The end of an era

The end of an era

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Hol

8,360 posts

199 months

Friday 29th September 2017
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PomBstard said:
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Can't see another Subaru on the cards. Probably a Gen F HSV Clubsport wagon - up to 2014 it's 340kW/455bhp engine was available with a 6-sp manual box. Otherwise, if I think I can cope with a saloon, then an HSV GTS would be nice...
I bought an Audi S4 in 2014, which ticked the AWD, Petrol, Forced Induction, Family Saloon boxes, but I never really got on with the flappy paddle gearbox. It did look like a Taxi though, which made it easier to park anywhere.

In hindsight, I should have bought one of the last manual ones (MY2012) and hand it mapped to the 400 plus bhp they seem to achieve fairly easily.

I did look at the old manual RS4, but they seemed to have a few too many problems.




tonyb1968

1,156 posts

145 months

Saturday 30th September 2017
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I replaced my MY03 Spec C limited with a Peugeot RCZ R, I usually run 2 cars anyway so the Spec C was a weekend toy as is the RCZ R.
It was a seriously hard choice to make and not one that I have regretted, to start with, the R is excellent in the wet (and dry), its actually more capable than the Spec C but lacks a little bit of the steering feel and 400cc's (and about 46bhp), but its more comfy, has lots of toys as standard like xenon's, climate, sat nav, HUGE 380mm Alcon brakes (which are far more responsive than the brembo's were but a little more expensive to replace...).
Performance is on par with the Spec C (if not a little better), its slightly laggier and needs to be worked a little harder than the EJ20 though (it does like to be revved and has no problems doing so wink )

The Pug also saves me a fortune in V power (it will run 95 ron but she's been run on V power since 4 miles on the clock), servicing is cheaper, I can sit at 90mph on the motorway (Autobahn) and still push nearly 40mpg redface the Spec C averaged about 27-28mpg at 75mph and I had to plan fuel stops every 100ish miles!

I do miss the fact that the Spec C was just an awesome bit of kit out of the box and had more tuning potential than the RCZ R, though the R really doesn't need to be tuned as its a great A-B car smile

A DB9 would be a choice if you wanted a nice V8, but the servicing can be pretty brutal, even worse than going for a cambelt change at a Subaru main dealers redface

rovermorris999

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5,195 posts

188 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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The final edition WRX STI has finally been announced. https://www.subaru.co.uk/performance/wrx-sti

That's that then. I wonder how long ICE-only performance cars with a manual box will be produced?

Toltec

7,159 posts

222 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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"18-inch discs and 6-piston calipers, with 18 inch/2-caliper pairs at the rear"

Bloody hell, how are they fitting 18" discs under 19" wheels?


rovermorris999

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5,195 posts

188 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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I think that's a typo. I've seen reviews on YouTube of the 2018 car and IIRC they're 13'' discs on the front.

Toltec

7,159 posts

222 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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I did wonder if they meant discs/calipers designed to fit under an 18" wheel.

tonyb1968

1,156 posts

145 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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If they are going 18 inch on the wheels then I would have expected them to up the size of the brake disc from 330mm to 355mm, but if they are sticking to 330 (13 inch) instead of 355 (14 inch) and just adding 6 pots... hmmmm, seems a waste to me (note my 380mm standard discs and 4 pot Alcons are standard on my measly 1.6ltr car wink but they are not cheap to replace).

Could this be Subaru doing things by half again??

rovermorris999

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5,195 posts

188 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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The wheels are 19'' magnesium alloy, no brochure so I'm not sure on the disc size.

I've just had a phone call from the dealer to confirm my car. It's a good job I put a deposit down as apparently they're all sold already.

Edited to add: just looked up the brake sizes: 13.4'' front, 12.8'' rear.

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rovermorris999

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5,195 posts

188 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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andymac

112 posts

282 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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rovermorris999 said:
The wheels are 19'' magnesium alloy, no brochure so I'm not sure on the disc size.

I've just had a phone call from the dealer to confirm my car. It's a good job I put a deposit down as apparently they're all sold already.

Edited to add: just looked up the brake sizes: 13.4'' front, 12.8'' rear.

Edited by rovermorris999 on Wednesday 1st November 15:52
Not sure they sold out yet as I ordered mine today but for sure won't be long

rovermorris999

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5,195 posts

188 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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andymac said:
Not sure they sold out yet as I ordered mine today but for sure won't be long
As mentioned in the main thread, maybe they are in batches and it's the first batch that are sold.

McCrae1971

89 posts

230 months

Friday 3rd November 2017
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Not all sold as in the dealership at the moment who is trying to sell their allocation to me. Better not say which though as haven’t decided.

The_Immortal

14 posts

86 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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tonyb1968 said:
If they are going 18 inch on the wheels then I would have expected them to up the size of the brake disc from 330mm to 355mm, but if they are sticking to 330 (13 inch) instead of 355 (14 inch) and just adding 6 pots... hmmmm, seems a waste to me (note my 380mm standard discs and 4 pot Alcons are standard on my measly 1.6ltr car wink but they are not cheap to replace).

Could this be Subaru doing things by half again??
I'm sure cost is part of the equation too but maybe they did some rotational inertia calculations and decided going any larger wasn't worth it?

rovermorris999

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5,195 posts

188 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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According to my local dealer they're now all sold.

tonyb1968

1,156 posts

145 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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The_Immortal said:
tonyb1968 said:
If they are going 18 inch on the wheels then I would have expected them to up the size of the brake disc from 330mm to 355mm, but if they are sticking to 330 (13 inch) instead of 355 (14 inch) and just adding 6 pots... hmmmm, seems a waste to me (note my 380mm standard discs and 4 pot Alcons are standard on my measly 1.6ltr car wink but they are not cheap to replace).

Could this be Subaru doing things by half again??
I'm sure cost is part of the equation too but maybe they did some rotational inertia calculations and decided going any larger wasn't worth it?
I was just thinking that the brakes on the RA-R were like 355 or 356mm with 6 pot front and 4 pot rears, if that worked well then why only 340mm? (Though Subaru did charge silly money for standard 330mm brembos so god knows how much they would want for larger discs).

The_Immortal

14 posts

86 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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tonyb1968 said:
I was just thinking that the brakes on the RA-R were like 355 or 356mm with 6 pot front and 4 pot rears, if that worked well then why only 340mm? (Though Subaru did charge silly money for standard 330mm brembos so god knows how much they would want for larger discs).
Fair point.

Pee-Jay

3 posts

76 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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I'm aware that all 150 run out models are now 'spoken for', I missed the boat while I was overseas, I'm keen to get one as the first keeper so would be grateful of a heads up on any cancelled orders etc, colour isn't important. Regards.

rovermorris999

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5,195 posts

188 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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I believe Ian Grieve Subaru in Falkirk may have one.

M1C

1,832 posts

110 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Hi all, just to advise, we've had a cancelled order we now have 1 white and 1 blue available. Direct message me if interested.

Bigrig79

11 posts

76 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Took Delivery of my Final Edition yesterday, I've not had a WRX STI before so difficult to compare, but definitely raised a few smiles in the last 24 hours, so i'd say it was a good purchase.