Peruvian rock cutting juice

Peruvian rock cutting juice

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Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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Ali G said:
Ayahuasca said:
And some of the best food in the world!
Guinea pig pizza..

Alpacca and chips ..

Not forgeting Inca Cola - lovely yellow colour - and given how they like their 'tea' who knows what its got in it biglaugh
The best ceviche you can buy, some of the best Japanese fusion cuisine (Nobu trained in Lima) and the best seafood anywhere.

Only the Sierra indians and tourists eat Guinea Pig (although I quite like it). Inca Cola is great too!

Elderly

3,493 posts

238 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Back to 'Peruvian Rock Curtting Juice' ........ Pisco Sour(s) YUM!!!!!!!!

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Elderly said:
Back to 'Peruvian Rock Curtting Juice' ........ Pisco Sour(s) YUM!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if a good Pisco Sour could dissolve granite.

Elderly

3,493 posts

238 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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I never discovered whether my headaches were from altitude or Pisco Sours ......

..... and Mate didn't work for me biggrin.

Ali G

3,526 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Cusqueña Cerveza Negra beerlick

Ali G

3,526 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
The best ceviche you can buy, some of the best Japanese fusion cuisine (Nobu trained in Lima) and the best seafood anywhere.

Only the Sierra indians and tourists eat Guinea Pig (although I quite like it). Inca Cola is great too!
Alpaca is low in fat with very low cholestorol..

http://www.snowmassalpacas.com/alpaca-info/alpaca-...

Enjoy with chips for a healthy meal!

We should be farming them here (also much cuter than sheep - and the wool's not bad either!)

Engineer1

10,486 posts

209 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Halb said:
Use Psychology said:
Ali G said:
Elderly said:
I'm not demigrating what the Incas did but don't forget that M.P. was probably built around the middle of the 15th century, whilst some of Europe's much more sophisticated Cathedrals were built some 250 years before that time.
Totally agree with this - many of the cathedrals were built pre MP and are much more sophisticated.

However, the Incas were only around for a relatively short time (150 years?)
the technology available to the Incas was way more primitive than that available to medieval europeans...
I also think the fact it is 2450 metres above sea level puts it ahead.biggrin
The biggest thing is their technology was different, can we make rock cuts that accurate? Can we come up with a convincing explanation of how it was done? The answer seems to be no to both.

Technology moves on and some methods of doing things go out of fashion or get forgotten, the move from bows and arrows to using firearms is an example a good archer was better than a musketeer but the archer needed decades of practice, the musketeer needed a quick lesson and a musket. So the way the Incas did it could be simple but take loads of labour or it could be a complex skill that went out of favour when the requirement for tightly packed but randomly shaped stones waned.

Ali G

3,526 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Engineer1 said:
The biggest thing is their technology was different, can we make rock cuts that accurate? Can we come up with a convincing explanation of how it was done? The answer seems to be no to both.

Technology moves on and some methods of doing things go out of fashion or get forgotten, the move from bows and arrows to using firearms is an example a good archer was better than a musketeer but the archer needed decades of practice, the musketeer needed a quick lesson and a musket. So the way the Incas did it could be simple but take loads of labour or it could be a complex skill that went out of favour when the requirement for tightly packed but randomly shaped stones waned.
I seem to remember that there was some speculation that a form of a 'pantograph' may have been used to outline the shape of one rock onto another.

The rest of the process would necessarily have been labour intensive!

However, there 'should' have been plenty of able bodied lads and lasses about (as per building the pyramids) since there was an abundance of fish from the sea, and they had also mastered cultivation of crops - so no need to go out all day scavenging!

No lasers require, and certainly no little green men.

There have been geniuses for the entire history of mankind - no reason why the Incas should not have had their fare share!

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Ali G said:
Ayahuasca said:
The best ceviche you can buy, some of the best Japanese fusion cuisine (Nobu trained in Lima) and the best seafood anywhere.

Only the Sierra indians and tourists eat Guinea Pig (although I quite like it). Inca Cola is great too!
Alpaca is low in fat with very low cholestorol..

http://www.snowmassalpacas.com/alpaca-info/alpaca-...

Enjoy with chips for a healthy meal!

We should be farming them here (also much cuter than sheep - and the wool's not bad either!)
Alpaca is not commonly farmed for food - it is kept for its wool. The Incas would execute anyone who killed an alpaca or a vicuna without permission.

Ali G

3,526 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
Alpaca is not commonly farmed for food - it is kept for its wool. The Incas would execute anyone who killed an alpaca or a vicuna without permission.
The Incas may well have done - they also did quite a bit of 'human sacrificing' - so maybe not the best of judges. wink

Vicuna are, I think, rare if not endangered.

Alpaca, I'm pretty sure, could be farmed in this country (the weather's bad enough!) as are llamas (to a certain extent).

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Ali G said:
Ayahuasca said:
Alpaca is not commonly farmed for food - it is kept for its wool. The Incas would execute anyone who killed an alpaca or a vicuna without permission.
The Incas may well have done - they also did quite a bit of 'human sacrificing' - so maybe not the best of judges. wink

Vicuna are, I think, rare if not endangered.

Alpaca, I'm pretty sure, could be farmed in this country (the weather's bad enough!) as are llamas (to a certain extent).
The Incas didn't do much 'human sacrificing' (except for the occasional virgin) - it was the Mayas and (especially) the Mexicans who did the whole walls of human skulls, ripping-out-still-beating-hearts and temples of blood thing.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
The Incas didn't do much 'human sacrificing' (except for the occasional virgin) - it was the Mayas and (especially) the Mexicans who did the whole walls of human skulls, ripping-out-still-beating-hearts and temples of blood thing.
I visited some Mayan ruins last year. The guide went on about how that sort of stuff went on, but nothing like in the scale that the popular perception has.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Halb said:
Ayahuasca said:
The Incas didn't do much 'human sacrificing' (except for the occasional virgin) - it was the Mayas and (especially) the Mexicans who did the whole walls of human skulls, ripping-out-still-beating-hearts and temples of blood thing.
I visited some Mayan ruins last year. The guide went on about how that sort of stuff went on, but nothing like in the scale that the popular perception has.
The Mexicans (aztecs) were the proper fierce ones. Mayas were second division.


ExChrispy Porker

16,914 posts

228 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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In my occupation ( furniture making ) many of the skills of 200 plus years ago have been lost. For all the modern materials and tools, some of the craftmanship of that era could not be reproduced today. One reason is that no-one wants to start an apprenticeship at 11 or 12!
When you consider that they were working by candlelight and drinking beer because the water was unsafe, it becomes even more admirable.
I think this kind of skills loss occurs almost inevitably as technology evolves.

Westy Pre-Lit

5,087 posts

203 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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ExChrispy Porker said:
I think this kind of skills loss occurs almost inevitably as technology evolves.
What is this supa dupa lost art of whacking a stone with stone of which you speak ?

1point7bar

1,305 posts

148 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Alpacas are farmed in the U.K.
The commercial viability is marginal because they produce little wool and there isn't a market for them as deadweight.
A sheep pregnancy lasts 9 weeks and an alpaca's 11.5 months!

Edited by 1point7bar on Tuesday 14th February 22:16

ExChrispy Porker

16,914 posts

228 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
What is this supa dupa lost art of whacking a stone with stone of which you speak ?
Pass.
It's been lost. smile

Westy Pre-Lit

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203 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Rubbish biggrin

ExChrispy Porker

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228 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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Well if it's a lost art, that suggests to me that it is, er, lost.

Westy Pre-Lit

5,087 posts

203 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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So let me get this straight. smile

We can put man on the moon, we can put a rover on mars, we can put man on the bottom of the oceans, we can look into the furthest reaches of space, we can communicate with people on the other side of the world with tiny hand-held devices. That's not to even mention many thousands of other things that would have been unimaginable a just a hundred years ago.....hell we can all blow ourselves up to kingdom come if we really wanted to at the touch of a button.

Yet you're expecting me to believe we have lost a certain art of whacking a stone with a stone....seriously?