Little old Wrexham

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Flip Martian

19,654 posts

190 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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sociopath said:
Not into football at all, but live just outside Wrexham, and very pleased for all the long term supporters.

Mind you the number of people who have "followed them for years" is now about equal to the number who were at the first ever sex pistols gig.
That's people for you. Never understood that phenomenon.

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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Flip Martian said:
sociopath said:
Not into football at all, but live just outside Wrexham, and very pleased for all the long term supporters.

Mind you the number of people who have "followed them for years" is now about equal to the number who were at the first ever sex pistols gig.
That's people for you. Never understood that phenomenon.
If you are from the area, and by that I mean pretty much the whole of North Wales, Most of Mid Wales and the bit of Shropshire north of Shrewsbury it's very likely that you might have followed Wrexham (i.e. checking the results, reading a few articles). You might even have taken a few games in over the years.

For years the attendance at Wrexham has been in the 2-4k mark depending on how well they were doing. The population of Wrexham Borough is 100k and so it stands to reason that the vast majority of people did not go regularly.

I don't understand how anyone who has followed Wrexham religiously is going to begrudge those who have either started going regularly or suddenly taken an interest in Wrexham. What do they want? Barely surviving in the National League? 1 year contracts and continuous player churn? A crumbling relic of a stadium owned by a 3rd Party? Yes it is tough getting tickets now, but in 12 months there will be a new 5500 seater stand, and who knows beyond that.

You know what I am loving. Walking round town and seeing more Wrexham shirts than Premier league clubs. In 10/15 years it will mean the fanbase is strong and there will be a generational flow down. I think it's great and provides a bit of a good news story for a town that hasn't had a lot to cheer about for many decades.

For the record, am from Wrexham, went very occasionally (first game in 78), had season tickets at MUFC for years, have been attending Wrexham regularly for the last 2 years and semi regularly for a few seasons before that.

Antony Moxey

8,062 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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worsy said:
If you are from the area, and by that I mean pretty much the whole of North Wales, Most of Mid Wales and the bit of Shropshire north of Shrewsbury it's very likely that you might have followed Wrexham (i.e. checking the results, reading a few articles). You might even have taken a few games in over the years.

For years the attendance at Wrexham has been in the 2-4k mark depending on how well they were doing. The population of Wrexham Borough is 100k and so it stands to reason that the vast majority of people did not go regularly.

I don't understand how anyone who has followed Wrexham religiously is going to begrudge those who have either started going regularly or suddenly taken an interest in Wrexham. What do they want? Barely surviving in the National League? 1 year contracts and continuous player churn? A crumbling relic of a stadium owned by a 3rd Party? Yes it is tough getting tickets now, but in 12 months there will be a new 5500 seater stand, and who knows beyond that.

You know what I am loving. Walking round town and seeing more Wrexham shirts than Premier league clubs. In 10/15 years it will mean the fanbase is strong and there will be a generational flow down. I think it's great and provides a bit of a good news story for a town that hasn't had a lot to cheer about for many decades.

For the record, am from Wrexham, went very occasionally (first game in 78), had season tickets at MUFC for years, have been attending Wrexham regularly for the last 2 years and semi regularly for a few seasons before that.
So would you be admitting that you’re a glory hunter that shunned his local team for a successful Premier League one, only to then take a real interest in your hometown club when a Hollywood star takes over, promises the world and starts shelling out L1 wages (and above) to try to buy the league?

If they fail again this year, will you jump ship back to MU now that it looks like they’ve finally got a manager who knows what he’s doing for the first time since Ferguson was in charge?

BoRED S2upid

19,692 posts

240 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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worsy said:
If you are from the area, and by that I mean pretty much the whole of North Wales, Most of Mid Wales and the bit of Shropshire north of Shrewsbury it's very likely that you might have followed Wrexham (i.e. checking the results, reading a few articles). You might even have taken a few games in over the years.

For years the attendance at Wrexham has been in the 2-4k mark depending on how well they were doing. The population of Wrexham Borough is 100k and so it stands to reason that the vast majority of people did not go regularly.

I don't understand how anyone who has followed Wrexham religiously is going to begrudge those who have either started going regularly or suddenly taken an interest in Wrexham. What do they want? Barely surviving in the National League? 1 year contracts and continuous player churn? A crumbling relic of a stadium owned by a 3rd Party? Yes it is tough getting tickets now, but in 12 months there will be a new 5500 seater stand, and who knows beyond that.

You know what I am loving. Walking round town and seeing more Wrexham shirts than Premier league clubs. In 10/15 years it will mean the fanbase is strong and there will be a generational flow down. I think it's great and provides a bit of a good news story for a town that hasn't had a lot to cheer about for many decades.

For the record, am from Wrexham, went very occasionally (first game in 78), had season tickets at MUFC for years, have been attending Wrexham regularly for the last 2 years and semi regularly for a few seasons before that.
In a strange way I quite enjoyed staying in the turf until you heard the refs whistle and running onto the kop only missing the first 90 seconds.

Don’t get me wrong I’m enjoying 10,000 at every game and am lucky enough to get to most games.

ajprice

27,469 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th February 2023
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hilly10 said:
Just hoping you Wrexham boys win these two games in hand and keep the pressure on Notts
First part done with a win tonight, 1 point ahead with 1 game in hand now.

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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Antony Moxey said:
worsy said:
If you are from the area, and by that I mean pretty much the whole of North Wales, Most of Mid Wales and the bit of Shropshire north of Shrewsbury it's very likely that you might have followed Wrexham (i.e. checking the results, reading a few articles). You might even have taken a few games in over the years.

For years the attendance at Wrexham has been in the 2-4k mark depending on how well they were doing. The population of Wrexham Borough is 100k and so it stands to reason that the vast majority of people did not go regularly.

I don't understand how anyone who has followed Wrexham religiously is going to begrudge those who have either started going regularly or suddenly taken an interest in Wrexham. What do they want? Barely surviving in the National League? 1 year contracts and continuous player churn? A crumbling relic of a stadium owned by a 3rd Party? Yes it is tough getting tickets now, but in 12 months there will be a new 5500 seater stand, and who knows beyond that.

You know what I am loving. Walking round town and seeing more Wrexham shirts than Premier league clubs. In 10/15 years it will mean the fanbase is strong and there will be a generational flow down. I think it's great and provides a bit of a good news story for a town that hasn't had a lot to cheer about for many decades.

For the record, am from Wrexham, went very occasionally (first game in 78), had season tickets at MUFC for years, have been attending Wrexham regularly for the last 2 years and semi regularly for a few seasons before that.
So would you be admitting that you’re a glory hunter that shunned his local team for a successful Premier League one, only to then take a real interest in your hometown club when a Hollywood star takes over, promises the world and starts shelling out L1 wages (and above) to try to buy the league?

If they fail again this year, will you jump ship back to MU now that it looks like they’ve finally got a manager who knows what he’s doing for the first time since Ferguson was in charge?
Lol - I supported United because everyone was following Liverpool who were the successful team at the time. United will always be my first team. I don't go anymore because the travel was starting to get tiresome and I doubt very much I'll go back. I will still follow United though wink

_dobbo_

14,372 posts

248 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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I struggle with the concept of a local team. Where does it end? If I was born in Reading, but moved aged 4, is my local team Reading? Or where I moved to? But then I moved again. Now my local team would be in the 7th tier of football. Do I have to support them or can I support the premier league team I've supported for 40 years because my Dad did, and his Dad did, and his Dad did?

If my local team got taken over by a big hollywood superstar, am I not allowed to support them because I'm already committed to a premier league team? Glory hunting not an accusation you can make, my team hasn't won anything for a very long time.

BossHogg

6,008 posts

178 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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I don't have that problem, I was born in Liverpool and have supported them man and boy, through thick and thin, moving around the world on military postings, first thing I did was go to the back page on the paper to see how they did (pre internet) I'm only following Wrexham's progress since Ryan and Rob took over out of interest.

_dobbo_

14,372 posts

248 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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I agree, I was responding to the "glory hunter" accusation that got posted. I'm happy that despite being born miles away from North London, my team is Spurs because it was my Dad's team, and his Dad's team, and so on. It's a big old world now and anyone can support whatever they want, and this dated idea of "local" is utterly irrelevant.

If someone is bringing revenue to a team, whether they are from Wrexham, or West Bumfk, USA, why would a "fan" care?

Flip Martian

19,654 posts

190 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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_dobbo_ said:
I agree, I was responding to the "glory hunter" accusation that got posted. I'm happy that despite being born miles away from North London, my team is Spurs because it was my Dad's team, and his Dad's team, and so on. It's a big old world now and anyone can support whatever they want, and this dated idea of "local" is utterly irrelevant.

If someone is bringing revenue to a team, whether they are from Wrexham, or West Bumfk, USA, why would a "fan" care?
Similar thing in music when a band makes it big - some weird superiority complex kicks in from some fans "who were there when they were playing little clubs". People are weird.

worsy

5,804 posts

175 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Bumping this up, because, well top of the league as it stands. Was a cold, miserable afternoon at Cae Raes on Saturday but 3 points gathered from what might have been a tricky fixture very welcome.

bitchstewie

51,188 posts

210 months

Lotus Elan +2

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458 posts

265 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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He played for Wrexham 18 years ago and said it was a springboard for his career, as he played with Darren Ferguson, and Darren's dad watched a few games and the rest is history.

_dobbo_

14,372 posts

248 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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That's quite a signing, when your backup goalie played for England and you're a non league team (for now).

Planning for back to back promotions I reckon!

BoRED S2upid

19,692 posts

240 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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_dobbo_ said:
That's quite a signing, when your backup goalie played for England and you're a non league team (for now).

Planning for back to back promotions I reckon!
It’s more a favour I don’t think he will be involved next year.

Have just signed a midfielder from Middlesbrough again until end of season. More chance of him staying next year than Foster.

Flip Martian

19,654 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Given Foster was quite happy at the start of the season to retire and focus on his media channels (podcasts/YouTube etc) I suspect this is a move which he's hoping will give those a bit of a boost on the back of his time at Wrexham, especially if they're filming another season of the TV show. No doubt he is also happy to pull the gloves back on but I would think this was just as much a business decision as a heart decision.

Natural cynic, me. smile

Flip Martian

19,654 posts

190 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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10 minutes of BF talking about the Wrexham deal. He does say it will offer opportunities for his social media profile as well as having a feel good factor around going back there and also working with Phil Parkinson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJmfbZCVxLk

RammyMP

6,768 posts

153 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Big game today!

Flip Martian

19,654 posts

190 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Thanks for the reminder! Hopefully a bounce back from the result the other day.

Flip Martian

19,654 posts

190 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Humdinger of a game, this one.