Oil extractor pump - a warning

Oil extractor pump - a warning

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B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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xreyuk said:
Are these things actually any good? From what I've read, they're no where near as good for draining as removing the sump plug.
First time I used it - I checked the oil level first (SLK) was just below max on dip stick (it doesn't use any between changes)

I started extracting the oil from the sump and while that was going on removed the Oil filter cover ready to replace the filter

Once all the oil had been extracted from the sump I used the pipe to extract the oil that remained in the oil filer housing

I refilled with all the oil from a 5 L can and between 0.3 & 0.4 L from a 1 Litre bottle

Capacity is stated at 5.5 L so it left a little bit in the sump but apparently not much

Globs

13,841 posts

230 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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22rgt B Squadron said:
xreyuk said:
Are these things actually any good? From what I've read, they're no where near as good for draining as removing the sump plug.
Theyre not, total rubbish and wont remove all the old oil. Far better to do the job properly and a lot easier by just draining the oil at the drain plug which is what its for. Smart cars along with some others dont have a drain plug but we've modified three of these now for owners wishing to be able to drain the oil properly. We've removed these sumps drilled, welded and threaded them to take a drain plug and personally believe will aid in engine longevity in the long run..
I have a Pela and it is completely ACE.
Used it in cars and bikes, you just pump it up, whack in the tube and a few minutes later it's all ready for the refill.
The Pela tubes are _very_ long and straight so no chance losing any. You can see how many litres come out so you know you've got it all.

Sump plugs are fine but damp dirty drives, undertrays and having to crawl underneath with a catch-tray are not wink

traffman

2,263 posts

208 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Blimey i have never heard of an oil extractor before!

I change the oil every 8 thousand miles the good ole fashion way , and i shall continue to do so until i'm too old .

Ps did op manage to fix the problem? I nodded off half way through.....the only way to sort it would be to remove the sump.

Globs

13,841 posts

230 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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traffman said:
the only way to sort it would be to remove the sump.
Or just leave it. The oil strainer will stop it going up anywhere, not seeing a problem really. I might have a pole through the sump hole if desperate but if I couldn't catch it I'd leave it there.

Mr Happy

5,694 posts

219 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Globs said:
traffman said:
the only way to sort it would be to remove the sump.
Or just leave it. The oil strainer will stop it going up anywhere, not seeing a problem really. I might have a pole through the sump hole if desperate but if I couldn't catch it I'd leave it there.
Err...

what about if it gets wrapped up around the crank? That's going to do it no good at all...

(this isn't the OP's engine but it illustrates my point)


Globs

13,841 posts

230 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Mr Happy said:
Globs said:
traffman said:
the only way to sort it would be to remove the sump.
Or just leave it. The oil strainer will stop it going up anywhere, not seeing a problem really. I might have a pole through the sump hole if desperate but if I couldn't catch it I'd leave it there.
Err...

what about if it gets wrapped up around the crank? That's going to do it no good at all...

(this isn't the OP's engine but it illustrates my point)

I can't see anything in that crank - what am I looking for?

Mr Happy

5,694 posts

219 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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There isn't anything 'in' the crank pictured, I was just using that picture to illustrate the chance that the plastic tubing could conceivably catch on one of the counterweights on the crank and end up wrapped around it.

It's a small chance, but personally I'd either get it out or drop the sump, I'd not want to drive the car knowing it had a rather large foreign object in the sump!

Globs

13,841 posts

230 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Mr Happy said:
There isn't anything 'in' the crank pictured, I was just using that picture to illustrate the chance that the plastic tubing could conceivably catch on one of the counterweights on the crank and end up wrapped around it.

It's a small chance, but personally I'd either get it out or drop the sump, I'd not want to drive the car knowing it had a rather large foreign object in the sump!
Oh I see.

Well I can't see how a plastic tube could physically get into the oil pressured bearing, it might get smashed but the strainer and filter would get any bits. I suspect it would just end up lying about at the bottom and could be ignored.

It's not like having a bit of metal in there.

liner33

10,642 posts

201 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Well this thread actually convinced me to buy an extractor pump , I bought a Pela 650 and what a great bit of kit , since I change my oil every 5k or 6 months it will save a huge amount of time and mess

Sucked 4.6l out of my Skyline in less than 10 minutes

Roger46

2 posts

128 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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I recon you could have left it in the sump! It couldn't block anything and it's not going to cause anything to get jammed ! Not ideal but . . .

On the other hand would you take the chance. Not in a mini certainly (gearbox) but in most of the cars I've owned I'd risk it.

GVK

805 posts

241 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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22rgt B Squadron said:
Theyre not, total rubbish and wont remove all the old oil. Far better to do the job properly and a lot easier by just draining the oil at the drain plug which is what its for. Smart cars along with some others dont have a drain plug but we've modified three of these now for owners wishing to be able to drain the oil properly. We've removed these sumps drilled, welded and threaded them to take a drain plug and personally believe will aid in engine longevity in the long run..
Good idea, why on earth Smart cars don't have a drainplug I'll never know.

poxy things, 6 Spark plugs on a 3 cyl engine and you have to remove the back end panels and bracing to access them.

... stE

MrLou

Original Poster:

879 posts

220 months

Monday 9th December 2013
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noell35 said:
I reckon he's not that bothered now, he lost the tube in 2011 biggrin
I've been a bit busy the last couple of years and haven't been on here, but thanks, that's a handy looking tool.

The venerable A3, BTW, is still going strong now with nearly 140k on the clock.

Neil_M

694 posts

183 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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MrLou said:
I've been a bit busy the last couple of years and haven't been on here, but thanks, that's a handy looking tool.

The venerable A3, BTW, is still going strong now with nearly 140k on the clock.
Did you manage to get this sorted? I drifted off after people telling you to suck eggs smile.

*Al*

3,830 posts

221 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Neil_M said:
MrLou said:
I've been a bit busy the last couple of years and haven't been on here, but thanks, that's a handy looking tool.

The venerable A3, BTW, is still going strong now with nearly 140k on the clock.
Did you manage to get this sorted? I drifted off after people telling you to suck eggs smile.
Same as, 5 pages with no answer!! How did you get it out or did you leave it in there?

liner33

10,642 posts

201 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Try reading the thread again, he drove it to a garage

Escy

3,907 posts

148 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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I'd have left it in there personally, wouldn't do any harm.

I've never used an oil extractor but one reason i'd consider one that's not been mentioned. I've had the odd (alloy) sump where the drain bolt has been over tightened/cross threaded. Sometimes it's best to avoid touching it at all.

Searider

979 posts

254 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Roger46 said:
I recon you could have left it in the sump! It couldn't block anything and it's not going to cause anything to get jammed ! Not ideal but . . .

On the other hand would you take the chance. Not in a mini certainly (gearbox) but in most of the cars I've owned I'd risk it.
My brother had a piece of plastic camshaft chain tensioner break off and drop down into the sump.
Thought all was well and had the tensioner changed.
Shortly afterwards started getting all sorts of running problems. Turns out that the piece of plastic had damaged the crank position ring on the end of the crankshaft.
New crankshaft needed :-(
Saab 9-3 Aero

I wouldn't risk it!

apples24

28 posts

200 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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I bought one from eBay to do my discovery 3 it don’t bloody work, tried bucket water worked.

Got about half a cup full out lol

Was gutted

Chrismawa

553 posts

99 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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apples24 said:
I bought one from eBay to do my discovery 3 it don’t bloody work, tried bucket water worked.

Got about half a cup full out lol

Was gutted
Buy a proper one. Get a Pela. They work.

Dave.

7,324 posts

252 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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For a D3?

Why? You don't even need a jack! confused