The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 19]

[Flip Martian]

type-r said:

Apparently Wilson is off.... hopefully it's a permanent deal!

https://mobile.twitter.com/dmlynch/status/14186036...

Excellent news. For him and us. Seemed likely he would never cement a place with us, so best of luck to him. Fulham is probably a decent fit, level wise.

[type-r]

Flip Martian said:

Excellent news. For him and us. Seemed likely he would never cement a place with us, so best of luck to him. Fulham is probably a decent fit, level wise.

Yeah agreed. Glad he's moving on - another fringe player not adding any value to the 1st team squad. £10m the fee apparently.

Is it me or are has there been a slight change in policy this year regarding outgoings? For the past few seasons, Liverpool have been demanding and then holding out for high prices for fringe players, often having to scramble at the last minute to find them a loan deal when clubs refuse to meet the asking price. Covid a factor in get-what-the-hell-you-can policy change?

[Flip Martian]

type-r said:

Yeah agreed. Glad he's moving on - another fringe player not adding any value to the 1st team squad. £10m the fee apparently.

Is it me or are has there been a slight change in policy this year regarding outgoings? For the past few seasons, Liverpool have been demanding and then holding out for high prices for fringe players, often having to scramble at the last minute to find them a loan deal when clubs refuse to meet the asking price. Covid a factor in get-what-the-hell-you-can policy change?

I suspect there is a certain amount of "post covid" realism. Surely Wilson would have gone for more than £10m 18 months ago. I guess they factor in what wages each player is on too (that they're no longer paying, I mean).

[type-r]

Flip Martian said:

I suspect there is a certain amount of "post covid" realism. Surely Wilson would have gone for more than £10m 18 months ago. I guess they factor in what wages each player is on too (that they're no longer paying, I mean).

We turned down £12m for him from Burnley last season, hoping to hold out for £15m. In the end Burnley didn't want to pay that much and we only managed to scramble him a loan to an EFL club after missing the PL deadline.

Lack of matchday revenue and posting a loss last season has a lot to do with it for sure. Oh and the ESL no longer in their financial projections.

[Flip Martian]

BBC reporting the deal is close to £12m. But not done yet.

[ChocolateFrog]

He seems to have been around for years and years without ever really threatening the first team.

He's a good player, definitely PL quality IMO. A permanent move and regular game time is what he needs.

Pre Covid he would have been worth £20m no doubt.

[phil_cardiff]

ChocolateFrog said:

He seems to have been around for years and years without ever really threatening the first team.

He's a good player, definitely PL quality IMO. A permanent move and regular game time is what he needs.

Pre Covid he would have been worth £20m no doubt.

If he's PL quality it's right at the bottom unfortunately.

[Flip Martian]

Move now confirmed. I'm sure with regular game time he'll push on a bit. Good luck to him.

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/438856...

[type-r]

16 years at Liverpool and only 2 first team games to show for it. Good luck to him, his story proves just how tough it is at the very top!

[paulrockliffe]

phil_cardiff said:

If he's PL quality it's right at the bottom unfortunately.

Probably a little higher I'd say. When I've seen him play he's looked good, but not a Klopp player. His ability to score from midfield is top class though.

[ChocolateFrog]

Gini has had a little dig.

Seems to be saying he felt he took the blame when we lost.

I don't remember that personally. He rarely had a bad game.

[Flip Martian]

ChocolateFrog said:

Gini has had a little dig.

Seems to be saying he felt he took the blame when we lost.

I don't remember that personally. He rarely had a bad game.

Plenty of comments on social media sometimes that were having a go at him when we played poorly. Once word was out he hadn't signed yet, the drivel online from some keyboard warriors was aimed at him.

But I suspect he mentioned it in the interview and the published version has made more of it than there was.

[ChocolateFrog]

Flip Martian said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Gini has had a little dig.

Seems to be saying he felt he took the blame when we lost.

I don't remember that personally. He rarely had a bad game.

Plenty of comments on social media sometimes that were having a go at him when we played poorly. Once word was out he hadn't signed yet, the drivel online from some keyboard warriors was aimed at him.

But I suspect he mentioned it in the interview and the published version has made more of it than there was.

Inevitable once it was clear he wasn't going to re-sign I suppose.

[Flip Martian]

ChocolateFrog said:

Inevitable once it was clear he wasn't going to re-sign I suppose.

Given some of the brain dead knuckle draggers that follow football, yup, sadly.

[Flip Martian]

Ultimately though, it seems he was having a little dig at the owners:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jul/24/g...

[phil_cardiff]

paulrockliffe said:

phil_cardiff said:

If he's PL quality it's right at the bottom unfortunately.

Probably a little higher I'd say. When I've seen him play he's looked good, but not a Klopp player. His ability to score from midfield is top class though.

I've watched him live for Wales and Cardiff and will respectfully disagree. Would love to be proved wrong though.

[jammy-git]

Flip Martian said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Gini has had a little dig.

Seems to be saying he felt he took the blame when we lost.

I don't remember that personally. He rarely had a bad game.

Plenty of comments on social media sometimes that were having a go at him when we played poorly. Once word was out he hadn't signed yet, the drivel online from some keyboard warriors was aimed at him.

But I suspect he mentioned it in the interview and the published version has made more of it than there was.

I felt like he had lost a bit of form this past season compared to his previous with us. But then so had most of the rest of the team too! I think for the most part, most of the fanbase always respected Gini and considered him to be one of the more consistently high performers in the team. Always going to get braindead idiots on social media/Twitter though.

[epom]

jammy-git said:

Flip Martian said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Gini has had a little dig.

Seems to be saying he felt he took the blame when we lost.

I don't remember that personally. He rarely had a bad game.

Plenty of comments on social media sometimes that were having a go at him when we played poorly. Once word was out he hadn't signed yet, the drivel online from some keyboard warriors was aimed at him.

But I suspect he mentioned it in the interview and the published version has made more of it than there was.

I felt like he had lost a bit of form this past season compared to his previous with us. But then so had most of the rest of the team too! I think for the most part, most of the fanbase always respected Gini and considered him to be one of the more consistently high performers in the team. Always going to get braindead idiots on social media/Twitter though.

He seriously can’t have such a thin skin ? God help him if he ever played for Real Madrid so.
Somehow I think it was a case of paper not refusing ink, a simple question and all of a sudden made for decent clickbait.

[ChocolateFrog]

Gerrard got one over Ancelotti last night.

Might only have been a friendly but still a great result for them.

[type-r]

Shaq confirms he is looking for a new challenge elsewhere:

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2021/07/xherdan-shaq...

Wouldn't be a huge loss IMO if he does leave but hopefully Minamino can pick up the same weights Shaq uses.