The Official Arsenal - 14 x Cup Winners Thread (Vol 5)

[Cheib]

Carl_Manchester said:

The arsenal team that have turned up today is the one we had against man united and then disappeared.

Not sure about that Everton were woeful….especially DA….he offers nothing for them. Atmosphere in the stadium was great despite the disappointment of last week.

Might sound defeatist but Europa League is a better fit for this team…there is no way the club could have gone out and bought enough quality in enough areas to make us competitive in CL. Europa League will allow Tavares, Lakonga etc to play and get experience which is that Saka, ESR and Martinelli benefitted so much from.

Let’s hope they can get the right players in over the summer.

[mylesmcd]

Cheib said:

Carl_Manchester said:

The arsenal team that have turned up today is the one we had against man united and then disappeared.

Not sure about that Everton were woeful….especially DA….he offers nothing for them. Atmosphere in the stadium was great despite the disappointment of last week.

Might sound defeatist but Europa League is a better fit for this team…there is no way the club could have gone out and bought enough quality in enough areas to make us competitive in CL. Europa League will allow Tavares, Lakonga etc to play and get experience which is that Saka, ESR and Martinelli benefitted so much from.

Let’s hope they can get the right players in over the summer.

I am sensing a feeling amongst other Arsenal supporters that EL is a better fit for now as long as the recruitment does not suffer. Which I dont think it will, as Arteta seems to do well assessing the talent!

[Wonderman]

mylesmcd said:

Cheib said:

Carl_Manchester said:

The arsenal team that have turned up today is the one we had against man united and then disappeared.

Not sure about that Everton were woeful….especially DA….he offers nothing for them. Atmosphere in the stadium was great despite the disappointment of last week.

Might sound defeatist but Europa League is a better fit for this team…there is no way the club could have gone out and bought enough quality in enough areas to make us competitive in CL. Europa League will allow Tavares, Lakonga etc to play and get experience which is that Saka, ESR and Martinelli benefitted so much from.

Let’s hope they can get the right players in over the summer.

I am sensing a feeling amongst other Arsenal supporters that EL is a better fit for now as long as the recruitment does not suffer. Which I dont think it will, as Arteta seems to do well assessing the talent!

"With Arsenal finishing six points and three places better off in the table than last season" is that progress or were the other just a bit more st

No, Europa is better than Europa conference or 8th and no europe, of course we'd have take Chumps league for the extra cash and to help recruitment and retention then get pumped first knock out stage- given we couldn't get a point at Brighton, Brentford and Palace... we don't deserve and didn't get Chumps league- Spurs and Toon we were out on our feet through not being able to rotate due to injuries and fire sale. But it's okay Edu says Arsenal did everything they could...

The notice of renewal notice is in with the 4% increase after years of frozen blah blah blah, the ROI has been poor but I guess we are the constant income stream.

Talking of maximising income this little nugget was tucked in on the end of the email, due to the unique way TV screws over fixtures I've used the Exchange service and get less than face value back minus another 10% fk you very much fee and then Arsenal sell at full face value plus booking fee natch, a fag packet calc gives them ~25% profit when sold rather than transferred, for which they charge a transfer fee... Not sure if using this as a proxy to weed out touts which still sell outside the Tube station in front of the Police.

"To build on the fantastic atmosphere this season and to ensure every seat at Emirates Stadium is full, we’re introducing a new approach for next season whereby if a Season Ticket Holder does not utilise their seat for 10 or more fixtures, they will not be offered the opportunity to renew for the 2023/24 season.

A seat will be considered ‘utilised’ for a fixture if a Season Ticket Holder:
• Attends in person
• Uses the Ticket Transfer service to transfer their ticket – provided the recipient attends the fixture
• Posts their ticket on Ticket Exchange (whether the ticket is sold or not) "

[mickk]

That has to be a good idea surely.

[Cupramax]

Ballsy considering the dross we’ve been serving up during large chunks of this season…

[Wonderman]

Transfer "news"
In Gossip
Jesus is undecided, awaiting baby arrival and having a holiday but apparently already said no to Spurs
Tielemans is still on and sounding positive
Mathias Olivera from Getafe (LB apparently and offer in already...)

In Confirmed
Matt Turner- USA goalkeeper
Marquinhos-19yo Brazilian winger (assuming we didn't kill him in the medical) and presume will go out on loan
Auston Trusty-Colorado Rapids defender (presume a Kroenke consultancy fee move)

Staying
Elneny

Coming back (some possibly briefly)
Torreira (Florence being gits https://dailycannon.com/2022/05/torreira-agent-fio... ) so he has a year left on his contract
Bellerin not activating their buy option- wonder if same mugging off as Torreira
Saliba offering a new deal for the Young Player of the Year in France (esp if Gabriel off) but everytime he opens his mouth I hear Wah Wah I wanna stay in France Wah Wah but that might just be me
Maitlan-Niles post Roma loan and no interest in signing him
Folarin Balogun- had a meh loan
Reiss Nelson- had a pretty good loan


Out
Laca
Nketiah
Pepe asap to cover Saka demands
Gabriel to Juve
Leno to park bench
Mari
Runar Alex Runarsson- will be on loan until his contract runs out

Gone
Mavarapops signs for Stuttgart
Gendozzy (still listed as loan on Arse.con)

Other crap
Saka wants a buy out clause

ETA

Useful info from London.Football: Although it misses our new USA signings Goalkeeper

Arsenal first-team players under contract for 2022/23
Goalkeepers: Bernd Leno (2023), Arthur Okonkwo (2024), Alex Runarsson (2024), Aaron Ramsdale (2025)

Defenders: Hector Bellerin (2023), William Saliba (2024), Pablo Mari (2024), Cedric (2024), Rob Holding, (2024), Auston Trusty (2024), Takehiro Tomiuyasu (2025), Gabriel Magalhaes (2025), Nuno Tavares (2025), Kieran Tierney (2026), Benjamin White (2026)

Midfielders: Lucas Torreira (2023), Reiss Nelson (2023), Ainsley Maitland-Niles (2023), Bukayo Saka, (2024), Granit Xhaka (2024), Martin Odegaard (2025), Thomas Partey (2025), Emile Smith Rowe (2026), Albert Sambi Lokonga (2026)

Forwards: Gabriel Martinelli (2024), Nicolas Pepe (2024), Folarin Balogun (2025)

Edited by Wonderman on Tuesday 24th May 08:55

[Cupramax]

Can’t see Gabriel going anywhere unless for stupid money, with Saliba hopefully back we’ll finally have 4 decent centrebacks.

Also to be decided what happens with Hector…

Edited by Cupramax on Monday 23 May 17:58

[Wonderman]

Cupramax said:

Can’t see Gabriel going anywhere unless for stupid money, with Saliba hopefully back we’ll finally have 4 decent centrebacks.

Also to be decided what happens with Hector…

Edited by Cupramax on Monday 23 May 17:58

Yeah he was already on zee list he was in bits playing his last game for his boyhood club and his #2 shirt not yes assigned but I can't see him being part of Arteta plans

Oh and Tierney not in Scotland squad...not exactly a surprise, if he's been even a slight possibility Arteta would have thrown him on to finish him off.

Love Arteta wants so talk to Southgate about use of Saka by England when he mercilessly kept him on repeatedly when he was obviously shattered.

[Deesee]

Cupramax said:

Can’t see Gabriel going anywhere unless for stupid money, with Saliba hopefully back we’ll finally have 4 decent centrebacks.

Also to be decided what happens with Hector…

Edited by Cupramax on Monday 23 May 17:58

Hector has been a great servant, but it’s time to go home, hopefully the club give him a free transfer (with a sell on clause).

[adccl8z]

Wonderman said:

Transfer "news"

Thanks @Wonderman, can you keep this going over the summer

[Wonderman]

adccl8z said:

Wonderman said:

Transfer "news"

Thanks @Wonderman, can you keep this going over the summer

Sure now worries. Not got anything else to do No doubt all our links will end up at Spurs, Toon or Man Utd :lol:

In more about bloody time news "Legendary Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger will reportedly be the next statue at the Emirates Stadium walkway. The 72-year-old has given his approval to a statue being cast in his image around the Emirates walkway."

[RacingPete]

Wonderman said:

Sure now worries. Not got anything else to do No doubt all our links will end up at Spurs, Toon or Man Utd :lol:

In more about bloody time news "Legendary Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger will reportedly be the next statue at the Emirates Stadium walkway. The 72-year-old has given his approval to a statue being cast in his image around the Emirates walkway."

I'm hoping it is him stood on the dugout roof version, hands stretched out wide!

[Radec]

RacingPete said:

Wonderman said:

Sure now worries. Not got anything else to do No doubt all our links will end up at Spurs, Toon or Man Utd :lol:

In more about bloody time news "Legendary Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger will reportedly be the next statue at the Emirates Stadium walkway. The 72-year-old has given his approval to a statue being cast in his image around the Emirates walkway."

I'm hoping it is him stood on the dugout roof version, hands stretched out wide!

I read Wondermans post and that was the exact thought I had and then scrolled further and saw your post.

It's gotta be this pose, even the Utd fans loved it.

[Wonderman]

midfielder Luigi Gaspar who just happens to be the son of Arsenal technical director Edu. Taking to social media, the teenager penned an emotional farewell after three years at the club.

[Wonderman]

According to a report from The Sun, Arsenal boss Mikel Arteta has decided to promote Hale End wonderkids Omari Hutchinson, Miguel Azeez and Charlie Patino to the Gunners’ senior squad for next season.

Um Patino was on the bench and played a couple cup games so already there and being midfielders will I presume be for development in the cups assuming we stay in long enough.

Useful info from London.Football: Although it misses our new USA signing Goalkeeper and Brazilian winger

Arsenal first-team players under contract for 2022/23
Goalkeepers: Bernd Leno (2023), Arthur Okonkwo (2024), Alex Runarsson (2024), Aaron Ramsdale (2025)

Defenders: Hector Bellerin (2023), William Saliba (2024), Pablo Mari (2024), Cedric (2024), Rob Holding, (2024), Auston Trusty (2024), Takehiro Tomiuyasu (2025), Gabriel Magalhaes (2025), Nuno Tavares (2025), Kieran Tierney (2026), Benjamin White (2026)

Midfielders: Lucas Torreira (2023), Reiss Nelson (2023), Ainsley Maitland-Niles (2023), Bukayo Saka, (2024), Granit Xhaka (2024), Martin Odegaard (2025), Thomas Partey (2025), Emile Smith Rowe (2026), Albert Sambi Lokonga (2026)

Forwards: Gabriel Martinelli (2024), Nicolas Pepe (2024), Folarin Balogun (2025)

Edited by Wonderman on Tuesday 24th May 08:56

[mylesmcd]

Pepe out to cover Saka demands?

What does this mean?

[Wonderman]

mylesmcd said:

Pepe out to cover Saka demands?

What does this mean?

We need to sell Pepe for transfer capital and remove his high wages so we can pay Saka more (Laca going will also help on the salary front). Saka (agent) know they have us over a barrel and I imagine the expectation that he will become top salary, especially when we have the likes of part-time Partey on £200k pw. They rumblings of a buy out clause is depressing but expected if we don't invest/ step up to Champs league level he has the skills to play for a team that can do that on a regular basis.

We aren't Toon and there will be an expectation to at least attempt to balance books given the losses.

[mylesmcd]

Wonderman said:

mylesmcd said:

Pepe out to cover Saka demands?

What does this mean?

We need to sell Pepe for transfer capital and remove his high wages so we can pay Saka more (Laca going will also help on the salary front). Saka (agent) know they have us over a barrel and I imagine the expectation that he will become top salary, especially when we have the likes of part-time Partey on 200k pw. They rumblings of a buy out clause is depressing but expected if we don't invest/ step up to Champs league level he has the skills to play for a team that can do that on a regular basis.

We aren't Toon and there will be an expectation to at least attempt to balance books given the losses.

Thank you.

I didnt realise Pepe was on such big money, (140k)!

[Gadgetmac]

Prisoner 24601 said:

Arsenal are perceived as vulnerable and always there for the taking, this counts both on and off the field.

Sorry to take this thread off topic but can you please check out the latest Predictathon thread. Cheers.

[wolfie28]

mylesmcd said:

I didnt realise Pepe was on such big money, (140k)!

Arsenal’s worst ever signing in my opinion when you combine everything together. Club record fee, wages and sporadic (I’m being kind) performances equals a huge disappointment. Hope they get shot of him in the summer.