Porsche Driving Experience - Can I be bothered?
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I have had my invitation to PEC for my Spyder experience for quite a while now and I am struggling to raise any enthusiasm for it. To be honest I find it a bit meh. To put that in context I live on the Isle of Man so its not exactly round the corner. I love driving my cars and have lots of opportunities both here, in the UK and in Europe. Any spare time can be easily filled with a blast out. I also do quite a few track days and events and as an International Cat C race licence holder I don't feel short changed on circuit experience. I have done a couple of PEC half days at Silverstone already and I am not sure there is much left to interest me there. I have also taken some of the family with me but I found that as we were all in different cars it was not much of a shared experience.
Any body else? Or am i missing something?
Are there any other venues that we can access? Europe perhaps?
Mind you the grub is excellent
Any body else? Or am i missing something?
Are there any other venues that we can access? Europe perhaps?
Mind you the grub is excellent
..I'm sure the instructors will be up for it.
You can trade in your half day against other days they offer....they give you £500 credit. I did a precision day which is a full day of tuition with half a day on the main track. Cost me £249 using my own car. You can rent PEC cars...but then it gets expensive. GT3 is £1200 ish to hire I think.
There are also things like RS experience days where you get to drive 3 generations of the RS. Unlike all the other cars which go out to trade they keep all the GT/RS cars they run so they need to find excuses to use them.
There are also things like RS experience days where you get to drive 3 generations of the RS. Unlike all the other cars which go out to trade they keep all the GT/RS cars they run so they need to find excuses to use them.
To paraphrase Samuel Johnson, when a man is tired of the PEC, he is tired of life.
It would take some serious effort to have a negative experience there, on track, mooching around or in the restaurant.
Match up your dates, go with some mates and have a laugh. Even if you are Lewis Hamilton, the kick plate alone can’t fail to put a smile on your face if you go 1mph quicker than you are capable of catching the car... go and stay in a pub in Towcester afterwards and make a trip of it.
It would take some serious effort to have a negative experience there, on track, mooching around or in the restaurant.
Match up your dates, go with some mates and have a laugh. Even if you are Lewis Hamilton, the kick plate alone can’t fail to put a smile on your face if you go 1mph quicker than you are capable of catching the car... go and stay in a pub in Towcester afterwards and make a trip of it.
rob.kellock said:
To paraphrase Samuel Johnson, when a man is tired of the PEC, he is tired of life.
It would take some serious effort to have a negative experience there, on track, mooching around or in the restaurant.
Match up your dates, go with some mates and have a laugh. Even if you are Lewis Hamilton, the kick plate alone can’t fail to put a smile on your face if you go 1mph quicker than you are capable of catching the car... go and stay in a pub in Towcester afterwards and make a trip of it.
Kick plates speed limited and pretty easy to do.It would take some serious effort to have a negative experience there, on track, mooching around or in the restaurant.
Match up your dates, go with some mates and have a laugh. Even if you are Lewis Hamilton, the kick plate alone can’t fail to put a smile on your face if you go 1mph quicker than you are capable of catching the car... go and stay in a pub in Towcester afterwards and make a trip of it.
Last time I went my instructor only option was doing it blindfold at the max speed possible, that’s a tad harder.
But it's not a race school, it’s a demo of the cars electronics, not race training.
I don’t even think their insurance cover esc off on the track section.
Cheib said:
You can trade in your half day against other days they offer....they give you £500 credit. I did a precision day which is a full day of tuition with half a day on the main track. Cost me £249 using my own car. You can rent PEC cars...but then it gets expensive. GT3 is £1200 ish to hire I think.
There are also things like RS experience days where you get to drive 3 generations of the RS. Unlike all the other cars which go out to trade they keep all the GT/RS cars they run so they need to find excuses to use them.
This sounds a bit more interesting, thanks for the heads up. I would much prefer to use my car for something. I will investigate the other options.There are also things like RS experience days where you get to drive 3 generations of the RS. Unlike all the other cars which go out to trade they keep all the GT/RS cars they run so they need to find excuses to use them.
Porsche911R said:
Kick plates speed limited and pretty easy to do.
Last time I went my instructor only option was doing it blindfold at the max speed possible, that’s a tad harder.
But it's not a race school, it’s a demo of the cars electronics, not race training.
I don’t even think their insurance cover esc off on the track section.
When I was there last week one of the things the instructor did was push the speed...they’ve always told me 20 to 22 mph before....another 3 or 4 mph makes a world of difference. Last time I went my instructor only option was doing it blindfold at the max speed possible, that’s a tad harder.
But it's not a race school, it’s a demo of the cars electronics, not race training.
I don’t even think their insurance cover esc off on the track section.
Cheib said:
When I was there last week one of the things the instructor did was push the speed...they’ve always told me 20 to 22 mph before....another 3 or 4 mph makes a world of difference.
there is a max it works at 30/35 mph I think, it's still easy.you can go faster at the side of it and make your own spin, or as I said do it blindfold if you master it.
But it's a slight correction and just be fast, it's a none issue.
you wait, flick the wheel 1/4 turn and then ease it back out. it's harder on cups, but on road tyres it even less wheel movement.
the only time it catches me out is if I pre-empt which way it will go as it does move when you go on it and that can feel like the kick about to happen.
people react too slow, not in reaction time, but in the speed they move the wheel after they react, like miss daisy, that's the issue.
watch Keven E in the RS in the wet you get the idea how fast you need to move the wheel.
https://youtu.be/eED5loSLpgI
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 22 November 08:28
Cheib said:
Porsche911R said:
Kick plates speed limited and pretty easy to do.
Last time I went my instructor only option was doing it blindfold at the max speed possible, that’s a tad harder.
But it's not a race school, it’s a demo of the cars electronics, not race training.
I don’t even think their insurance cover esc off on the track section.
When I was there last week one of the things the instructor did was push the speed...they’ve always told me 20 to 22 mph before....another 3 or 4 mph makes a world of difference. Last time I went my instructor only option was doing it blindfold at the max speed possible, that’s a tad harder.
But it's not a race school, it’s a demo of the cars electronics, not race training.
I don’t even think their insurance cover esc off on the track section.
As you get up to 26mph and above a trick my instructor gave me that made a massive difference - there is a cone right at the end of the tarmac in a dead straight line from the centre of the kick plate, focus your eyes on that and keep them on that cone and automatically correct the slide, made a massive difference caught it every time I couldn't believe it.
bigmowley said:
I have had my invitation to PEC for my Spyder experience for quite a while now and I am struggling to raise any enthusiasm for it. To be honest I find it a bit meh. To put that in context I live on the Isle of Man so its not exactly round the corner. I love driving my cars and have lots of opportunities both here, in the UK and in Europe. Any spare time can be easily filled with a blast out. I also do quite a few track days and events and as an International Cat C race licence holder I don't feel short changed on circuit experience. I have done a couple of PEC half days at Silverstone already and I am not sure there is much left to interest me there. I have also taken some of the family with me but I found that as we were all in different cars it was not much of a shared experience.
Any body else? Or am i missing something?
Are there any other venues that we can access? Europe perhaps?
Mind you the grub is excellent
I've done a few but sold my last one to a chap on here for very little just to stop it expiring. I simply couldn't be bothered, but hopefully he had a good time.Any body else? Or am i missing something?
Are there any other venues that we can access? Europe perhaps?
Mind you the grub is excellent
Geoff39GL said:
When I did it my Instructor said that once you get above 28mph you are going too fast for the kick plate to properly kick the back out.
As you get up to 26mph and above a trick my instructor gave me that made a massive difference - there is a cone right at the end of the tarmac in a dead straight line from the centre of the kick plate, focus your eyes on that and keep them on that cone and automatically correct the slide, made a massive difference caught it every time I couldn't believe it.
yep I did not know what the max speed was, knew it was around 30 ish.As you get up to 26mph and above a trick my instructor gave me that made a massive difference - there is a cone right at the end of the tarmac in a dead straight line from the centre of the kick plate, focus your eyes on that and keep them on that cone and automatically correct the slide, made a massive difference caught it every time I couldn't believe it.
always look where you want to end up :-), as I said it's not the reaction time, it's the speed people move the wheel I think is the main issue.
I see you have mastered it, blindfold for you next time ;-). no cone to look at....
Porsche911R said:
there is a max it works at 30/35 mph I think, it's still easy.
you can go faster at the side of it and make your own spin, or as I said do it blindfold if you master it.
But it's a slight correction and just be fast, it's a none issue.
you wait, flick the wheel 1/4 turn and then ease it back out. it's harder on cups, but on road tyres it even less wheel movement.
the only time it catches me out is if I pre-empt which way it will go as it does move when you go on it and that can feel like the kick about to happen.
people react too slow, not in reaction time, but in the speed they move the wheel after they react, like miss daisy, that's the issue.
you can go faster at the side of it and make your own spin, or as I said do it blindfold if you master it.
But it's a slight correction and just be fast, it's a none issue.
you wait, flick the wheel 1/4 turn and then ease it back out. it's harder on cups, but on road tyres it even less wheel movement.
the only time it catches me out is if I pre-empt which way it will go as it does move when you go on it and that can feel like the kick about to happen.
people react too slow, not in reaction time, but in the speed they move the wheel after they react, like miss daisy, that's the issue.
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 22 November 08:28
I did a couple of laps, I pulled over, the bloke that runs the thing comes over and said - Oi no professionals. I took my helmet off, I said I'm not a professional. He said - you're not a profesional? I said - No, he said - well you should be, if I was you I'd take up Formula One, and if you drive like that you'd probably be the best in the country! I said - I'm not interested I'm making s
t loads out of computers.
Cheib said:
When I was there last week one of the things the instructor did was push the speed...they’ve always told me 20 to 22 mph before....another 3 or 4 mph makes a world of difference.
I normally run it at 25mph which i can catch pretty easily..The trick is to totally relax and don't allow your brain to guess which way its gonna go. If you allow your brain to trick you, it slows down your instinctive reaction speed.I've done the GT experience and reckon it's worth it if you've driven a lot of other cars on these sorts of experiences and/or track days.
Main thing that put a downer on the day was just how badly it rained. Went into the briefing room and the instructor mentioned 'you're lucky, it rained this morning, only spitting now' to come out and it be almost biblical. The GT2 is a bit twitchy in the rain
Main thing that put a downer on the day was just how badly it rained. Went into the briefing room and the instructor mentioned 'you're lucky, it rained this morning, only spitting now' to come out and it be almost biblical. The GT2 is a bit twitchy in the rain
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