Really scary Impreza suspension failure
Discussion
One of my best friends was on his way to work two days ago when all of a sudden something broke on the front of his Impreza at 60mph.
He said it felt like driving on ice - he was over the wrong side of the road, narrowly missed oncoming traffic and somehow avoided the hedge.
It turns out the wishbone snapped clean in half.
This is on a car that recently had an engine rebuild, replacement calipers, struts, ball joints and is serviced religiously every year. The MOT was March this year.
From now on he’s agreed to bring the car to my house once every six months and we will have a beer and very carefully check it on my ramps because like I’ve told him before - you just can’t trust anyone nowadays.
I’m really upset that the spanner men he has been using didn’t spot this - I know March is a while ago but seriously there must have been some signs by that point. The ball joints were done a few weeks ago!
I keep replaying it in my mind and realise just how serious this could have been. Horrible.
He said it felt like driving on ice - he was over the wrong side of the road, narrowly missed oncoming traffic and somehow avoided the hedge.
It turns out the wishbone snapped clean in half.
This is on a car that recently had an engine rebuild, replacement calipers, struts, ball joints and is serviced religiously every year. The MOT was March this year.
From now on he’s agreed to bring the car to my house once every six months and we will have a beer and very carefully check it on my ramps because like I’ve told him before - you just can’t trust anyone nowadays.
I’m really upset that the spanner men he has been using didn’t spot this - I know March is a while ago but seriously there must have been some signs by that point. The ball joints were done a few weeks ago!
I keep replaying it in my mind and realise just how serious this could have been. Horrible.
s m said:
There was a similar thing happened to Cavaliers when they were jacked up on the front arms
Made ‘Watchdog’
Why on earth would you jack a car up on the lower arms? Many models have cast arms - my Shed included - and I would never dream of doing that...?Made ‘Watchdog’
Edited by s m on Tuesday 10th December 22:37
:-/
road_rager said:
There was a recall for this on foresters
That recall included the impreza as well. Recall notice as below:
Recall Notice 1 - LOWER CONTROL ARMS MAY FAIL
Launch Date 15/01/2012
Recalls No. R/2011/146
Models Forester and Impreza
VIN Range -
Build Dates 01/01/2002 - 31/12/2007
Concern
LOWER CONTROL ARMS MAY FAIL
Defect
The front Transverse links (lower Control Arms) may corrode leading to possible breakage if left without treatment.
Remedy
Either additional rust proofing or replacement of the Transverse links will be performed according to the degree of corrosion.
alexmonkey said:
s m said:
There was a similar thing happened to Cavaliers when they were jacked up on the front arms
Made ‘Watchdog’
Why on earth would you jack a car up on the lower arms? Many models have cast arms - my Shed included - and I would never dream of doing that...?Made ‘Watchdog’
Edited by s m on Tuesday 10th December 22:37
:-/
It wouldn’t take as much as you might think to break one like that. A reasonable whack on a kerb, or a big enough pot hole may be enough to do that to a perfectly healthy control arm. The control arms were / are actually ridiculously fragile, on these cars, considering what most folk assume the sorts of conditions / driving cars can take.
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From now on he’s agreed to bring the car to my house once every six months and we will have a beer and very carefully check it on my ramps because like I’ve told him before - you just can’t trust anyone nowadays.
I’m really upset that the spanner men he has been using didn’t spot this - I know March is a while ago but seriously there must have been some signs by that point. The ball joints were done a few weeks ago!
I keep replaying it in my mind and realise just how serious this could have been. Horrible.
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Firstly I agree it must have been quite a shock for your mate to find himself in that situation and it's dam lucky he wasn't travelling faster.
However, I think you maybe being a little hard on the mechanics that have worked on the car. Do you have equipment to test the structural integrity of metal?
You have to accept that the surface metal is likely to have appeared lightly rusted (potentially for few years) & it would be difficult during an MOT/service to assess how deep the rust went or if it has indeed it had penetrated sufficiently to weaken the arm. The likelihood is there has been water ingress causing the arm to rot from the inside out.
It would be useful to know if the part was a genuine Subaru or an aftermarket replacement.
From now on he’s agreed to bring the car to my house once every six months and we will have a beer and very carefully check it on my ramps because like I’ve told him before - you just can’t trust anyone nowadays.
I’m really upset that the spanner men he has been using didn’t spot this - I know March is a while ago but seriously there must have been some signs by that point. The ball joints were done a few weeks ago!
I keep replaying it in my mind and realise just how serious this could have been. Horrible.
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Firstly I agree it must have been quite a shock for your mate to find himself in that situation and it's dam lucky he wasn't travelling faster.
However, I think you maybe being a little hard on the mechanics that have worked on the car. Do you have equipment to test the structural integrity of metal?
You have to accept that the surface metal is likely to have appeared lightly rusted (potentially for few years) & it would be difficult during an MOT/service to assess how deep the rust went or if it has indeed it had penetrated sufficiently to weaken the arm. The likelihood is there has been water ingress causing the arm to rot from the inside out.
It would be useful to know if the part was a genuine Subaru or an aftermarket replacement.
aka_kerrly said:
Firstly I agree it must have been quite a shock for your mate to find himself in that situation and it's dam lucky he wasn't travelling faster.
However, I think you maybe being a little hard on the mechanics that have worked on the car. Do you have equipment to test the structural integrity of metal?
You have to accept that the surface metal is likely to have appeared lightly rusted (potentially for few years) & it would be difficult during an MOT/service to assess how deep the rust went or if it has indeed it had penetrated sufficiently to weaken the arm. The likelihood is there has been water ingress causing the arm to rot from the inside out.
It would be useful to know if the part was a genuine Subaru or an aftermarket replacement.
Since the Subaru ones are known to fail commonly, I’m not sure you’d learn that much However, I think you maybe being a little hard on the mechanics that have worked on the car. Do you have equipment to test the structural integrity of metal?
You have to accept that the surface metal is likely to have appeared lightly rusted (potentially for few years) & it would be difficult during an MOT/service to assess how deep the rust went or if it has indeed it had penetrated sufficiently to weaken the arm. The likelihood is there has been water ingress causing the arm to rot from the inside out.
It would be useful to know if the part was a genuine Subaru or an aftermarket replacement.
I've had a suspension link snap whilst driving (thankfully only at 30mph in London) on my Passat. This was on a straight bit of road, no bumps/pot holes, just all of a sudden gave way, total loss of control as car skidded to a halt. Could've happened 10 minutes prior to that at more than double the speed...
It was on 240k miles, and it was the original VW link, but there wasn't any indication of "impending doom" on it or the other arm, so I think it's a bit unfair to blame a garage for not spotting it. Similar to coil springs snapping, sometimes it happens, with potentially terrible consequences, but thankfully its incredibly rare as these parts are generally significantly over-specced.
It appears Subaru arms are known to fail, in which case replacing every 5-8 years (or whatever) may not be a bad idea, assuming of course the replacements aren't even weaker!
It was on 240k miles, and it was the original VW link, but there wasn't any indication of "impending doom" on it or the other arm, so I think it's a bit unfair to blame a garage for not spotting it. Similar to coil springs snapping, sometimes it happens, with potentially terrible consequences, but thankfully its incredibly rare as these parts are generally significantly over-specced.
It appears Subaru arms are known to fail, in which case replacing every 5-8 years (or whatever) may not be a bad idea, assuming of course the replacements aren't even weaker!
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