Man city vs spurs offside?

Man city vs spurs offside?

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crimbo

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1,308 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Aguerro is standing offside but the ball was played backwards by a spurs player. It took a deflection from a man city player trying to block the pass and went to aguerro.

Was this right as the man city player didnt make the pass?

Is it offside because of the deflection

If erikson had passed it to aguerro offside he wouldnt be offside?

Im a neutral in this game and just wonder if it was the correct call etc

Rosscow

8,723 posts

162 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Who cares biggrin

Integroo

11,574 posts

84 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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It was played forward by a City player, offside. If a City player hadn't touched it, Aguero wouldn't have been offside.

Black can man

31,816 posts

167 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Must be the reason the Spurs defenders stopped i reckon.

Nimby

4,573 posts

149 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Law 11 https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/gene... page 33:

"A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play ..."

COYS!

crimbo

Original Poster:

1,308 posts

227 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Ok thank you, great game

Black can man

31,816 posts

167 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Still can't believe what has happened.


Puggit

48,355 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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As a Watford fan who suffered the most ridiculous offside goal to City recently, and with a Swansea supporting BiL, afraid I laughed at the total justice of that offside goal being chalked off.

Wasn't sure about VAR before - bring it on...

Big GT

1,799 posts

91 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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But the opinion and decision to whether its offside or not should be the ref's and the refs only. He's there and he calls it.

Having another set of official sat in a video room reviewing and providing their 'opinion' takes authority away from the ref. He is the authority and should be respected.

Remember the reason and principle of the offside decision. To stop player goal hanging and having clear advantages by doing so. But when we're talking inches, shoulders, knees length that are offside and can only be picked up by camera, does it matter, would in make a difference, probably not. .

I agree VAR reverses clear ref errors. But does it really resolve a problem in football? No. Otherwise it would be rolled out in the Championship down to Nationwide league.

For me VAR is the thin end of the wedge.


But what a game!


Puggit

48,355 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Offside is binary. Unless City are playing Watford there is no room for referee error (referee did not know the actual laws of the game, linesman correctly flagged it offside). VAR should be used for binary decisions like offiside or ball crossing the line.

Referees in the PL have a clear bias to helping the big 6 - so errors have to be ironed out. My concern is over rules that can be interpreted - ie deliberate handball or intent to use an elbow. Refs will continue to use their bias to favour the big teams. VAR use during the World Cup proved this.

TaylotS2K

1,964 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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For me the offside isn't in question. The Llorente goal is though. Personally I would have given it. However, given UEFA stance on handballs in the UCL this season I was surprised it was given.

ChocolateFrog

24,869 posts

172 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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It was offside all day long. Tight call but it was still clearly offside, move on.

LoonyTunes

3,362 posts

74 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Big GT said:
I agree VAR reverses clear ref errors. But does it really resolve a problem in football? No. Otherwise it would be rolled out in the Championship down to Nationwide league.
I think you'll find VAR isn't in the lower leagues for reasons of Cost/Logistics - not any other consideration.

Squirrelofwoe

3,181 posts

175 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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I'd actually quite like to see the offside rule removed altogether! hehe

If teams want to leave a player goal hanging, so be it- they potentially leave themselves more exposed elsewhere. The opposition can choose to leave players back to cover if they so wish, opening the pitch up even further, or ignore the goal hanger(s) altogether, thereby obtaining a numerical advantage further up. Could lead to some interesting plays/tactics, it might open up new opportunities for aging but clinical finishers, and to me just seems like it could be an absolute laugh! nuts

I would get far greater enjoyment watching quarter-back-esq defenders arrowing long balls up to a 45 year old Inzaghi and seeing if he can score before a defender gets back, than watching a gazillion replays of an incident to decide whether a player's toe was a fraction of an inch offside.

So many possibilities, what could possibly go wrong! biggrin

Puggit

48,355 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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No offside or the old offside. The current offside laws are an abomination of the game.

p4cks

6,885 posts

198 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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as is VAR

GetCarter

29,358 posts

278 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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TaylotS2K said:
For me the offside isn't in question. The Llorente goal is though. Personally I would have given it. However, given UEFA stance on handballs in the UCL this season I was surprised it was given.
But the ball didn't touch his hand or arm. It clearly came off his thigh. Good decision by Ref and VAR.

48k

12,986 posts

147 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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GetCarter said:
TaylotS2K said:
For me the offside isn't in question. The Llorente goal is though. Personally I would have given it. However, given UEFA stance on handballs in the UCL this season I was surprised it was given.
But the ball didn't touch his hand or arm. It clearly came off his thigh. Good decision by Ref and VAR.
The ball touched Llorentes arm first. It then hit his thigh which directed it in to the goal.

TaylotS2K

1,964 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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48k said:
GetCarter said:
TaylotS2K said:
For me the offside isn't in question. The Llorente goal is though. Personally I would have given it. However, given UEFA stance on handballs in the UCL this season I was surprised it was given.
But the ball didn't touch his hand or arm. It clearly came off his thigh. Good decision by Ref and VAR.
The ball touched Llorentes arm first. It then hit his thigh which directed it in to the goal.
Yep. It hits his arm first then thigh.

Integroo

11,574 posts

84 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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TaylotS2K said:
For me the offside isn't in question. The Llorente goal is though. Personally I would have given it. However, given UEFA stance on handballs in the UCL this season I was surprised it was given.
It didn't touch his hand, as far as I could see.

Even if it did, I would still have given it as is hands were in a natural position and it was not deliberate. If his hands weren't there, it would still have went in off his waist.