The Official West Ham United Thread. Vol 3

[coldel]

TCEvo said:

He'll play as we don't have a viable alternative. Wonder what the weather's doing in Manchester

My feeling is no he wont play. From the press conference this morning:

On Michail Antonio...
"He's still fatigued so it'll be a close call whether he makes it or not. We'll need to assess him tomorrow to see if he's able to play or not."

If the day before the game they still unsure and he is fatigued, then its a no go in my book. We have that 18 year old that is pulling up trees in the U23s but I get the feeling tomorrow will be a look at what Moyes deemed a viable alternative to Ant not playing, I honestly think he will just drop Yarmo in there and hope for the best.

[Hammer67]

Soupcheck red card binned.

[TCEvo]

bad company said:

TCEvo said:

He'll play as we don't have a viable alternative. Wonder what the weather's doing in Manchester

Have you ever been to Manchester when the weather’s nice?

Yes, surprisingly a few times (have relatives who live near OT & have gone to a Man U match without a coat in the past); unsurprisingly most of the time I go there it's cold & wet though.

Was rather hoping for some massive freeze/snowstorm/blizzard so that the game's off for a week to enable MA to have a bit more recovery time.

[TCEvo]

Hammer67 said:

Soupcheck red card binned.

Excellent news.

Dean & Mason should both now serve three match bans for their combined fk-wittery. Pair of tossers.

[TCEvo]

coldel said:

TCEvo said:

He'll play as we don't have a viable alternative. Wonder what the weather's doing in Manchester

My feeling is no he wont play. From the press conference this morning:

On Michail Antonio...
"He's still fatigued so it'll be a close call whether he makes it or not. We'll need to assess him tomorrow to see if he's able to play or not."

If the day before the game they still unsure and he is fatigued, then its a no go in my book. We have that 18 year old that is pulling up trees in the U23s but I get the feeling tomorrow will be a look at what Moyes deemed a viable alternative to Ant not playing, I honestly think he will just drop Yarmo in there and hope for the best.

Suspect that you're right.

I thought playing him vs Fulham was the right call as he was due a goal after missing good chances vs Villa & Palace. With hindsight maybe should've played him off the bench w/ Yarma starting (although play best XI etc).

[sjc]

TCEvo said:

Hammer67 said:

Soupcheck red card binned.

Excellent news.

Dean & Mason should both now serve three match bans for their combined fk-wittery. Pair of tossers.

Absolutely,to have looked at it so long and so many times and come up with that decision was just beyond belief.. clench fist my arse ffs.The bloke is about as honest as they come,we haven't hada pen all season and he could have had 2 or 3 himself if he'd gone down
Souness also called it correct yesterday with the Werner penalty,and they all made comments about the Salah pen as well,proud Soucek is one of ours.

[coldel]

The clenched fist issue is a completely nonsense. Mason is basically making up his own rules around what he deems deliberately. So its impossible to deliberately elbow someone with your hand not clenched as a fist then is it Mr Mason? Utter nonsense and rightly overturned. Question is what the association does about having two officials that do not understand the rules of football and their continued participation, at the very least they need to attend a refresher course.

[pincher]

Mike Dean has ‘asked’ not to be given a game this weekend

[Roofless Toothless]

But the reason for his request is concerning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55981926

[BrabusMog]

Roofless Toothless said:

But the reason for his request is concerning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55981926

Even though we have more than our fair share of dinlo fans, I really didn't think a Hammer could be so pathetic to send death threats over a red card that was clearly going to be rescinded

[coldel]

Yeah death threats are just plain moronic.

I wonder if he might try rest Ant and put Benrahma up top? Or maybe revert to the Fredericks on the right experiment like he did against Villa.

[bad company]

BrabusMog said:

Even though we have more than our fair share of dinlo fans, I really didn't think a Hammer could be so pathetic to send death threats over a red card that was clearly going to be rescinded

Wish I could agree with you. Sadly we have our fair share of bone head fans.

[sjc]

bad company said:

BrabusMog said:

Even though we have more than our fair share of dinlo fans, I really didn't think a Hammer could be so pathetic to send death threats over a red card that was clearly going to be rescinded

Wish I could agree with you. Sadly we have our fair share of bone head fans.

Classy guy our Tomas ..

[Blue62]

TCEvo said:

Excellent news.

Dean & Mason should both now serve three match bans for their combined fk-wittery. Pair of tossers.

Sorry to barge in, Evertonian here who is delighted for Moyes and enjoying seeing different teams fighting at the top. I just wanted to comment on the Soucek red card, Dean and Mason reviewed the incident 23 times but their decision gets overturned!

I am sure it will be neatly forgotten now, but there’s something seriously wrong if two officials with time and full review facilities can both come to the wrong decision simultaneously. I know it’s been said many times, but this is perplexing and worrying for the future of the game.

[coldel]

Blue62 said:

Sorry to barge in, Evertonian here who is delighted for Moyes and enjoying seeing different teams fighting at the top. I just wanted to comment on the Soucek red card, Dean and Mason reviewed the incident 23 times but their decision gets overturned!

I am sure it will be neatly forgotten now, but there’s something seriously wrong if two officials with time and full review facilities can both come to the wrong decision simultaneously. I know it’s been said many times, but this is perplexing and worrying for the future of the game.

I couldn’t agree more, it shows they just don’t understand the game and that they cannot apply the laws correctly. In effect they should be sent for the referee equivalent of a speed awareness course to remind them how the rules work and how to apply them

[bad company]

coldel said:

Blue62 said:

Sorry to barge in, Evertonian here who is delighted for Moyes and enjoying seeing different teams fighting at the top. I just wanted to comment on the Soucek red card, Dean and Mason reviewed the incident 23 times but their decision gets overturned!

I am sure it will be neatly forgotten now, but there’s something seriously wrong if two officials with time and full review facilities can both come to the wrong decision simultaneously. I know it’s been said many times, but this is perplexing and worrying for the future of the game.

I couldn’t agree more, it shows they just don’t understand the game and that they cannot apply the laws correctly. In effect they should be sent for the referee equivalent of a speed awareness course to remind them how the rules work and how to apply them

Mrs BC has attended about 10 matches with me and watches on tv. She’s still struggling with the offside rules but she got that decision right straight away. Especially when Gary Lineker explained it on MOTD.

[TCEvo]

Blue62 said:

TCEvo said:

Excellent news.

Dean & Mason should both now serve three match bans for their combined fk-wittery. Pair of tossers.

Sorry to barge in, Evertonian here who is delighted for Moyes and enjoying seeing different teams fighting at the top. I just wanted to comment on the Soucek red card, Dean and Mason reviewed the incident 23 times but their decision gets overturned!

I am sure it will be neatly forgotten now, but there’s something seriously wrong if two officials with time and full review facilities can both come to the wrong decision simultaneously. I know it’s been said many times, but this is perplexing and worrying for the future of the game.

No worries. I wasn't in favour of VAR at the outset & nothing to date's changed my mind - it's even worse sitting in the stadium post-goal/ball in net & wondering if it'll stand, rather than just glancing at the lino to make sure the flag's stayed down.

Your example reiterates my view.

[sjc]

TCEvo said:

Blue62 said:

TCEvo said:

Excellent news.

Dean & Mason should both now serve three match bans for their combined fk-wittery. Pair of tossers.

Sorry to barge in, Evertonian here who is delighted for Moyes and enjoying seeing different teams fighting at the top. I just wanted to comment on the Soucek red card, Dean and Mason reviewed the incident 23 times but their decision gets overturned!

I am sure it will be neatly forgotten now, but there’s something seriously wrong if two officials with time and full review facilities can both come to the wrong decision simultaneously. I know it’s been said many times, but this is perplexing and worrying for the future of the game.

No worries. I wasn't in favour of VAR at the outset & nothing to date's changed my mind - it's even worse sitting in the stadium post-goal/ball in net & wondering if it'll stand, rather than just glancing at the lino to make sure the flag's stayed down.

Your example reiterates my view.

I was in favour, but not now. I thought it would stop diving/ cheating and obvious wrong decisions. What I didn't realise was that it would still be operated by the same muppets in a room that are normally wearing black on the pitch.It needs ex pro's having a look at the incidents, and some bloody common sense.There should also be a time limit after which the original decision stands.
Other than Soucek this weekend, Werner could have caused serious injury to the keep this weekend by deliberately not avoiding him to get the penalty (he had plenty of time to jump out the way), and Salah's yet again was a blatant con, there was no way that was enough to go down, you see far more at corner kicks that are never given.
Totally agree that it's worse at the ground, when we score I don't even get out my seat half the time now as I always think that something will be looked at...it's utterly ruined the game, o certainly the way it's been implemented has.

[RichB]

sjc said:

<clip> Salah's yet again was a blatant con, there was no way that was enough to go down, you see far more at corner kicks that are never given.

Sadly Salah, who is an excellent player, has joined the ranks of Squealish IMO with his 'going to ground easily'. I once admired him as one of the best strikers in the league but now I simply know, that given half a chance, he will cheat...

[TCEvo]

sjc said:

Totally agree that it's worse at the ground, when we score I don't even get out my seat half the time now as I always think that something will be looked at...it's utterly ruined the game, o certainly the way it's been implemented has.

That bit made me think - last "live" WHU goal I saw was scored by Michael Antonio on 29.02.20 in the 3-1 home win vs. S'hampton - Antonio scored in the 54th min (assume it was a VAR friendly one!).