
BiL is a sargent in an adjacent force and sadly I'm all too aware of how scant resources are.
I'd ensure the windows and doors have the latest locks on and the areas have strong reactive lighting. CCTV might not be as much of a deterrent as you'd hope, as they can just cover up.
The worst thing is, if they get caught and prosecuted, they're likely to get little more than a ticking off, in relative terms.
BiL is a sargent in an adjacent force and sadly I'm all too aware of how scant resources are.
I'd ensure the windows and doors have the latest locks on and the areas have strong reactive lighting. CCTV might not be as much of a deterrent as you'd hope, as they can just cover up.
The worst thing is, if they get caught and prosecuted, they're likely to get little more than a ticking off, in relative terms.
The nice thing about living in Texas is that if someone breaks into your house, you can shoot them.
Yes report it, crooks follow a pattern so they're probably trying to break into other homes in the area.
If anything, it will increase the likeliness of more patrols in your neighborhood.
Yes report it, crooks follow a pattern so they're probably trying to break into other homes in the area.
If anything, it will increase the likeliness of more patrols in your neighborhood.
La Liga said:
ake sure you keep calling in any incidents. May not feel like getting anywhere, but it’ll potentially highlight a ‘hot spot’. There may be other properties receiving similar unwanted attention etc.
paulwirral said:
Is there any point ?
paulwirral said:
I'll probably not bother reporting the next attempt,
Yes, they probably won't like it. Otherwise it's not on the books and recorded or they won't do/know anything.On the flip side they will use it as an excuse to raise your policing element of council tax so more diversity training etc can be done, it's a bit of a no win situation.
Are you in the Cheshire part of the Wirral. They were mentioned in fiddling figures debate
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/1055...
Although more recently according to one report in the county crime has increased a 3rd, maybe they are just recording things better now seeing as they asked for and got more cash off "hard working families".
janesmith1950 said:
BiL is a sargent in an adjacent force and sadly I'm all too aware of how scant resources are.
Do you think that's why you got 'decent service' you knew what to say ?I knew resources would come up, I have scant resources to pay bills so I just utilise what I have better and consider scrapping non essential b
ks, maybe the public service should try it that rather than always asking for a larger begging bowl?Brads67 said:
Welcome to the real world.
Don't worry, the usual cop defenders will be along shortly to explain why you're in the wrong.
In the real world, if you want an immediate response to every report you will have to accept that taxation will rise to pay for the extra resources which would be required. If that is too unpalatable then you have to accept that calls will be triaged and resources prioritised. It is exactly the same if you want better healthcare, roads, education or armed forces.Don't worry, the usual cop defenders will be along shortly to explain why you're in the wrong.
Is your argument is that there are more than enough officers sat around all day and night doing very little and that most/all UK police are lazy, corrupt, incompetent or badly trained? If so, that does does not chime true with my (admittedly limited) experience of policing in the UK.
AB said:
Rough idea where on the Wirral? Seems quite common at the moment around Wallasey Village.
Generally a nice area and plenty of nice cars knocking around, I’ve got CCTV in very obvious places after a Ring doorbell opened my eyes to how often people try our car doors.
Neighbours have had some nice cars taken off their drives recently on our road.
It's heswall and it's a ch postcode , apparently there's been a few people reporting scrotes in the area on cctv recently. Generally a nice area and plenty of nice cars knocking around, I’ve got CCTV in very obvious places after a Ring doorbell opened my eyes to how often people try our car doors.
Neighbours have had some nice cars taken off their drives recently on our road.
I'm hoping I've done enough to deter them , but the sad reality is if I have they'll just move on to someone else . At least it's a great street where I live and I've agreed with a few of the neighbours that we'll all leave our phones on overnight so at least if there's anymore trouble we know we hopefully won't be alone if we confront the scum . We aren't lawless vigilantes but it's good to know we'll help each other . Especially seeing as 1 of the guys wife is often alone as his work takes him away overnight.
I'm lucky to live on a good street .
I don’t know whether things are getting worse or social media means the smallest thing is reported followed by 300 replies of ‘omg hun u ok wot a load of feral scum I blame da pairants’.
I’ve had a guy with what was presumably an empty pizza box peering through my front door at 3am on a Sunday morning before staring at the camera and quickly moving on. Same night a neighbour had a Golf R and a 430 stolen off their driveway.
Guess what happened when I told the police and offered to send them the video?
“We’ll be in touch” followed by nothing.
The one time I think I managed to press the unlock button on my car whilst carrying a load of stuff inside, someone ransacked it. This was Dawstone Road. I have no doubt these people walk round the streets most nights trying car doors.
They never appear to get caught.
I’ve had a guy with what was presumably an empty pizza box peering through my front door at 3am on a Sunday morning before staring at the camera and quickly moving on. Same night a neighbour had a Golf R and a 430 stolen off their driveway.
Guess what happened when I told the police and offered to send them the video?
“We’ll be in touch” followed by nothing.
The one time I think I managed to press the unlock button on my car whilst carrying a load of stuff inside, someone ransacked it. This was Dawstone Road. I have no doubt these people walk round the streets most nights trying car doors.
They never appear to get caught.
AB said:
I don’t know whether things are getting worse or social media means the smallest thing is reported followed by 300 replies of ‘omg hun u ok wot a load of feral scum I blame da pairants’.
I’ve had a guy with what was presumably an empty pizza box peering through my front door at 3am on a Sunday morning before staring at the camera and quickly moving on. Same night a neighbour had a Golf R and a 430 stolen off their driveway.
Guess what happened when I told the police and offered to send them the video?
“We’ll be in touch” followed by nothing.
The one time I think I managed to press the unlock button on my car whilst carrying a load of stuff inside, someone ransacked it. This was Dawstone Road. I have no doubt these people walk round the streets most nights trying car doors.
They never appear to get caught.
I think you rang the same cops I did ! Sounds like you live nearby , wife used to walk the dog along there . I’ve had a guy with what was presumably an empty pizza box peering through my front door at 3am on a Sunday morning before staring at the camera and quickly moving on. Same night a neighbour had a Golf R and a 430 stolen off their driveway.
Guess what happened when I told the police and offered to send them the video?
“We’ll be in touch” followed by nothing.
The one time I think I managed to press the unlock button on my car whilst carrying a load of stuff inside, someone ransacked it. This was Dawstone Road. I have no doubt these people walk round the streets most nights trying car doors.
They never appear to get caught.
I've obviously been targeted , I'm guessing it's the BMW as it's parked for easy exit and the other ones a 43amg that's not much use apart from joyriding and the BMW blocks it in . Can't imagine the scrotes will be moving cars around in order to take one so I'd now qualify for the bad parking thread outside my house !
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