The Official Tottenham Hotspur thread [Vol 13]
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His style of football is no longer effective. It really is that simple. We are in a period where pacy fast football is the style. Teams are too well organised to be broken down by being passed / bored to death. The opposition will wait for a poor pass and pounce on you with speed. They might not score every time, but they’ll be back in shape and ready for the next plodding attack within seconds. In time defensive football will come back into being the dominant style, but that is a long, long time away.
There’s a reason managers have shelf lives. Some are defensive minded, some are attacking minded, very few can live through and succeed in both types of football. This is why Allardyce and many other managers who were 10 years ago are no longer around, even relegation threatened teams realise it might save them this season, but it won’t be sustainable survival.
There’s a reason managers have shelf lives. Some are defensive minded, some are attacking minded, very few can live through and succeed in both types of football. This is why Allardyce and many other managers who were 10 years ago are no longer around, even relegation threatened teams realise it might save them this season, but it won’t be sustainable survival.
48k said:
Sadly I think we're stuck with him till he's had at least a summer transfer window and a full season in charge.
Reading back on the comments on here from November 2019 it's interesting because we all said it was going to be a disaster there isn't one pro-Mourinho post from a Spurs fan but the feeling was he'd at least make it to his second season before the football had turned completely to s
te.
This is a squad (barring a couple ) that made it to a CL final so it's not as if the players don't have the ability.
The irony is that when Maureen was a pundit on Sky he was fascinating to listen to and I recall one post match monologue where he talked tactics and transitions of play and you could see Nevil and Souness sat there jaws on the floor so very clearly out of their depth it was funny. Yet put the guy in charge of a football club and he has such a negative effect it's amazing to think it's the same person.
The sooner we get rid of him the better but unfortunately we're stuck with him for a while. And who is going to want the job anyway?
I thought the same when listening to him doing punditry on Sky in between Utd and Spurs jobs. He was fascinating to listen too and he looked so happy and smiling all the time. When I first heard you'd got him I thought "sReading back on the comments on here from November 2019 it's interesting because we all said it was going to be a disaster there isn't one pro-Mourinho post from a Spurs fan but the feeling was he'd at least make it to his second season before the football had turned completely to s
te.This is a squad (barring a couple ) that made it to a CL final so it's not as if the players don't have the ability.
The irony is that when Maureen was a pundit on Sky he was fascinating to listen to and I recall one post match monologue where he talked tactics and transitions of play and you could see Nevil and Souness sat there jaws on the floor so very clearly out of their depth it was funny. Yet put the guy in charge of a football club and he has such a negative effect it's amazing to think it's the same person.
The sooner we get rid of him the better but unfortunately we're stuck with him for a while. And who is going to want the job anyway?
t he's in a good place here and could actually do something with you" but almost immediately he lost all that happiness and became the miserable sod we all know. So odd!48k said:
Nice to see you back posting, Sye. Liverpool must have not been crap this week. 
Weird claim by Adam backed up with no facts 
last 6 defeats 5 games I have posted the day we lost or the day after, the only one not being was the mauling by City the other week (more to do some of our posters not wummers)
I am not like some of your more notorious posters who lose it or get themselves banned all the time
TEKNOPUG said:
He would be effective if had the biggest budget in the league, like Porto, Chelsea, Madrid and Inter.
Or Man Utd?Great timing from Amazon
https://youtu.be/aSprMdZi0k4
unident said:
His style of football is no longer effective. It really is that simple. We are in a period where pacy fast football is the style. Teams are too well organised to be broken down by being passed / bored to death. The opposition will wait for a poor pass and pounce on you with speed. They might not score every time, but they’ll be back in shape and ready for the next plodding attack within seconds. In time defensive football will come back into being the dominant style, but that is a long, long time away.
Agreed, and defending nowadays starts with the attackers, high pressing and pace going forward is what the best and most succesful teams do. Plus it's more about collectivity and performing (defensive) tasks for the team, a traid by the way in which Jose's team's in the past always excelled at.Which also was Jose's main skill IMO, his mindset and man management. He defended his players at all times, he made himself subservient. Since Real it all seems be more and more about himself, about his performance and resume, trowing the players under the bus in the process.
unident said:
There’s a reason managers have shelf lives. Some are defensive minded, some are attacking minded, very few can live through and succeed in both types of football. This is why Allardyce and many other managers who were 10 years ago are no longer around, even relegation threatened teams realise it might save them this season, but it won’t be sustainable survival.
Allardyce by the way is a dinosaur, from the old days of British kick and rush football. Can't compare him with any decent coach of today.Edited by DeltonaS on Friday 10th July 22:54
DeltonaS said:
unident said:
His style of football is no longer effective. It really is that simple. We are in a period where pacy fast football is the style. Teams are too well organised to be broken down by being passed / bored to death. The opposition will wait for a poor pass and pounce on you with speed. They might not score every time, but they’ll be back in shape and ready for the next plodding attack within seconds. In time defensive football will come back into being the dominant style, but that is a long, long time away.
Agree, and defending nowadays starts with the attackers, high pressing and pace going forward is what the best and most succesful teams do. Plus it's more about collectivity and performing (defensive) tasks for team, a traid by the way in which Jose's team's in the past always excelled at.Which was Jose's main skill IMO, his mindset and man management. He defended his players at all times, he made himself subservient. Since Real it seems be more and more about himself, about his performance and resume, trowing the players under the bus.
unident said:
There’s a reason managers have shelf lives. Some are defensive minded, some are attacking minded, very few can live through and succeed in both types of football. This is why Allardyce and many other managers who were 10 years ago are no longer around, even relegation threatened teams realise it might save them this season, but it won’t be sustainable survival.
Allardyce by the way is a dinosaur, from the old days of British kick and rush football. Can't compare him with any decent coach of today.Possession football of the style Jose seems to be favouring, can overcome the high press but you've got to use width to try and "pull the press" around and open up spaces. Jose seems to be getting Spurs to play narrow which is compounding the problem. I've no idea whether he's doing that because he doesn't think he has the personnel, or he has the personnel but doesn't trust in their ability (which I guess amounts to the same thing).
48k said:
It's not the same without Dier is it 
FTFY 
I agree, it is little more than a training session... the lack of commitment in tackles leading to the first goal was pathetic... it's the NLD FFS
Dear God, please let David Luiz have 'one of those days'... though I'll take 1-1 if only to avoid ridicule!
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