The Official Everton thread - Vol 2
Discussion
Fast Bug said:
Richarlison has been given a 3 game ban. Can't really argue with that
Agreed and with any luck Pickford might get a retrospective ban. Sad news about VVD, rivalries aside it’s not nice to see a player suffer that sort of injury. He certainly put an early calling card into James and DCLs top pocket, so there is a limit to my sympathy, but Pickford is a nutter. Happy with Saturdays point tbh. Didn't play well but we didn't crumble after going a goal down.
The VAR decision made it feel like a win. Those results never go for us so nice to get one.
I see big red is still in meltdown and hope the club support Pickford as I imagine he doesn't feel great right now. The loveable RS already sending the inevitable death threats to him and Richie with the police investigating.
Still top of the league. Up the nasty b
d toffees.
The VAR decision made it feel like a win. Those results never go for us so nice to get one.
I see big red is still in meltdown and hope the club support Pickford as I imagine he doesn't feel great right now. The loveable RS already sending the inevitable death threats to him and Richie with the police investigating.
Still top of the league. Up the nasty b
d toffees. Pickford really is mystifying, the disallowed goal was a dreadful piece of goalkeeping, but some of his earlier saves were top drawer, is it technique or concentration? That was our worst performance this season, yet we got back into the game twice and created plenty of chances against a very good side, we are progressing for the first time in a long time.
Do two wrongs makes a right then? Both look to have been bad tackles, the VVD one and the Pickford one.
I'd like to believe Pickford isn't the kind of ignorant oaf who's pleased with himself after what happened - and that he tries to learn from what happened - he's hardly the epitome of calm between the sticks.
I'd like to believe Pickford isn't the kind of ignorant oaf who's pleased with himself after what happened - and that he tries to learn from what happened - he's hardly the epitome of calm between the sticks.
David Squires footie cartoon is worth catching this week, very funny. The media backlash is quite disturbing on this, clearly Liverpool want to keep the story running and highlight the perceived injustice. The twin intellects of Merson and Groves now piling in as well, apparently Sons leg breaking tackle on Gomes was a slip, while Kean fouling for PSG is down to the fact he’s an Everton player.
It’s all quite amusing, especially as Carragher has stood up for Pickford and RAWK is now calling for him to be replaced on Sky over the ‘spitting’ incident!!! I wonder how they feel about defending the biting, racist Suarez now?
It’s all quite amusing, especially as Carragher has stood up for Pickford and RAWK is now calling for him to be replaced on Sky over the ‘spitting’ incident!!! I wonder how they feel about defending the biting, racist Suarez now?
hilly10 said:
I am not defending Pickford far from it, my point is bad tackles happen.
Pickford committed a very bad foul, other footballers commit very bad fouls, even Liverpool players. The backlash on this is down to two things, Pickford didn’t get punished and Liverpool didn’t win, I guess they’re bitter. You just have to wonder at the fact we have really got under their skin this time, it’s been a while since we offered up a challenge. The Dutch player with a scrabble score name reckons we always go after them in derby games, maybe he missed VVDs early assaults on James and DCL, possibly never saw Gerrard cut Naismith in two or Tommy Smith end Geoff McNulty's career. Laughable hypocrisy.
If you watch it, Pickford has his eyes on the ball when it's in the air and starts moving towards it, he doesn't see VvD until it's too late and he's already fully commited. It's 100% a clumsy challenge, but he's not set out to hurt a player (very players few ever do, I can only think of a couple that did). If it had been another keeper on say a Fulham player would there be this much of an aftermath and days of hauling over the coals?
Did VAR fk up? 100% no doubt.
Should Pickford have been sent off? Yeah I'd say so
Should the FA have given a retrospective red for it? Yup, I don't think anyone would complain at that.
Is it sad a player will be out for a lengthy period? Yes, everyone wants to see the best players playing, that's why we love football.
Should Pickford have got all of the abuse and threats? Nope.
Should Souness wind his neck in? 100%, he broke someones jaw and is was known for being a nasty bd for fks sake 
Have we seen worse challenges in the Mersey derby? 100% yes, some people have short memories!
I hope for Pickford's sake we play Olsen this weekend, the lad could do with a break to sort his head out. He really does need to calm down when he's playing though, if he wants to improve his game he needs to chill out and focus on the game.
Did VAR f
k up? 100% no doubt.Should Pickford have been sent off? Yeah I'd say so
Should the FA have given a retrospective red for it? Yup, I don't think anyone would complain at that.
Is it sad a player will be out for a lengthy period? Yes, everyone wants to see the best players playing, that's why we love football.
Should Pickford have got all of the abuse and threats? Nope.
Should Souness wind his neck in? 100%, he broke someones jaw and is was known for being a nasty b
d for fks sake Have we seen worse challenges in the Mersey derby? 100% yes, some people have short memories!
I hope for Pickford's sake we play Olsen this weekend, the lad could do with a break to sort his head out. He really does need to calm down when he's playing though, if he wants to improve his game he needs to chill out and focus on the game.
Fast Bug said:
If you watch it, Pickford has his eyes on the ball when it's in the air and starts moving towards it, he doesn't see VvD until it's too late and he's already fully commited. It's 100% a clumsy challenge, but he's not set out to hurt a player (very players few ever do, I can only think of a couple that did). If it had been another keeper on say a Fulham player would there be this much of an aftermath and days of hauling over the coals?
Did VAR fk up? 100% no doubt.
Should Pickford have been sent off? Yeah I'd say so
Should the FA have given a retrospective red for it? Yup, I don't think anyone would complain at that.
Is it sad a player will be out for a lengthy period? Yes, everyone wants to see the best players playing, that's why we love football.
Should Pickford have got all of the abuse and threats? Nope.
Should Souness wind his neck in? 100%, he broke someones jaw and is was known for being a nasty bd for fks sake
Have we seen worse challenges in the Mersey derby? 100% yes, some people have short memories!
I hope for Pickford's sake we play Olsen this weekend, the lad could do with a break to sort his head out. He really does need to calm down when he's playing though, if he wants to improve his game he needs to chill out and focus on the game.
Can't really argue with any of that tbhDid VAR f
k up? 100% no doubt.Should Pickford have been sent off? Yeah I'd say so
Should the FA have given a retrospective red for it? Yup, I don't think anyone would complain at that.
Is it sad a player will be out for a lengthy period? Yes, everyone wants to see the best players playing, that's why we love football.
Should Pickford have got all of the abuse and threats? Nope.
Should Souness wind his neck in? 100%, he broke someones jaw and is was known for being a nasty b
d for fks sake Have we seen worse challenges in the Mersey derby? 100% yes, some people have short memories!
I hope for Pickford's sake we play Olsen this weekend, the lad could do with a break to sort his head out. He really does need to calm down when he's playing though, if he wants to improve his game he needs to chill out and focus on the game.
My issue was as much with the ref as the recklessness of the challenge, the fact he didn't know the rules and the fact lines were drawn to elbows is just f
ked up at this level... Bad tackles happen I agree, I think Pickford was more head gone jumping knee high with 0 control, the one you have shown of Virg was a controlled slide where he actually won the ball and that players foot goes where the ball was... That will always happen in football
The key to me about that over Pickford was how out of control he was...
But as I said my biggest issues is the refs atm tbh, its unacceptable to not know the rules at this level, to be covering up for them in the way they have and also to be drawing lines to elbows and using stills to draw lines where it's obvious the ball has already left the passers foot...
The officials had a shocker no doubt about it. If they can award a penalty after full time, then they can look at the incident. And yes players (and managers) can be sent off after full time. Carlo got a red card last season after the game had finished.
Oh and that was a goal no doubt about it. I'm hoping we'll be known as EVARton this season
Oh and that was a goal no doubt about it. I'm hoping we'll be known as EVARton this season
Fast Bug said:
. I'm hoping we'll be known as EVARton this season
I also found that very amusing when we were LiVAPool as we had a number of decisions last year that went against us, obviously though they get forgotton about 
Time to move on from that game, I just hope the sort the line situation out and refs learn the rules for the next game
On the subject of retrospective punishment, is it not the case that because the officials acted at the time the decision has to stand? I think they would open a proper can of worms if they now punished Pickford, even though it would be the right thing to do.
I don’t understand why football doesn’t follow the examples of Rugby and cricket when it comes to reviews, the whole thing seems designed to protect officials which is just plain wrong. As for Sourness, I stopped listening to him after he sold his story to The Sun post Hillsborough.
I don’t understand why football doesn’t follow the examples of Rugby and cricket when it comes to reviews, the whole thing seems designed to protect officials which is just plain wrong. As for Sourness, I stopped listening to him after he sold his story to The Sun post Hillsborough.
Blue62 said:
On the subject of retrospective punishment, is it not the case that because the officials acted at the time the decision has to stand? I think they would open a proper can of worms if they now punished Pickford, even though it would be the right thing to do.
This issue with this is they told LFC after the game they had not looked at it as they were judging the offside (so it was missed as they didnt believe they had to if offside)- next day they said he cant be punished (something I was personally not bothered about) because they had seen it - so they are covering up for the failures of their refs who basically dont know the rules... you can understand any club fuming about being lied to so they can protect 1 of their own... Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff