The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 19]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 19]

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NRS

22,079 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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I think Origi is just a different type of striker from what we normally have. Add in the lack of game time and it’s not a surprise he can’t develop much. Jota had the chances to develop elsehwhere, hence the fee. It’s why it’s so hard for youth to develop - ‘top’ teams don’t have the chances to play developing players for the most part. So then the place faces the choice to take a pay cut and try elsewhere lower and prove themself but with the risk they will never earn nearly the same, or just sit around and bank the cash from a top club that sets them up for life and maybe miss their best potential. For Karius it’s very clear he won’t make it elsewhere given the loan periods, so for him it really makes sense to get as much wages from Liverpool as possible.

Pommy

14,229 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Origi is on £60k a week. For another 3 years.

That buys some pretty reasonable alternatives.

Adam.

27,142 posts

253 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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It buys him a lot of Bentleys and Gucci tracksuits too, so he isn’t going anywhere unless someone pays him the same.

He could do well at a lower EPL team maybe

Pommy

14,229 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Adam. said:
It buys him a lot of Bentleys and Gucci tracksuits too, so he isn’t going anywhere unless someone pays him the same.

He could do well at a lower EPL team maybe
Reckon Spain Or Italy where a slow game suits him

NRS

22,079 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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As Adam says, players won't typically drop salary when they have a contract.

And would you? If you had a job contract of that 60k for 3 years, would you honestly go down to say 30k so you could play more? Remember their earning period is short, and if you fail at that 30k job you might basically get nothing going forward after that.

jammy-git

29,776 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Pommy said:
Origi is on £60k a week. For another 3 years.

That buys some pretty reasonable alternatives.
But it won't pay for their salary too.

Pommy

14,229 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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jammy-git said:
Pommy said:
Origi is on £60k a week. For another 3 years.

That buys some pretty reasonable alternatives.
But it won't pay for their salary too.
If he leaves and the wage is off the books it will. That's my point.

type-r

13,918 posts

212 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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The average wage of a Premier League footballer is just over £60,000 a week. So there will be options available to him.

If he can get roughly the same elsewhere, it would make sense to move on. He is approaching his prime, would probably be guaranteed more first team chances elsewhere and a chance to rebuild his international career - which has stalled.

Flip Martian

19,503 posts

189 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Very decent striker when he wants to be. As said he'd probably suit a different team and set up more than us. I just don't understand why he didn't really kick on from the CL season. He scored some vital goals in the PL season but last season never looked bothered or like he was really trying.

jammy-git

29,776 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Maybe he knows he's never going to be a top, top player, probably never going to play at a club as big as Liverpool again. But if he stays, he might just get some more opportunities like Barcelona and the CL final...

WWYD - go and be the main man at a mid-table club and probably hardly ever fight for trophies. Or be backup at a big club and potentially score the winning goal in a final (again)?

NRS

22,079 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Yes. And the question is if we are getting rid of him and he's on the average wage for a PL player, who are we getting in that will be willing to warm the bench for 60k that is a better option than him? The best players won't sign to sit on the bench unless you offer them huge sums.

eyebeebe

2,962 posts

232 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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NRS said:
Yes. And the question is if we are getting rid of him and he's on the average wage for a PL player, who are we getting in that will be willing to warm the bench for 60k that is a better option than him? The best players won't sign to sit on the bench unless you offer them huge sums.
It’s a fair point, but it’s not like he’s coming on and changing matches. Maybe time to take a punt on someone else on “average” wages who can add more (and perhaps look interested).

SydneyBridge

8,500 posts

157 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Just over £3 milliin a year for a bench warmer is insane. I cannot remember when he even started a game.

Flip Martian

19,503 posts

189 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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jammy-git said:
Maybe he knows he's never going to be a top, top player, probably never going to play at a club as big as Liverpool again. But if he stays, he might just get some more opportunities like Barcelona and the CL final...

WWYD - go and be the main man at a mid-table club and probably hardly ever fight for trophies. Or be backup at a big club and potentially score the winning goal in a final (again)?
Nah, I think that time has gone - he was often not even on the bench last season, or when he was he often wasn't used. I would have thought they've had a conversation with him about how much he would be used by now.

Drabbesttunic

1,191 posts

39 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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NRS said:
Remember their earning period is short.
I feel his pain laugh

NRS

22,079 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Drabbesttunic said:
NRS said:
Remember their earning period is short.
I feel his pain laugh
It's nothing to do with that - of course he earns great money. But it's just another job at the end of the day. I don't know why so many people think they should just volunteer to take a big pay cut and save the club some money as a result. I wouldn't do that at my work. I doubt anyone else here would either.

Flip Martian

19,503 posts

189 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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NRS said:
It's nothing to do with that - of course he earns great money. But it's just another job at the end of the day. I don't know why so many people think they should just volunteer to take a big pay cut and save the club some money as a result. I wouldn't do that at my work. I doubt anyone else here would either.
Some players want to play, ultimately. Work their way back into their national team; show they still have something to offer a bigger club further down the line, even. Get another chance to kick start their career and maybe win something further down the line.

There are others, admittedly, who prefer cold hard cash and can't be budged. If Origi is one of those, then that's hardly going to persuade JK to use him.

Pommy

14,229 posts

215 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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NRS said:
Yes. And the question is if we are getting rid of him and he's on the average wage for a PL player, who are we getting in that will be willing to warm the bench for 60k that is a better option than him? The best players won't sign to sit on the bench unless you offer them huge sums.
Well a few decent players we have gotten before have been a 'what, him?!' type Moneyball player so wouldn't begrudge a possible swoop for a few of the lesser known players who have done well in the Euros who it turns out have done well all year for their non-major European league clubs.

After all were not talking best players who are coming in for a starting spot place, after all Origi isn't.


type-r

13,918 posts

212 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Once in a lifetime opp. Hopefully Salah doesn't return to training a bit grumpy:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57576441


Drabbesttunic

1,191 posts

39 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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NRS said:
Drabbesttunic said:
NRS said:
Remember their earning period is short.
I feel his pain laugh
It's nothing to do with that - of course he earns great money. But it's just another job at the end of the day. I don't know why so many people think they should just volunteer to take a big pay cut and save the club some money as a result. I wouldn't do that at my work. I doubt anyone else here would either.
I'm not talking about dropping wages, I agree, why would anyone.
I'm talking about that crap sentence that people band around laugh
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