Climate Change - The Scientific Debate

Climate Change - The Scientific Debate

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alock

4,227 posts

211 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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mondeoman said:
Have you read some of the comments yikes

Some serious allegations there.
The comments sum up the whole debate for me. All they do is try and discredit anyone who speaks out against the consensus view.

It's proof to me that many therefore see it as a political issue and not a scientific issue.

TheExcession

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11,669 posts

250 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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alock said:
It's proof to me that many therefore see it as a political issue and not a scientific issue.
Witness the volume of posts on our 'political thread' versus this 'scientific thread'.

The science is settled don't you know? Leaving one to only decide towards which side of the fence one would like to jump.

Oh what a paradox! hehe

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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TheExcession said:
Oh what a paradox! hehe
Tried that in the washer once. It was rubbish, nowhere near as good as Daz. What happened to Omo..?

TheExcession

Original Poster:

11,669 posts

250 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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mybrainhurts said:
TheExcession said:
Oh what a paradox! hehe
Tried that in the washer once. It was rubbish, nowhere near as good as Daz. What happened to Omo..?
Was that a cool or a warm wash? Was your machine calibrated?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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TheExcession said:
mybrainhurts said:
TheExcession said:
Oh what a paradox! hehe
Tried that in the washer once. It was rubbish, nowhere near as good as Daz. What happened to Omo..?
Was that a cool or a warm wash? Was your machine calibrated?
I think it was on the blink. It was supposed to be getting warmer, but proved to be plunging into a period of terminal cooling.

Baron Greenback

6,980 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Globs

13,841 posts

231 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Baron Greenback said:
biggrin Very good.

Why stop at 65million years though? This could be the biggest and fastest temperature rise since the Big Bang!!
And we can stop this thermal runaway, if everyone in the west immediately stopped using energy we'll be at least 0.125C cooler, according to models.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

266 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Have you noticed how all of this guff is based on reviews of reports on reviews of reports on reviews of reports. Not a single bit of original science.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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Oh noes! Doom be upon us, I tell thee!

http://motherjones.com/environment/2013/08/five-te...

Globs

13,841 posts

231 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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TheHeretic said:
Oh noes! Doom be upon us, I tell thee!

http://motherjones.com/environment/2013/08/five-te...
So all this warming that stopped 16+ years ago is going to get worse, maybe we're looking at a 0.0C rise over the next decade causing all sorts of extra melting and flood chaos.

Sobering stuff, this 'could change a bit in 1000 years' malarky.

rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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TheHeretic said:
Oh noes! Doom be upon us, I tell thee!

http://motherjones.com/environment/2013/08/five-te...
The comments are amazing. Some deluded people out there.

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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kiethton said:
Complete with pictures of sad looking Polar bears rofl

In other news, scientists are 95% sure the universe is expanding in order to distance itself from the field of stupidity surrounding Earth.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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Well, why HAS global warming has slowed? We all need to ask why the weather is why it has not warmed. When we figure out when the when it will be discovered then it then shall be found out.

Obviously.

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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Fukushima thread here.

Sayonara.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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Ah, cheers.

LongQ

13,864 posts

233 months

Monday 26th August 2013
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"Six health myths you should ignore

We are constantly being bombarded with health advice, but not all of it is based on rigorous evidence.

This week's issue of New Sicnetist debunks the six common myths you should ignore. You can read the whole thing here."

New Scientist sent me a mail a few days ago. This was one of the articles they proudly pointed to. Pity about the spelling error of their name but, hey, anyone can make a mistake.

Given that this is health related one might expect them to be very rigourous about their analysis. The alternative might lead to suggestions that they are trying to influence people to have unhelthy lifestyles perhaps with a view to reducing life spans and, at a stretch, saving the planet.

Think about the first two sentences.

The Six Health Myths they have chosen might, broadly, be considered as consensus science in the world of health care providers. Yet firstly they say (probably quite rightly) that we should ignore such advice.

Firstly they are saying it is anot all rigorous? Gosh, that's an interesting observation. Or is it an opinion?

Secondly they are saying that these often communicated ideas are simply wrong and should be ignored! Well, well, well.

Finally they suggest we can use a link to read the whole article but this is at best misleading and at worst fraud because you can't - not unless you are subscribed to their site.


I'm puzzled. Is there an explanation that can be put forward in support of their claims?




hairykrishna

13,166 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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LongQ said:
The Six Health Myths they have chosen might, broadly, be considered as consensus science in the world of health care providers. Yet firstly they say (probably quite rightly) that we should ignore such advice.

Firstly they are saying it is anot all rigorous? Gosh, that's an interesting observation. Or is it an opinion?

Secondly they are saying that these often communicated ideas are simply wrong and should be ignored! Well, well, well.

Finally they suggest we can use a link to read the whole article but this is at best misleading and at worst fraud because you can't - not unless you are subscribed to their site.


I'm puzzled. Is there an explanation that can be put forward in support of their claims?
Actually it's the exact opposite of the 'consensus science' view. It's a list of 6 things which aren't supported by medical evidence and aren't the scientific view. I can read it here without subscription; http://www.newscientist.com/special/six-health-myt... (I think - I'm at work and we may have one)

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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FYI - that's preview only to the rest of us, HK.

hairykrishna

13,166 posts

203 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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grumbledoak said:
FYI - that's preview only to the rest of us, HK.
Bugger, sorry. No idea why we have a sub to NS - it's been a bit ropey for years now.
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