Qatar World Cup. What are your thoughts?
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Thankyou4calling said:
My concern Is that Qatar likely see it as a big family event, everything there is sanitised and controlled.
English football fans dont take kindly to being controlled. It’s tribal. They are loud, boisterous, drinking, essentially taking over an area.
Do that in Qatar and it won’t end well.
I’m not feeling hopeful.
I'm by no means defending the Qatar regime, but I won't have any sympathy towards any English fans who get into trouble while out there. English football fans dont take kindly to being controlled. It’s tribal. They are loud, boisterous, drinking, essentially taking over an area.
Do that in Qatar and it won’t end well.
I’m not feeling hopeful.
Hussein-z3ksd said:
I still have a feeling that it will get postponed and then shifted to another Country - cant see Qatar pulling it off in time.
I think that might be an issue though with its timeslot in the year, and the already serious impact on the European domestic league calendars....Could be moved to South or Central American I suppose......as its unlikely going to be moved to a Northern Hemisphere country or countries.
I think it will happen in Qatar as FIFA have sold the shirt off their back so it will happen regardless.
Zetec-S said:
Thankyou4calling said:
My concern Is that Qatar likely see it as a big family event, everything there is sanitised and controlled.
English football fans dont take kindly to being controlled. It’s tribal. They are loud, boisterous, drinking, essentially taking over an area.
Do that in Qatar and it won’t end well.
I’m not feeling hopeful.
I'm by no means defending the Qatar regime, but I won't have any sympathy towards any English fans who get into trouble while out there. English football fans dont take kindly to being controlled. It’s tribal. They are loud, boisterous, drinking, essentially taking over an area.
Do that in Qatar and it won’t end well.
I’m not feeling hopeful.
Zetec-S said:
popegregory said:
With respect, would you sympathise with someone who took over the Festival of Speed but didn’t believe in engines over two litres or four cylinders, and insist that that’s how it should be?
Eh? 
popegregory said:
What Thankyou4calling said above encapsulates the World Cup. I appreciate you having no sympathy for those who can’t abide another’s customs (especially when they’ve gone there voluntarily) but should Qatar really be taking on something when they so vehemently disagree with the culture behind it?
Yep, totally agree. But Qatar don't really have any morals so they don't have a problem with the double standards. Hussein-z3ksd said:
Tickets go on sale today via the FIFA website - looks like some of the CAT4 tickets are cheap to allow the not so well off locals to attend. Looks like they are trying to redeem themselves a little, but i think they have bigger issues with accomodation.
A couple of months ago Qatar Airways were doing flight/hotel/match packages for Privilege Club members - I think it was around £10k ish for the quarters, semis & final (I can't recall the details now). That didn't strike me at wildly over the top for such an event.Corruption in broad daylight. The thought that the whole football calendar worldwide was disturbed to make it happen knocks me ill.
Slavery, human rights breaches, exploitation and many other disgusting practices have made it possible.
The atmosphere will be dead and games will be played at slow pace due to the heat and humidity.
Slavery, human rights breaches, exploitation and many other disgusting practices have made it possible.
The atmosphere will be dead and games will be played at slow pace due to the heat and humidity.
Ruskie said:
Corruption in broad daylight. The thought that the whole football calendar worldwide was disturbed to make it happen knocks me ill.
Slavery, human rights breaches, exploitation and many other disgusting practices have made it possible.
The atmosphere will be dead and games will be played at slow pace due to the heat and humidity.
I agree with most of your points, but it won’t be that hot or humid in Nov/Dec. The World Cup always seems to be played in hot places anyway, remember places like USA and Mexico, this time will be relatively cool.Slavery, human rights breaches, exploitation and many other disgusting practices have made it possible.
The atmosphere will be dead and games will be played at slow pace due to the heat and humidity.
Mr Pointy said:
A couple of months ago Qatar Airways were doing flight/hotel/match packages for Privilege Club members - I think it was around £10k ish for the quarters, semis & final (I can't recall the details now). That didn't strike me at wildly over the top for such an event.
Not a bad price for an all inclusive (if you can afford it) - especially with the better seats in the house.That being said the Cat 1 ticket prices for the group matches and round of 16 are circa £185 and £215 respectively. Quarters £300+.
if you only wanted to watch a match or two it may not be too expensive to plan it yourself.
Zetec-S said:
I'm by no means defending the Qatar regime, but I won't have any sympathy towards any English fans who get into trouble while out there.
Despite being complete idiots, they're not totally stupid. You'll notice the lack of trouble in Russia. They only surface where they know there's a liberal government and at worst they might be locked up for the night and sent home. dxg said:
It's built on slavery.
So that's a no from me.
I'm interested to see how Nike, Coke, etc. all gloss that over...
Surely it's built on LNG exports.....?So that's a no from me.
I'm interested to see how Nike, Coke, etc. all gloss that over...
How is it "slavery"? I know that H&S is non-existent but people from South Asia are queuing up to work there. It's no different to any of the UK expats working in the UAE. The pay is far better and people are willing to turn a blind eye when it suits....
I’ve quite a few distant relatives working as “Slaves” in Qatar. Wife puts them forward for a job in security or similar, they’re from her village in kenya.
They absolutely lap it up.
Work 6 days a week, live in company supplied dormitory accommodation, meals and uniform all included.
They take home £500 a month. That sounds low but they’ve no bills other than £10 a month for there phone. £400 a month goes back to Kenya. In 3 years they can build a basic house and open a shop. Every job is over subscribed and those that get one are ecstatic.
Certainly no gangmasters or co- ercion and H and S is very strictly enforced. They love a hi viz and car search.
They absolutely lap it up.
Work 6 days a week, live in company supplied dormitory accommodation, meals and uniform all included.
They take home £500 a month. That sounds low but they’ve no bills other than £10 a month for there phone. £400 a month goes back to Kenya. In 3 years they can build a basic house and open a shop. Every job is over subscribed and those that get one are ecstatic.
Certainly no gangmasters or co- ercion and H and S is very strictly enforced. They love a hi viz and car search.
Edited by Thankyou4calling on Saturday 5th February 22:01
Thankyou4calling said:
I’ve quite a few distant relatives working as “Slaves” in Qatar. Wife puts them forward for a job in security or similar, they’re from her village in kenya.
They absolutely lap it up.
Work 6 days a week, live in company supplied dormitory accommodation, meals and uniform all included.
They take home £500 a month. That sounds low but they’ve no bills other than £10 a month for there phone. £400 a month goes back to Kenya. In 3 years they can build a basic house and open a shop. Every job is over subscribed and those that get one are ecstatic.
Certainly no gangmasters or co- ercion and H and S is very strictly enforced. They love a hi viz and car search.
Is there a woosh parrot coming for me? They absolutely lap it up.
Work 6 days a week, live in company supplied dormitory accommodation, meals and uniform all included.
They take home £500 a month. That sounds low but they’ve no bills other than £10 a month for there phone. £400 a month goes back to Kenya. In 3 years they can build a basic house and open a shop. Every job is over subscribed and those that get one are ecstatic.
Certainly no gangmasters or co- ercion and H and S is very strictly enforced. They love a hi viz and car search.
Edited by Thankyou4calling on Saturday 5th February 22:01
£500 per month for working 6 days a week is a good deal?
Accommodation and food provided, but how can anyone live a life spending £90 per month?
I assume the food and accommodation will reflect the wages.
Thankyou4calling said:
I’ve quite a few distant relatives working as “Slaves” in Qatar. They absolutely lap it up. Work 6 days a week, live in company supplied dormitory accommodation, meals and uniform all included.
They take home £500 a month.
Driver101 said:
Is there a woosh parrot coming for me?
£500 per month for working 6 days a week is a good deal?
Accommodation and food provided, but how can anyone live a life spending £90 per month?
I assume the food and accommodation will reflect the wages.
For the migrant workers it’s an extremely good wage compared to what they could earn in their home country £500 per month for working 6 days a week is a good deal?
Accommodation and food provided, but how can anyone live a life spending £90 per month?
I assume the food and accommodation will reflect the wages.
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