Triple QX engine oil...Thoughts?
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Personal experience over many years of servicing friends/family/customers cars yearly - when I used to happily use comma oils and triple Qx in peoples cars - the cars that used decent quality oils like Mobil/Castrol/millers nano came back year after year - on petrol engine cars came out golden brown and no sludge build up in the engine or under the rocker cover, Diesel engines came out black obviously but still no sludge. The cars with the cheaper oil in always came out black or very dark at service time, more sludge and crud and causing other problems occasionally (noisy lifters, noisy startups)
I stay away from cheap oil now - for the small extra cost of decent oil it isn’t worth it in my opinion
I stay away from cheap oil now - for the small extra cost of decent oil it isn’t worth it in my opinion
Interesting. I used Triple QX in my 9-3 aero for the last 35k change at between 8-12k miles. As I do 25k a year soon adds up.
Equally as other have said I believe most engine issues happen because people just don’t check. I check mine at least once a week along with checking everything else, tyres, brakes Etc Only takes few minutes.
I would add that the correct grade is more important. I had Civic 2.0 Type S before. Honda service centre used 0-20W noticed car was using oil all of a sudden. Did some research and in the US they recommend 5-30W due to oil usage and damage to camshafts. Honda changed to 0-20W initially to improve mpg. Anyway I changed it myself to Mobil 5-30W and car never used a drop after that.
Equally as other have said I believe most engine issues happen because people just don’t check. I check mine at least once a week along with checking everything else, tyres, brakes Etc Only takes few minutes.
I would add that the correct grade is more important. I had Civic 2.0 Type S before. Honda service centre used 0-20W noticed car was using oil all of a sudden. Did some research and in the US they recommend 5-30W due to oil usage and damage to camshafts. Honda changed to 0-20W initially to improve mpg. Anyway I changed it myself to Mobil 5-30W and car never used a drop after that.
It's fine from my experiences. Just make sure you get the correct weight specified for the car
I also have a question. Is anyone used engine degreasers before? One of these maybe https://www.bestadvisers.co.uk/engine-degreasers (it sells at a discound )
I also have a question. Is anyone used engine degreasers before? One of these maybe https://www.bestadvisers.co.uk/engine-degreasers (it sells at a discound )
Edited by Will4H on Friday 7th August 11:24
Will4H said:
It's fine from my experiences. Just make sure you get the correct weight specified for the car
I also have a question. Is anyone used engine degreasers before? One of these maybe https://www.bestadvisers.co.uk/engine-degreasers (it sells at a discound )
Used loads of degreasers, never been bothered by the brand/quality. It is generally used to make a dirty job easier to see and work on, or prepare.I also have a question. Is anyone used engine degreasers before? One of these maybe https://www.bestadvisers.co.uk/engine-degreasers (it sells at a discound )
Edited by Will4H on Friday 7th August 11:24
Oil, quality is a bit more important.
Oil analysis can reveal a lot about the state of an engine. F1 teams, or more precisely, their oil company sponsors do it to control the condition of engines and gearboxes and identify impending problems. It has a major consequence for avoiding failures during competion.
Oil marketing is a complicated business. The oil companies are very much aware that some people buy an oil because it's the cheapest and others would never buy a cheap and even restrict themselves to the most expensive. Obviously, the deliver their products to satisfy all the buyers. I'd say find an oil from a respected manufacturer/supplier that's suitable for your engine (classic, mnodern, catalyst...). Don't worry too much about interpretting the relation of cost to quality. And change it regularly. For modern, long service interval cars, never go beyond the recommended interval.
Oil reducing engine noise is a bit of a surprise to me. If there is a change in noise, I'd worry that the sump wasn't filled to the correct level, the valve clearances were opening or something else was going wrong in the heath of the engine. Might be time for that oil analysis ... if you can interpret the results.
Oil marketing is a complicated business. The oil companies are very much aware that some people buy an oil because it's the cheapest and others would never buy a cheap and even restrict themselves to the most expensive. Obviously, the deliver their products to satisfy all the buyers. I'd say find an oil from a respected manufacturer/supplier that's suitable for your engine (classic, mnodern, catalyst...). Don't worry too much about interpretting the relation of cost to quality. And change it regularly. For modern, long service interval cars, never go beyond the recommended interval.
Oil reducing engine noise is a bit of a surprise to me. If there is a change in noise, I'd worry that the sump wasn't filled to the correct level, the valve clearances were opening or something else was going wrong in the heath of the engine. Might be time for that oil analysis ... if you can interpret the results.
I don't rate it after using it in my high mileage 530d. After the change it didn't have that 'just serviced smoothness' I'd come to expect. It was also being burnt, loosing a litre every 3000 miles or so. After swapping for a well known quality brand this seemed to stop overnight, I wouldn't use it again, it's a budget oil I think is produced from recycled base stocks.
I used Triple QX and it's quite good. Does anybody use a Gunk 733 engine degreaser? It's third one here https://www.bestadvisers.co.uk/engine-degreasers
I've used QX in the past, no issues, as said its regular oil changes keep things sweet.
As for noisy oils, i've run 3 litre 4 pot Toyota Diesels for some 25 years and still have one so know how these things should sound.
Two oils i dropped after very short mileages because with these oils in the engines (one mechanically injected old school, the other a D4D) they sounded rattly, in the first case worryingly so.
One was Comma and the other Shell Helix. No harm was happening as far as i know and both vehicles carried on and in the current vehicle carry on giving totally reliable service, but using other makes of oil since for a quieter and less worrying life.
I usually buy in 20 litre packs when i see an offer, currently Castol full synth in stock for the D and Fuchs for the petrol engines, but have bought Morris's, Elf, MIllers, Exol over the years as and when i spots a bargain.
Also have gone back to finding Diesel specific oils for my Diesels rather than one oil deemed suitable for both, not suggesting anyone else does just mentioning.
As for noisy oils, i've run 3 litre 4 pot Toyota Diesels for some 25 years and still have one so know how these things should sound.
Two oils i dropped after very short mileages because with these oils in the engines (one mechanically injected old school, the other a D4D) they sounded rattly, in the first case worryingly so.
One was Comma and the other Shell Helix. No harm was happening as far as i know and both vehicles carried on and in the current vehicle carry on giving totally reliable service, but using other makes of oil since for a quieter and less worrying life.
I usually buy in 20 litre packs when i see an offer, currently Castol full synth in stock for the D and Fuchs for the petrol engines, but have bought Morris's, Elf, MIllers, Exol over the years as and when i spots a bargain.
Also have gone back to finding Diesel specific oils for my Diesels rather than one oil deemed suitable for both, not suggesting anyone else does just mentioning.
BearW17 said:
I used Triple QX and it's quite good. Does anybody use a Gunk 733 engine degreaser? It's third one here https://www.bestadvisers.co.uk/engine-degreasers
It has a strong smell and it’s not nice. I used triple qx in my 330k for the last 250k or so , no dramas
I now use mannol in our newer car and change it every 6 months.
The main dealer crooks are happy to re use oil from their oil collector in a nearly new car, which has a total mix of all sorts of crap from numerous cars in.
I now use mannol in our newer car and change it every 6 months.
The main dealer crooks are happy to re use oil from their oil collector in a nearly new car, which has a total mix of all sorts of crap from numerous cars in.
Spare tyre said:
I used triple qx in my 330k for the last 250k or so , no dramas
I now use mannol in our newer car and change it every 6 months.
The main dealer crooks are happy to re use oil from their oil collector in a nearly new car, which has a total mix of all sorts of crap from numerous cars in.
That's quite a claim... ?!I now use mannol in our newer car and change it every 6 months.
The main dealer crooks are happy to re use oil from their oil collector in a nearly new car, which has a total mix of all sorts of crap from numerous cars in.
Not saying I don't believe you, just that it would take some balls to do so and (presumably) charge for a £££ service using new oil, given it would surely ruin the dealer's reputation if caught.
RSTurboPaul said:
Spare tyre said:
I used triple qx in my 330k for the last 250k or so , no dramas
I now use mannol in our newer car and change it every 6 months.
The main dealer crooks are happy to re use oil from their oil collector in a nearly new car, which has a total mix of all sorts of crap from numerous cars in.
That's quite a claim... ?!I now use mannol in our newer car and change it every 6 months.
The main dealer crooks are happy to re use oil from their oil collector in a nearly new car, which has a total mix of all sorts of crap from numerous cars in.
Not saying I don't believe you, just that it would take some balls to do so and (presumably) charge for a £££ service using new oil, given it would surely ruin the dealer's reputation if caught.
HustleRussell said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Spare tyre said:
I used triple qx in my 330k for the last 250k or so , no dramas
I now use mannol in our newer car and change it every 6 months.
The main dealer crooks are happy to re use oil from their oil collector in a nearly new car, which has a total mix of all sorts of crap from numerous cars in.
That's quite a claim... ?!I now use mannol in our newer car and change it every 6 months.
The main dealer crooks are happy to re use oil from their oil collector in a nearly new car, which has a total mix of all sorts of crap from numerous cars in.
Not saying I don't believe you, just that it would take some balls to do so and (presumably) charge for a £££ service using new oil, given it would surely ruin the dealer's reputation if caught.
Had a nearly new Hyundai for family run around
Oil Level sensor in sump failed at around 1 year old
I enquired and they wouldn’t put new oil in as part of the warranty work, but re use what they took out. I asked if it would be taken from the generic catch all pot which they replied it would be
So I delayed the warranty repair until it was due a service
Of course, the cretins did the service on a Monday and the sump off repair the following day, oil didn’t look very clean with less than 0.1 miles on it
Their servicing seems a bit minimalistic, lots of things not done, simple things like screen wash, sat nav update, oiling hinges etc
It’s as if they can get away with it the majority of the time and very tricky to prove otherwise
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