This sums up the pointless public space race

This sums up the pointless public space race

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Toaster

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Thursday 18th October 2018
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We once marvelled at Neil Armstrong. Now space is a playground for the rich
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct...

p1stonhead

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166 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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One of the most 'guardian' articles ever.

A ridiculous bitter rant about the fact we have enough problems on Earth so why bother written by someone who has a problem with rich people spending their money on the things they want.

'it may be worth bearing in mind the volume of carbon emissions that will entail'
'if the Earth is burning, why is so much money being frittered away on sending cars, pop stars and bond traders into orbit?'

The fkwit writing it cant even grasp that the Tesla being launched was simply a test flight and was something interestering rather than the dead weight of concrete or whatever they usually launch in such a test.

Pathetic article. Cutting edge science such as the new space race should be applauded.




Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 18th October 08:26

Eric Mc

121,770 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Pointless article - in every respect.

Accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Don't mess with Mr In Between

Toaster

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Really? It’s just a pointless vacuas exercise whoo hoo look at me I’m weightless and for my £250k I can call myself an astronut what a fking waste of time and resource

p1stonhead

25,489 posts

166 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Toaster said:
Really? It’s just a pointless vacuas exercise whoo hoo look at me I’m weightless and for my £250k I can call myself an astronut what a fking waste of time and resource
No it isn’t.

Cars, TV’s, Air Travel we’re all once for the wealthy. SpaceX are trying to push technology forwards.

Virgin’s tourist flights are different and a silly exercise on the face of it but I bet some tech advances come out of it and who are we to say what people can spend their money on?

Do you have a car? Is it anything above a basic Micra or the like?
If it is, why are you engaging in a ‘vacuas exercise’?

Eric Mc

121,770 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Don't bother.

Toltec

7,159 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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p1stonhead said:
Toaster said:
Really? It’s just a pointless vacuas exercise whoo hoo look at me I’m weightless and for my £250k I can call myself an astronut what a fking waste of time and resource
No it isn’t.

Cars, TV’s, Air Travel we’re all once for the wealthy. SpaceX are trying to push technology forwards.

Virgin’s tourist flights are different and a silly exercise on the face of it but I bet some tech advances come out of it and who are we to say what people can spend their money on?

Do you have a car? Is it anything above a basic Micra or the like?
If it is, why are you engaging in a ‘vacuas exercise’?
He has an Evora rofl

p1stonhead

25,489 posts

166 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Toltec said:
p1stonhead said:
Toaster said:
Really? It’s just a pointless vacuas exercise whoo hoo look at me I’m weightless and for my £250k I can call myself an astronut what a fking waste of time and resource
No it isn’t.

Cars, TV’s, Air Travel we’re all once for the wealthy. SpaceX are trying to push technology forwards.

Virgin’s tourist flights are different and a silly exercise on the face of it but I bet some tech advances come out of it and who are we to say what people can spend their money on?

Do you have a car? Is it anything above a basic Micra or the like?
If it is, why are you engaging in a ‘vacuas exercise’?
He has an Evora rofl
So as I expected. He is a troll and nothing more.

Toaster

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Thursday 18th October 2018
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Guys you get me wrong, I have no issue with space exploration but public joyrides what a waste of science and rescource

p1stonhead

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Thursday 18th October 2018
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Toaster said:
Guys you get me wrong, I have no issue with space exploration but public joyrides what a waste of science and rescource
So are lotuses then. Or literally anything that isn’t an absolute basic human need.

Got a TV? Got a smartphone?

Toaster

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Thursday 18th October 2018
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p1stonhead said:
So are lotuses then. Or literally anything that isn’t an absolute basic human need.

Got a TV? Got a smartphone?
did I say we should have nothing other than what we need to cover basic needs. What I and many people agree with is that Virgin Galactic Joy rides, Uber rich moon flyby or blue origin joy rides are a pointless vacuous waste end of. Oh and the lotus the fuels used on one of those joy moon flybys would probably power it for a thousand years. Is the lotus a unessacery east of Money and rescource quite probably along with the rest of my fleet.

p1stonhead

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Thursday 18th October 2018
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Toaster said:
p1stonhead said:
So are lotuses then. Or literally anything that isn’t an absolute basic human need.

Got a TV? Got a smartphone?
did I say we should have nothing other than what we need to cover basic needs. What I and many people agree with is that Virgin Galactic Joy rides, Uber rich moon flyby or blue origin joy rides are a pointless vacuous waste end of. Oh and the lotus the fuels used on one of those joy moon flybys would probably power it for a thousand years. Is the lotus a unessacery east of Money and rescource quite probably along with the rest of my fleet.
So is a Lotus. End of. So is doing anything above basic needs. Its all materialistic nonsence at the end of the day. But we live in a capitalist world where people can choose what they want to do with their money.
Your argument is fking idiotic.

No idea what an 'unessacery east of Money and rescource' is though laugh

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 18th October 12:19

Eric Mc

121,770 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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This poster has aired this view numerous times. Initially I did engage but soon discovered that it was a pointless exercise.I even raised some of the points you have as a response, mistakenly assuming that the poster was interested in a genuine discussion. I was wrong. It's all getting a bit circular and tedious.

There are far more inspiring and educational threads in the science forum that are much more pleasurable.

Toaster

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2,938 posts

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Thursday 18th October 2018
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p1stonhead said:
So is a Lotus. End of. So is doing anything above basic needs. Its all materialistic nonsence at the end of the day. But we live in a capitalist world where people can choose what they want to do with their money.
Your argument is fking idiotic.

No idea what an 'unessacery waste of Money and rescource' is though laugh

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 18th October 12:19
Capilisem is struggling mainly for the few who are getting richer to squander their rescource on a vacuous joy ride many so bored and unhappy with their own lives seek another pay and go thrill at what expense eh ?

Toaster

Original Poster:

2,938 posts

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Thursday 18th October 2018
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Eric Mc said:
This poster has aired this view numerous times. Initially I did engage but soon discovered that it was a pointless exercise.I even raised some of the points you have as a response, mistakenly assuming that the poster was interested in a genuine discussion. I was wrong. It's all getting a bit circular and tedious.

There are far more inspiring and educational threads in the science forum that are much more pleasurable.
Blimey Eric my friend have you read the article it does support my view which as view does not make it right or wrong but the point is to debate around it would show intellect. After all it is a science forum unless your and others stance is just a positivist one.

p1stonhead

25,489 posts

166 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Toaster said:
p1stonhead said:
So is a Lotus. End of. So is doing anything above basic needs. Its all materialistic nonsence at the end of the day. But we live in a capitalist world where people can choose what they want to do with their money.
Your argument is fking idiotic.

No idea what an 'unessacery waste of Money and rescource' is though laugh

Edited by p1stonhead on Thursday 18th October 12:19
Capilisem is struggling mainly for the few who are getting richer to squander their rescource on a vacuous joy ride many so bored and unhappy with their own lives seek another pay and go thrill at what expense eh ?
Says the man with a small, thirsty, low slung british sports car laugh

Eric Mc

121,770 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I'm wondering if the OP has a mental health problem. His spelling and punctuation is all over the shop and I don't remember it being so bad in the past.

He also seemingly wilfuly misunderstood comments I made in the "First Man" thread.

I genuinely think he might need help.

Because of that, I'm not going to engage in a debate with him for the reasons mentioned above.

He raised a pretty similar topic a while ago in respect of Virgin Galactic. He's obviously broadened his attack now to include every wealthy entrepreneur who fancies putting their own money into spaceflight technology.

I won't be saying anything else on this specific thread.

avinalarf

6,438 posts

141 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I am in awe of those that have the brain power and ability to move the evolution of mankind onto the next step.
As for Musk and those like him, credit to them for having great vision and the ability to fund the research required for such ventures.
The great voyages of discovery 500 years ago were funded by Royalty and wealthy benefactors albeit not for altruistic reasons.

Toltec

7,159 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Eric Mc said:
I'm wondering if the OP has a mental health problem. His spelling and punctuation is all over the shop and I don't remember it being so bad in the past.
Maybe just thumb typing on a phone while driving a Lotus and complaining about people with money to spare.

Toaster

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Thursday 18th October 2018
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Nanook said:
Are you interested in debating it though?

It seems like you're more interested in telling us that you're right, and everyone else is wrong.
not really the replies are quite adamant the article was wrong. I just happen to agree with what the journalist wrote and I will not be the only one.