The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

The Official Scottish Football Thread (Vol. 2)

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biggbn

22,819 posts

219 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Driver101 said:

He had two huge chances. He has only scored 3 goals this season and 2 have been against teams at the bottom of the league and totally out of form.

Ramsey is going to be the scapegoat. He's never been trusted by Rangers and throwing him into a penalty shootout isn't fair.

The best team won. Congratulations to Eintracht Frankfurt.
Aren't situations like last night exactly WHY they bought him?

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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biggbn said:
Driver101 said:

He had two huge chances. He has only scored 3 goals this season and 2 have been against teams at the bottom of the league and totally out of form.

Ramsey is going to be the scapegoat. He's never been trusted by Rangers and throwing him into a penalty shootout isn't fair.

The best team won. Congratulations to Eintracht Frankfurt.
Aren't situations like last night exactly WHY they bought him?

That would be why they loaned him, but we knew before last night it wasn't working. He hasn't been good enough.

He was brought on right at the end of extra time. He wasn't trusted to play the game. GVB has spoken about him being fit to play in big games, but leaving him out.

It's a bit off putting a player you don't trust on the park to take a penalty when he hasn't adjusted to the game. It was Sakala that came off and probably a case of even less trust in him.


Right after the game this was written. Immediate thoughts to Ramsey. Pressure and blame put on a player who didn't play the game.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61478805

When the WC play off was drawn and Scotland had the potential to play Wales there were comments on here that he was past it. For all his time at Juventus he never managed to complete two consecutive games.



Edited by Driver101 on Thursday 19th May 09:41

DocJock

8,341 posts

239 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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When Roofe and Ramsey were brought on with a couple of minutes to go, 'to take penalties', you just knew one or both would mess up. A definite case of GVB overthinking it.

The game itself was enjoyable enough. The ref was ridiculously lenient on the yellow card front, but then he did try to let the game flow and not award free kicks for contact which was not illegal. Shows what a difficult balancing act it is between too strict and too lenient.

Tomanybikes

987 posts

25 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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DocJock said:
When Roofe and Ramsey were brought on with a couple of minutes to go, 'to take penalties', you just knew one or both would mess up. A definite case of GVB overthinking it.

The game itself was enjoyable enough. The ref was ridiculously lenient on the yellow card front, but then he did try to let the game flow and not award free kicks for contact which was not illegal. Shows what a difficult balancing act it is between too strict and too lenient.
The Lundstum one looked particularly dangerous and the penalty claim should have been looked at by the ref on the monitor imo.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Tomanybikes said:
The Lundstum one looked particularly dangerous and the penalty claim should have been looked at by the ref on the monitor imo.
Look at the size of the cut on his head. The boot was high, it was dangerous and caused a nasty injury. It was a straight red card.

Another example of VAR not doing the job it's supposed to.




JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Carl_Manchester said:
JNW1 said:
Tough way to lose but had the feeling it wasn't to be their night when Kent missed that fantastic chance near the end of extra time....

Two sitters blown right there. Hey Siri: "why do so many professional footballers blast so many shots into the car-park when the goal is so big?"

Heartbreak for Rangers and the fans but not quite good enough to edge it and penalities is always going to be a coin toss.
IMO Kent should have scored with that chance near the end of extra time but to be fair the goalkeeper made a great save; ok, perhaps he shouldn’t have been allowed to get anywhere near it but nine times out of ten Kent makes contact like he did from that distance and it probably goes in.

Tomanybikes

987 posts

25 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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Kent was very poor last night and not for the first time.
Seeing the cut on the players head and posters on here saying Lundsrtum pulled out of the challenge and didn’t even deserve a yellow I give you a rofl

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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JNW1 said:
Carl_Manchester said:
JNW1 said:
Tough way to lose but had the feeling it wasn't to be their night when Kent missed that fantastic chance near the end of extra time....

Two sitters blown right there. Hey Siri: "why do so many professional footballers blast so many shots into the car-park when the goal is so big?"

Heartbreak for Rangers and the fans but not quite good enough to edge it and penalities is always going to be a coin toss.

IMO Kent should have scored with that chance near the end of extra time but to be fair the goalkeeper made a great save; ok, perhaps he shouldn’t have been allowed to get anywhere near it but nine times out of ten Kent makes contact like he did from that distance and it probably goes in.

Others have pointed out that the ball was out of play at the cross. VAR would(or maybe wouldn't have last night) pulled it back. He shouldn't have missed. He played it to the middle of the goal and allowed the goalkeeper to save it.

Kent plays the odd good game and then goes missing for ages. Read the Rangers forums and there is constant threads about this.

An attacking player for Rangers should not be scoring just 3 goals in a season. Two goals in the league against the bottom placed team and both last year. If you're not racking up good stats in the Scottish League then you're not getting a big move.

Celtic signed a 19 year old winger Abada at the start of the season. Playing far less minutes and he's got 15 goals. It brings into perspective how ineffective Kent is.

Edited by Driver101 on Thursday 19th May 13:45

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Thursday 19th May 2022
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DocJock

8,341 posts

239 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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He had a reasonable run at Bristol City. I just hope the board are more patient with him than they were with Maloney because the current squad are in freefall.

At least he will have a whole pre-season with the squad before the season starts.

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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There was quite a few big names linked. I wonder why he stood out as the best man for the job?

DocJock

8,341 posts

239 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Linked and actually considered are two vastly different scenarios.

Being realistic, Hibs are a mid-sized club in a small league. He is about our level, (and at least he's got some experience).

hongkongdonkey

568 posts

141 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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I thought both teams looked nervous on Wednesday and probably neither played as well as they did in previous round but that tends to be the case for finals. I think rangers grew into the game and looked the better of the sides in extra time but over the full game it was probably a fair result. EF embarrassed a few teams on their way to the final but needed penalties to overcome Rangers.

There are lots of positives to take from from the European run, Stewart Robertson spoke about the exposure being over of the major benefits last week and obviously it was huge financial boost that wasn't accounted for at the start of the season. Rangers are now 33rd in UEFA rankings which will help avoid early qualifiers and should see us seeded in draws.

The criticism of Kent is laughable. His performances in Europe have been great,particularly Dortmund and Leipzig, and you can see from the focus on him from opposition that he is rated among managers at least. His defensive work is a massive part of our game and he had a work rate rarely seen from a winger. I thought Bassey was outstanding and probably motm but fear that he will attract some serious attention from other clubs.

It was great to hear the authorities praising the Rangers support this morning for their fantastic behaviour.

hongkongdonkey

568 posts

141 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Kent not good enough laugh

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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hongkongdonkey said:


Kent not good enough laugh
So 3 goals in an entire season, two against the teams rooted to the bottom at the time and one deflection is good enough for an attacking player at Rangers?

The countless threads on the Rangers forums continuously criticising him for going missing aren't valid?

A few good games paper over the cracks.






Edited by Driver101 on Friday 20th May 13:02

hongkongdonkey

568 posts

141 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Driver101 said:
So 3 goals in an entire season, two against the teams rooted to the bottom at the time and one deflection is good enough for an attacking player at Rangers?

The countless threads on the Rangers forums continuously criticising him for going missing aren't valid?

A few good games paper over the cracks.
I'm going to go with the opinion of UEFA's technical observer panel on this occasion thumbup

Driver101

14,376 posts

120 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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I was forgetting it was Sky that have the Premiership playoffs.

ICT v St Johnstone 1st leg tonight. ICT didn't look strong enough against Arbroath, but cup ties can go anyway.

JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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Driver101 said:
JNW1 said:
Carl_Manchester said:
JNW1 said:
Tough way to lose but had the feeling it wasn't to be their night when Kent missed that fantastic chance near the end of extra time....

Two sitters blown right there. Hey Siri: "why do so many professional footballers blast so many shots into the car-park when the goal is so big?"

Heartbreak for Rangers and the fans but not quite good enough to edge it and penalities is always going to be a coin toss.

IMO Kent should have scored with that chance near the end of extra time but to be fair the goalkeeper made a great save; ok, perhaps he shouldn’t have been allowed to get anywhere near it but nine times out of ten Kent makes contact like he did from that distance and it probably goes in.

Others have pointed out that the ball was out of play at the cross. VAR would(or maybe wouldn't have last night) pulled it back. He shouldn't have missed. He played it to the middle of the goal and allowed the goalkeeper to save it.

Kent plays the odd good game and then goes missing for ages. Read the Rangers forums and there is constant threads about this.

An attacking player for Rangers should not be scoring just 3 goals in a season. Two goals in the league against the bottom placed team and both last year. If you're not racking up good stats in the Scottish League then you're not getting a big move.

Celtic signed a 19 year old winger Abada at the start of the season. Playing far less minutes and he's got 15 goals. It brings into perspective how ineffective Kent is.

Edited by Driver101 on Thursday 19th May 13:45
I can't say I've followed Kent's exploits very closely but yes, only three goals in a season in the SPL when you're a forward playing for Rangers doesn't sound great! And I agree form like that is unlikely to get him a move to a decent English Premier League club if ultimately that's where he wants to be.

But having said that I thought he was one of Rangers better players on Wednesday night and, while I agree he should have scored with the chance he had late in extra time, I do think the Frankfurt goalkeeper deserves some credit for a good save - like I say, nine times out of ten Kent makes the contact he did on Wednesday and from that distance the ball probably ends-up in the back of the net.

malks222

1,851 posts

138 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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just had an email from the sfa/ scotland supporters club all men internationals will only be on premier sports- starting with next months nations league games, up until 2024 when they move the other/ new norwegian channel.

I know it’s all about money, but surely this can’t be good for turning the casual scotland supporter away from watching games

abzmike

8,242 posts

105 months

Friday 20th May 2022
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malks222 said:
just had an email from the sfa/ scotland supporters club all men internationals will only be on premier sports- starting with next months nations league games, up until 2024 when they move the other/ new norwegian channel.

I know it’s all about money, but surely this can’t be good for turning the casual scotland supporter away from watching games
Correct - fragmentation of Scottish games (club and country) across 5 platforms - 4 additional to the TV license, is a disgrace. It wouldn’t be put up with in England - their games will be free to air on Channel4.