The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 21]
The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 21]
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Nicetobenice

1,009 posts

5 months

Monday 8th June
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He will have at least 3 goals on every retrospective of the period that is made.

Cheers Divock!

epom

14,627 posts

188 months

Monday 8th June
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Retiring very young, injury ??
Always remember that name with a smile smile

Flip Martian

23,320 posts

217 months

Monday 8th June
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_Rodders_ said:
I feel like some people have short memories.
I think my comments on Darwin were mostly realistic and in the negative? Am I wrong? I loved his enthusiasm but he was never a reliable striker you could depend on.

Flip Martian

23,320 posts

217 months

Monday 8th June
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epom said:
Retiring very young, injury ??
Always remember that name with a smile smile
Probably got other things he wants to do. Never seemed that bothered about footy really and arranged to end his contract in Italy early, last year. 1 of those players who could "do footy" to a high standard but didn't love it enough to stay in it.

Flip Martian

23,320 posts

217 months

Monday 8th June
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Leoni posted this morning a pic from the AXA centre - no hols for him. He's working on being fit and ready for pre season.

CountyLines

5,410 posts

30 months

Monday 8th June
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Flip Martian said:
Leoni posted this morning a pic from the AXA centre - no hols for him. He's working on being fit and ready for pre season.
Was pleased to see that.

SWoll

22,484 posts

285 months

Monday 8th June
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Flip Martian said:
epom said:
Retiring very young, injury ??
Always remember that name with a smile smile
Probably got other things he wants to do. Never seemed that bothered about footy really and arranged to end his contract in Italy early, last year. 1 of those players who could "do footy" to a high standard but didn't love it enough to stay in it.
Hasn't played a minute since leaving us in summer 24 due to visa and fitness issues.

Flip Martian said:
_Rodders_ said:
I feel like some people have short memories.
I think my comments on Darwin were mostly realistic and in the negative? Am I wrong? I loved his enthusiasm but he was never a reliable striker you could depend on.
We now have Isak and Hugo so he's not going to be first choice long term. If you can come up with another striker with 33 G/A in a PL season, who can also play wide and is currently available on a free I'm all ears. smile

Would be a risk worth taking IMHO, we've got so much business to do this summer it's untrue.

MissChief

7,909 posts

195 months

Monday 8th June
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type-r said:
SWoll said:
Reading that there may be a chance of a Darwin return.

Free agent, Ekitike out for at least 6 months, new manager who demands a high press and 100% commitment and likes a bit of organized chaos. With the amount of players we need this summer I've heard worse ideas, he did manage 18 goals and 15 assists in his last season under Klopp.

Thoughts?
Why not? Put him on a short term deal (1yr?) with the carrot of a longer deal if he does well, play him on the left in what IMO was his best position and add the pace and physical strength back we lacked last year. No brainer for me. Will be keeping an eye on him at the WC.

He never got the due credit for those 18 goals and 15 assists.
Ngumoha prefers LW but can play RW so stick him there, alternate Gakpo and Nunez, because lord knows Cody needs some competition and won’t be automatic first choice now. He performed better when Nunez was in the team, pushing him for his spot.

Nicetobenice

1,009 posts

5 months

Monday 8th June
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I thought he'd played for AC Milan and Forest?

Flip Martian

23,320 posts

217 months

Monday 8th June
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SWoll said:
We now have Isak and Hugo so he's not going to be first choice long term. If you can come up with another striker with 33 G/A in a PL season, who can also play wide and is currently available on a free I'm all ears. smile

Would be a risk worth taking IMHO, we've got so much business to do this summer it's untrue.
As I said, my heart would have him back, if Iraola could get a tune out of him.

However, Iraola isn't an "arm around the shoulder" coach apparently, which Darwin seems to need. And more importantly, there's not even a hint anywhere that LFC are interested.

SWoll

22,484 posts

285 months

Monday 8th June
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Flip Martian said:
As I said, my heart would have him back, if Iraola could get a tune out of him.

However, Iraola isn't an "arm around the shoulder" coach apparently, which Darwin seems to need. And more importantly, there's not even a hint anywhere that LFC are interested.
Not suggesting there is, just that perhaps there should be.

Not sure he needs an arm around the shoulder as much as the right coaching and style of football. That last season under Klopp looked like a turning point with 33 G/A but he then went backwards once Slot arrived.

As a rotation player who'll run himself into the ground and make things happen I think there could be a real opportunity there even when taking away the emotion from the decision.

And for anyone whoa not seen it on the LFC website



Edited by SWoll on Monday 8th June 18:37

Flip Martian

23,320 posts

217 months

Monday 8th June
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Saw the Iraola vid yesterday - another YT'er ripped it off as it was behind a paywall until today. I came away from that enthused about Iraola and his outlook.

Apparently in the Brendan days we tried to sign him but he opted to stay where he was in Spain. He was 31 then.

SWoll

22,484 posts

285 months

Monday 8th June
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smile

Flip Martian

23,320 posts

217 months

Monday 8th June
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SWoll said:


smile
So that's 2 of you then. wink

Unless that's you, of course. laugh

In an ideal world. Darwin would come back and score 25 goals next season. At the same time I'm thinking "I hope Chelsea get him because that's them out of the CL race straight away".

SWoll

22,484 posts

285 months

Monday 8th June
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Flip Martian said:
So that's 2 of you then. wink

Unless that's you, of course. laugh

In an ideal world. Darwin would come back and score 25 goals next season. At the same time I'm thinking "I hope Chelsea get him because that's them out of the CL race straight away".
You're living in a bubble if you think I'm in the minority on this one from a fan perspective Flip.

I don't for a minute expect it to happen BTW. smile

Flip Martian

23,320 posts

217 months

Monday 8th June
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SWoll said:
You're living in a bubble if you think I'm in the minority on this one from a fan perspective Flip.

I don't for a minute expect it to happen BTW. smile
No bubbles I'm aware of. I have actually said (several times now) I would love him to come back, if it could work. As a player I liked him a lot, just that he could never be relied on to finish. And Slot clearly gave up on him - as a confidence player, that did him no favours either, so him wanting to go made sense. Going to Saudi was daft, although not for his bank balance.

cerb4.5lee

43,386 posts

207 months

Tuesday 9th June
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I wouldn't be keen on seeing Darwin coming back, because I find watching players like him too frustrating, because I find players with no end product just too annoying, and I was the same with Sterling as well.

SWoll

22,484 posts

285 months

Tuesday 9th June
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cerb4.5lee said:
I wouldn't be keen on seeing Darwin coming back, because I find watching players like him too frustrating, because I find players with no end product just too annoying, and I was the same with Sterling as well.
Other than Salah his 23/24 season was the most productive we've had from an attacker in quite some time.

As a free transfer and rotation option across multiple positions or late sub I'd suggest he would be far less frustrating than when he was the main man with a £65m prIce tag hanging around his neck.

With our current requirement for players all over the pitch and Hugo out for another 6 months it just looks like it could be a bit of smart business to me.

TrevorHill

1,034 posts

18 months

Tuesday 9th June
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SWoll said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I wouldn't be keen on seeing Darwin coming back, because I find watching players like him too frustrating, because I find players with no end product just too annoying, and I was the same with Sterling as well.
Other than Salah his 23/24 season was the most productive we've had from an attacker in quite some time.

As a free transfer and rotation option across multiple positions or late sub I'd suggest he would be far less frustrating than when he was the main man with a £65m prIce tag hanging around his neck.

With our current requirement for players all over the pitch and Hugo out for another 6 months it just looks like it could be a bit of smart business to me.
As frustrating as he was, I’d like to see him return to Anfield. He scored a couple of late goals at Brentford when we were struggling and he always gave 100%. Sometimes I think he tried too hard and the price tag may have been an issue for him.

CountyLines

5,410 posts

30 months

Tuesday 9th June
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SWoll said:
Other than Salah his 23/24 season was the most productive we've had from an attacker in quite some time.

As a free transfer and rotation option across multiple positions or late sub I'd suggest he would be far less frustrating than when he was the main man with a £65m prIce tag hanging around his neck.

With our current requirement for players all over the pitch and Hugo out for another 6 months it just looks like it could be a bit of smart business to me.
Getting him in to replace Chiesa who's nailed on to leave it seems, makes all kinds of sense.

As much as I love Chiesa, Darwin would offer more, as a starter or impact sub.