Mars is barred: why we shouldn't go to the red planet

Mars is barred: why we shouldn't go to the red planet

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Toaster

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Friday 19th October 2018
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Here is a pod cast and to be honest I can't agree more about why we shouldn't go to the red planet.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/audio/2018/oct...





Toaster

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Sunday 21st October 2018
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Wow a real debate and perspective yet none of the PH experts can comment. Says everything really.

Einion Yrth

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243 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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It says that you're a tedious miserable git with whom no-one wishes to engage.

The Wookie

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227 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Einion Yrth said:
It says that you're a tedious miserable git with whom no-one wishes to engage.
+1 I’d rather attempt a reasoned debate with my Mum about her motorway lane discipline

deckster

9,630 posts

254 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Also, posting a link to a half hour audio programme and saying 'I agree' is the height of laziness. If you want to discuss anything raised in there, you're going to have to do the work and pull out the bits that you think are worthy of debate.

Kccv23highliftcam

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74 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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The Wookie said:
Einion Yrth said:
It says that you're a tedious miserable git with whom no-one wishes to engage.
+1 I’d rather attempt a reasoned debate with my Mum about her motorway lane discipline
whaddya mean--she sticks it in the middle one! You told me earlier!! bounce



Toaster

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Monday 22nd October 2018
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deckster said:
Also, posting a link to a half hour audio programme and saying 'I agree' is the height of laziness. If you want to discuss anything raised in there, you're going to have to do the work and pull out the bits that you think are worthy of debate.
That’s what a Scientist has to do, hungry for knowledge and critically think and review evidence which my friend is not apparent in most of these sudo Science postings. It takes effort thought and insite. If I repeated part of an argument of why I support the view I would get just as much abuse as I getting now which reflects the ignorance of the issues.

Toaster

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Monday 22nd October 2018
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Einion Yrth said:
It says that you're a tedious miserable git with whom no-one wishes to engage.
Ignorance is no excuse for abuse. It was posted to debate a valid and alternative view. I did not ask YOu to debate with ME but around the podcast where Scientists yup real Sientists putthier case forward. Clearly it’s too much to expect a reasoned balanced response.


Toaster

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Monday 22nd October 2018
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The Wookie said:
Einion Yrth said:
It says that you're a tedious miserable git with whom no-one wishes to engage.
+1 I’d rather attempt a reasoned debate with my Mum about her motorway lane discipline
Well children carry on in your playpen and let the adults listen to a genuine scientific argument.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

185 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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So give us a summary..?

The Wookie

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227 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Toaster said:
Well children carry on in your playpen and let the adults listen to a genuine scientific argument.
Enjoy your empty room!

Evanivitch

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121 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Toaster said:
That’s what a Scientist has to do, hungry for knowledge and critically think and review evidence which my friend is not apparent in most of these sudo Science postings. It takes effort thought and insite. If I repeated part of an argument of why I support the view I would get just as much abuse as I getting now which reflects the ignorance of the issues.
So why have you posted an opinion piece?

Toaster

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Monday 22nd October 2018
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Johnnytheboy said:
So give us a summary..?
oh come on ! and spoil it for every one tut tut biggrin

Toaster

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Monday 22nd October 2018
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The Wookie said:
Enjoy your empty room!
it’s a public space matey and clearly not empty but still awaiting an intelligent response which being on the science thread on PH is highly unlikely wink

Toaster

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Monday 22nd October 2018
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Evanivitch said:
Toaster said:
That’s what a Scientist has to do, hungry for knowledge and critically think and review evidence which my friend is not apparent in most of these sudo Science postings. It takes effort thought and insite. If I repeated part of an argument of why I support the view I would get just as much abuse as I getting now which reflects the ignorance of the issues.
So why have you posted an opinion piece?
every one is allowed an opinion even you but it doesn’t make it valid or true however the pod cast contains some Jems and debate.

GTO-3R

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212 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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The Wookie said:
+1 I’d rather attempt a reasoned debate with my Mum about her motorway lane discipline
rofl

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

197 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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"Jems"? "sudo"? "insite"?
Do us all a favour and go read the dictionary for a bit, rather than the Guardian, eh?

Toaster

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Monday 22nd October 2018
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CrutyRammers said:
"Jems"? "sudo"? "insite"?
Do us all a favour and go read the dictionary for a bit, rather than the Guardian, eh?
Hmmm well whilst my spilling ain’t wot u fink it shud be I Cldn’t give a flying fig. So big boy go and listen to the pod cast and post somfink intelligent about it if you can, the pod cast scientists are not Guardian journalists.

Some Gump

12,671 posts

185 months

Monday 22nd October 2018
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Toaster said:
That’s what a Scientist has to do, hungry for knowledge and critically think and review evidence which my friend is not apparent in most of these sudo Science postings. It takes effort thought and insite. If I repeated part of an argument of why I support the view I would get just as much abuse as I getting now which reflects the ignorance of the issues.
It's a guardian podcast where one contributor is "a contributor to the guardian who blogs about mars". It's hardly Hawking vs Elon Musk.

My null hypothesis is that listening to it would be a waste of time. That you have read it and were not inspired enough to at least bullet point the top 3 discussion points supports that view. It's not ignorance to spend your time in the way that you expect to be best use of it.

Toaster

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Monday 22nd October 2018
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Some Gump said:
It's a guardian podcast where one contributor is "a contributor to the guardian who blogs about mars". It's hardly Hawking vs Elon Musk.

My null hypothesis is that listening to it would be a waste of time. That you have read it and were not inspired enough to at least bullet point the top 3 discussion points supports that view. It's not ignorance to spend your time in the way that you expect to be best use of it.
You will see if I had bulleted it I would have been flamed, so I tried self discovery for those with inquisitive open minds clearly it’s the anti Science forum with individuals wishing to be spoon fed.
Oh in case you havent been in touch with news Hawkin is dead and Musk’s posts are a bit

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