Saturn images - Cassini

Saturn images - Cassini

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jmorgan

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284 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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AshVX220 said:
The Hexagon is fascinating. Makes me wonder how on Earth Saturn it was formed! smile
Sure I read somewhere they re created it in a bucket?

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Sensors and electronics in general, when put into space, have to put up with conditions rarely found on earth and so many modern imaging chips and other components just wouldn't survive, which is partly why cameras have relatively low resolutions and processors are much slower than we are used to, even taking into account the delay from design to launch.


AshVX220

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190 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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jmorgan said:
Sure I read somewhere they re created it in a bucket?
eek That's amazing! smile

jmorgan

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284 months

AshVX220

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190 months

Monday 12th December 2016
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jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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And another. Getting up close and personal now.
Daphnis
A shepherd moon. Looks more like a pistachio nut. Albeit a big one.
Credit from here
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA21056


Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Saturn is a very strange and lovely place.

scorp

8,783 posts

229 months

Tuesday 24th January 2017
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Fascinating picture! What exactly is the process causing the turbulence/wake? Assuming the moon is moving left->right. I can see why nearby ring would be pulled towards the moon (the part just behind the moon), but looking further back it seems to recoil back towards the ring somehow creating a wavy effect ?


Edited by scorp on Tuesday 24th January 10:13

jmorgan

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284 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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scorp said:
Fascinating picture! What exactly is the process causing the turbulence/wake? Assuming the moon is moving left->right. I can see why nearby ring would be pulled towards the moon (the part just behind the moon), but looking further back it seems to recoil back towards the ring somehow creating a wavy effect ?


Edited by scorp on Tuesday 24th January 10:13
Sorry, missed the ask. It is the small body that is probably a captured object and its orbit is inside the rings. The wavy effect, without checking, probably the moon gravity as it passes the ring material and the material is pulled back as it passes.

A quick google and there is this.
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/20...

Certainly a lot more going on.

jmorgan

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284 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Cassini updates a few. Stunning, but the scale is big.
https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/2993/close-views-...

https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/resources/7593/

Reading the caption for this image, more moons than they know what to do with.

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Caption says
"Ring Propellers
The view shows a section of the A ring known to researchers for hosting belts of propellers -- bright, narrow, propeller-shaped disturbances in the ring produced by the gravity of unseen embedded moonlets."



Edited by jmorgan on Tuesday 31st January 09:46

durbster

10,262 posts

222 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Astronomers are going to have to seriously expand their terminology. Just labelling everything as moons or planets isn't really sophisticated enough to cover all the stuff that's clearly out there.

Amazing photos.

jmorgan

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284 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Yeah, think the first link mentions resolving details at .3 mile.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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jmorgan said:
And another. Getting up close and personal now.
Daphnis
A shepherd moon. Looks more like a pistachio nut. Albeit a big one.
Credit from here
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA21056

Looks like there is a tiny moonlet on the left hand slope of the middle ring wave.

durbster

10,262 posts

222 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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jmorgan said:
Sorry, missed the ask. It is the small body that is probably a captured object and its orbit is inside the rings. The wavy effect, without checking, probably the moon gravity as it passes the ring material and the material is pulled back as it passes.
Could it be because the moon is spinning so it's gravity is constantly changing?

jmorgan

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284 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Dunno, thought of that but was not sure if these are locked or turning.

Edit. having a butchers at Wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphnis_(moon)

Discovered in 2005, but theorised it was there from its effects on the ring.



Edited by jmorgan on Tuesday 31st January 13:10

scorp

8,783 posts

229 months

Wednesday 1st February 2017
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jmorgan said:
Sorry, missed the ask. It is the small body that is probably a captured object and its orbit is inside the rings. The wavy effect, without checking, probably the moon gravity as it passes the ring material and the material is pulled back as it passes.

A quick google and there is this.
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/20...

Certainly a lot more going on.
I guess the force oscillating the ring back to it's original state is centrifugal then ? Or is it the moon itself that has a wobbly orbit?



Edited by scorp on Wednesday 1st February 09:21

cartart

218 posts

230 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Incredible. Awesome. Amazing.

I have never been in the science bit before and was killing time whilst awaiting a phone call. I am not a spacey person at all and I am genuinely stunned by these jaw dropping pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I may be a convert and need to see more?

jmorgan

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284 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Daphnis, more detail of the Keeler gap.
https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/resources/7604/?catego...
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA17212


Edit. For scorp question page 2
https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/resources/4543/
https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/resources/4606/

Guessing here, the spin of the planet and gravity pull it all back into shape. Earths view of Saturn also moves with respect its position (plane??). I have looked at Saturn one year and get the rings edge on then another and you can see down onto (up to) them.


Edited by jmorgan on Wednesday 8th March 07:59

scubadude

2,618 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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That is a superb image- hard to visualise the speed of the moon as it moves past the ring fragments, looks like its "surfing" and the collisions and impacts in the ring would be very interesting to see, I wonder if Cassini will get close enough to see more? If not I wonder if the evidence of motion and intereaction in the rings will justify a follow up orbiter to look into it?

jmorgan

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284 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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It is due to end in September.

https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/saturn-tour/wh...

Ring grazing dates
https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/2967/ring-grazing...
https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/2966/ring-grazing...

Another handy thing is
https://eyes.nasa.gov

Download the app and you can surf the space craft so to speak. And many other missions.