RIP Jack Charlton

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dickymint

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24,332 posts

258 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
bad company said:
When I was checking into a hotel in Manchester 10 years ago I noticed Jack also checking In with another receptionist. The following morning when I was checking out Jack was there again doing the same. The hotel charged from memory £10 or £20 for their secure underground car park which I thought was reasonable but Jack thought otherwise. I paid & left Jack still there arguing over the unfair parking charge.

I liked him a lot but thought he was a tight ******.

Edited by bad company on Saturday 11th July 11:30
His meaness was legendery. When he was the Republic of Ireland manager, when in Ireland, if say the bar or restaurant bill came to £50, he'd ask for £40 cash back and do a cheque for £90. He always went up to £90 something, never £100. He'd worked out that below £100, 95% of bar and restaurant owners wouldn't cash the cheque, but put it in a frame on the wall. £100+, they would cash it. All over the Irish Republic, pubs have Jackie Charlton cheques on the wall, always between £90-99, and you know he'd had free food & drinks plus got some cash off the owner!!

Another story involves him berating a player in the dressing room, and telling him he was the worst player in the team. And the player replied "maybe I am, but at least I'm the best player in my family!"

Jackie Charlton was a good player, not a great one. He played in the second tier for a lot of his career, and he certainly wasn't the Virgil van Dyke of his day. But he was a perfect fit for the 66 WC team. One of Sir Alf's talents was to know what would work in the team, and that resulted in not always picking the best players. But ending up with the best team.
Brilliant bow

dickymint

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24,332 posts

258 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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coppernorks said:
Eric Mc said:
The most popular Englishman in Ireland, ever.
well that says not a lot, I thought he always came across as perpetually chewing a wasp.

Mean and cheerless, in stark opposition to his brother.
Welcome to PH have fun!

miroku1

332 posts

107 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Jack had a brother?

PeteinSQ

2,332 posts

210 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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I was fortunate to meet him several times when I was a child (he had a house in a village in the dales where I grew up) and went to a few meals where he was in attendance. I always knew he was a legend and the first time I met him was in awe. He actually came across as very down to earth and a very nice man. His wife was really nice too.

coppernorks

1,919 posts

46 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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dickymint said:
Welcome to PH have fun!
Thanks dicky, that means a lot.

Word is, on this board you're regarded as a bit of a cult, I could have misheard though.

ray von

2,915 posts

252 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Jackie Charlton was a good player, not a great one. He played in the second tier for a lot of his career, and he certainly wasn't the Virgil van Dyke of his da.
Must've played most of his career in the old first division surely?

coppernorks said:
well that says not a lot, I thought he always came across as perpetually chewing a wasp.

Mean and cheerless, in stark opposition to his brother.
Man U fan?

CellarDoor

875 posts

88 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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RIP Big Jack, an honorary Irishman.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,351 posts

150 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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ray von said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Jackie Charlton was a good player, not a great one. He played in the second tier for a lot of his career, and he certainly wasn't the Virgil van Dyke of his da.
Must've played most of his career in the old first division surely?
Actually no. He played only for Leeds, 53-64 in Div 2 and 64-73 in Div 1. So 11 seasons in Div 2, 9 in Div 1.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,351 posts

150 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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miroku1 said:
Jack had a brother?
rofl

mickyh7

2,347 posts

86 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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We traveled South to watch NUFC play a match 10 of us in a hired Transit in the 80's
Stopped off at a Pub on the way home for a Pint.
Sees the Club Coach outside.
My mate goes up to Big Jack.
I'd like to buy you a pint Jack.
Thanks Son, but I'm in a round replies Jack.
No problem replies my Mate, I'll pay for your round.
Jack replies.
22 pints of Carling thanks Son!
We were in stiches.
Jack winked at us, and Bob Haswell, our mate, now gone, bought the whole team, trainers and Jack Charlton a Lager.
Still mentioned when we meet up every year!
True story.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
ray von said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Jackie Charlton was a good player, not a great one. He played in the second tier for a lot of his career, and he certainly wasn't the Virgil van Dyke of his da.
Must've played most of his career in the old first division surely?
Actually no. He played only for Leeds, 53-64 in Div 2 and 64-73 in Div 1. So 11 seasons in Div 2, 9 in Div 1.
not sure your dates are right there 56-60 leeds were in the first div

TwigtheWonderkid

43,351 posts

150 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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citizensm1th said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
ray von said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Jackie Charlton was a good player, not a great one. He played in the second tier for a lot of his career, and he certainly wasn't the Virgil van Dyke of his da.
Must've played most of his career in the old first division surely?
Actually no. He played only for Leeds, 53-64 in Div 2 and 64-73 in Div 1. So 11 seasons in Div 2, 9 in Div 1.
not sure your dates are right there 56-60 leeds were in the first div
So they were!! So 7 seasons in Div 2 and 13 in Div 1. But I did say he played a lot of his career in Div 2, and 7 seasons is a lot.

Magooagain

9,977 posts

170 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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R.I.P Jack.

Tough fella I reckon.
I was lucky enough to bump into him at the BBC. I thanked him for what he had done for Irish Football.

I think I will read his biography again.

ray von

2,915 posts

252 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
citizensm1th said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
ray von said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Jackie Charlton was a good player, not a great one. He played in the second tier for a lot of his career, and he certainly wasn't the Virgil van Dyke of his da.
Must've played most of his career in the old first division surely?
Actually no. He played only for Leeds, 53-64 in Div 2 and 64-73 in Div 1. So 11 seasons in Div 2, 9 in Div 1.
not sure your dates are right there 56-60 leeds were in the first div
So they were!! So 7 seasons in Div 2 and 13 in Div 1. But I did say he played a lot of his career in Div 2, and 7 seasons is a lot.
So actually yes then biggrin

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

81 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Magooagain said:
R.I.P Jack.

Tough fella I reckon.
I was lucky enough to bump into him at the BBC. I thanked him for what he had done for Irish Football.

I think I will read his biography again.
Midwest Radio are playing 'Put 'em under pressure' for him at 12:30 today.

I'll be having a drink for him tonight after work.