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epom said:
Retiring very young, injury ??
Always remember that name with a smile
Probably got other things he wants to do. Never seemed that bothered about footy really and arranged to end his contract in Italy early, last year. 1 of those players who could "do footy" to a high standard but didn't love it enough to stay in it.Always remember that name with a smile

Flip Martian said:
epom said:
Retiring very young, injury ??
Always remember that name with a smile
Probably got other things he wants to do. Never seemed that bothered about footy really and arranged to end his contract in Italy early, last year. 1 of those players who could "do footy" to a high standard but didn't love it enough to stay in it.Always remember that name with a smile

Flip Martian said:
_Rodders_ said:
I feel like some people have short memories.
I think my comments on Darwin were mostly realistic and in the negative? Am I wrong? I loved his enthusiasm but he was never a reliable striker you could depend on.
Would be a risk worth taking IMHO, we've got so much business to do this summer it's untrue.
type-r said:
SWoll said:
Reading that there may be a chance of a Darwin return.
Free agent, Ekitike out for at least 6 months, new manager who demands a high press and 100% commitment and likes a bit of organized chaos. With the amount of players we need this summer I've heard worse ideas, he did manage 18 goals and 15 assists in his last season under Klopp.
Thoughts?
Why not? Put him on a short term deal (1yr?) with the carrot of a longer deal if he does well, play him on the left in what IMO was his best position and add the pace and physical strength back we lacked last year. No brainer for me. Will be keeping an eye on him at the WC.Free agent, Ekitike out for at least 6 months, new manager who demands a high press and 100% commitment and likes a bit of organized chaos. With the amount of players we need this summer I've heard worse ideas, he did manage 18 goals and 15 assists in his last season under Klopp.
Thoughts?
He never got the due credit for those 18 goals and 15 assists.
SWoll said:
We now have Isak and Hugo so he's not going to be first choice long term. If you can come up with another striker with 33 G/A in a PL season, who can also play wide and is currently available on a free I'm all ears. 
Would be a risk worth taking IMHO, we've got so much business to do this summer it's untrue.
As I said, my heart would have him back, if Iraola could get a tune out of him. 
Would be a risk worth taking IMHO, we've got so much business to do this summer it's untrue.
However, Iraola isn't an "arm around the shoulder" coach apparently, which Darwin seems to need. And more importantly, there's not even a hint anywhere that LFC are interested.
Flip Martian said:
As I said, my heart would have him back, if Iraola could get a tune out of him.
However, Iraola isn't an "arm around the shoulder" coach apparently, which Darwin seems to need. And more importantly, there's not even a hint anywhere that LFC are interested.
Not suggesting there is, just that perhaps there should be.However, Iraola isn't an "arm around the shoulder" coach apparently, which Darwin seems to need. And more importantly, there's not even a hint anywhere that LFC are interested.
Not sure he needs an arm around the shoulder as much as the right coaching and style of football. That last season under Klopp looked like a turning point with 33 G/A but he then went backwards once Slot arrived.
As a rotation player who'll run himself into the ground and make things happen I think there could be a real opportunity there even when taking away the emotion from the decision.
And for anyone whoa not seen it on the LFC website
Edited by SWoll on Monday 8th June 18:37
Flip Martian said:
So that's 2 of you then. 
Unless that's you, of course.
In an ideal world. Darwin would come back and score 25 goals next season. At the same time I'm thinking "I hope Chelsea get him because that's them out of the CL race straight away".
You're living in a bubble if you think I'm in the minority on this one from a fan perspective Flip. 
Unless that's you, of course.

In an ideal world. Darwin would come back and score 25 goals next season. At the same time I'm thinking "I hope Chelsea get him because that's them out of the CL race straight away".
I don't for a minute expect it to happen BTW.

SWoll said:
You're living in a bubble if you think I'm in the minority on this one from a fan perspective Flip.
I don't for a minute expect it to happen BTW.
No bubbles I'm aware of. I have actually said (several times now) I would love him to come back, if it could work. As a player I liked him a lot, just that he could never be relied on to finish. And Slot clearly gave up on him - as a confidence player, that did him no favours either, so him wanting to go made sense. Going to Saudi was daft, although not for his bank balance.I don't for a minute expect it to happen BTW.

cerb4.5lee said:
I wouldn't be keen on seeing Darwin coming back, because I find watching players like him too frustrating, because I find players with no end product just too annoying, and I was the same with Sterling as well.
Other than Salah his 23/24 season was the most productive we've had from an attacker in quite some time.As a free transfer and rotation option across multiple positions or late sub I'd suggest he would be far less frustrating than when he was the main man with a £65m prIce tag hanging around his neck.
With our current requirement for players all over the pitch and Hugo out for another 6 months it just looks like it could be a bit of smart business to me.
SWoll said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I wouldn't be keen on seeing Darwin coming back, because I find watching players like him too frustrating, because I find players with no end product just too annoying, and I was the same with Sterling as well.
Other than Salah his 23/24 season was the most productive we've had from an attacker in quite some time.As a free transfer and rotation option across multiple positions or late sub I'd suggest he would be far less frustrating than when he was the main man with a £65m prIce tag hanging around his neck.
With our current requirement for players all over the pitch and Hugo out for another 6 months it just looks like it could be a bit of smart business to me.
SWoll said:
Other than Salah his 23/24 season was the most productive we've had from an attacker in quite some time.
As a free transfer and rotation option across multiple positions or late sub I'd suggest he would be far less frustrating than when he was the main man with a £65m prIce tag hanging around his neck.
With our current requirement for players all over the pitch and Hugo out for another 6 months it just looks like it could be a bit of smart business to me.
Getting him in to replace Chiesa who's nailed on to leave it seems, makes all kinds of sense.As a free transfer and rotation option across multiple positions or late sub I'd suggest he would be far less frustrating than when he was the main man with a £65m prIce tag hanging around his neck.
With our current requirement for players all over the pitch and Hugo out for another 6 months it just looks like it could be a bit of smart business to me.
As much as I love Chiesa, Darwin would offer more, as a starter or impact sub.
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