Pressure bleed kit for brakes...

Pressure bleed kit for brakes...

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Vincefox

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20,566 posts

171 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Is this as straightforward as it looks? I'm looking at the pump pressure ones like this:


trickywoo

11,705 posts

229 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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The ones that suck from the nipple hehe do a pretty good job.

It'll still be a lot easier with two people though for the topping up of fluid / closing the nipple process.


KevinCamaroSS

11,555 posts

279 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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I remember the good old days, jam jar, flexi-pipe and a can of fluid.

trickywoo

11,705 posts

229 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
I remember the good old days, jam jar, flexi-pipe and a can of fluid.
Still do that with a motorbike as its an easy one man job.

One way nipples are maybe worth a look too but you still have the issue of thread bleed-by once the ptfe type thing they have wears off.

ianrb

1,529 posts

139 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Vincefox said:
Is this as straightforward as it looks? I'm looking at the pump pressure ones like this:

I have one, and yes it makes it a nice easy one man job.


eltax91

9,842 posts

205 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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I just went to the pond suppliers and bought some pipe and a one way valve. Hole in lid of jam jar, thread pipe through.

Place pipe on nipple, crack, pump as required, toghren nipple, remove pipe, gravity feed rest to jam jar.

Repeat

Easy and cheap and very reliable.

PositronicRay

26,957 posts

182 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Many ABS systems require pressure, even more with ESP.

I use a gunsons powered off a spare tyre, works ok for occasional use, check what pressure your brakes need to be bled @.

Oh and be careful using the pump the pedal method , if the master cylinder is worn you can damage the seals, place a brick or something under the pedal to restrict the travel.

Edited by PositronicRay on Friday 14th July 17:23

Vincefox

Original Poster:

20,566 posts

171 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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PositronicRay said:
Many ABS systems require pressure, even more with ESP.

I use a gunsons powered off a spare tyre, works ok for occasional use, check what pressure your brakes need to be bled @.

Oh and be careful using the pump the pedal method , if the master cylinder is worn you can damage the seals, place a brick or something under the pedal to restrict the travel.

Edited by PositronicRay on Friday 14th July 17:23
Good shout on checking pressure for bleeding, cheers.

IKWYM about the pedal/MC issue, it's surprising how many people aren't aware and get caught out by that.


Long story short, I've had a lot of people work om y brakes over the years and let me down. I'm hoping to upgrade my fronts in the next few months (e36 M3 to AP 4 pots and floaters) as well as putting new calipers on the rear and possiby braided rear lines too. I'm a bit fussy about doing it correctly and want to learn to be 100% self sufficient in keeping my brakes running right so this seems the best way.

J4CKO

41,287 posts

199 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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I use the Gunson one and its been fine, its mainly bleed nipples snapping that causes the issues biggrin

rxe

6,700 posts

102 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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All of the pressure ones are great until it goes wrong. Either the seal isn't straight, or the cap is slightly wrong .... and then you have brake fluid everywhere, and about 30 seconds to get it off the paint before it destroys the finish.

There are really good vacuum ones that come with a clamp on reservoir, never had a problem with these.

Vincefox

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20,566 posts

171 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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rxe said:
All of the pressure ones are great until it goes wrong. Either the seal isn't straight, or the cap is slightly wrong .... and then you have brake fluid everywhere, and about 30 seconds to get it off the paint before it destroys the finish.

There are really good vacuum ones that come with a clamp on reservoir, never had a problem with these.
Hate to be a pain, but if you have chance could you point me to a link or pic of the kind of thing you mean please?

I know I'm going to buy the kit do do this somehow but want to make sure I go for the best solution for me. I had the car resprayed a couple of years ago and the thought of one letting go of a litre of fluid at 30psi during a bleed is a little offputting.

teeCup

193 posts

161 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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I too have the Gunson easybleed and it's a great bit of kit; I have bled brakes and clutches as a one man job without problem. Regarding spillage or fluid going everywhere, if you simply test the seal to the reservoir with just air pressure (no fluid in the bottle) you will know if you have the cap on correctly without risking any mess or wasted fluid.


untakenname

4,953 posts

191 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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With most modern cars you need to cycle the ABS solenoids to drain the majority of the fluid, just sucking from the wheel furthest away from the MC doesn't remove very much fluid so you need to bleed the brakes once conventionally then connect a service tool and set it to cycle the abs then bleed the system once again.
I discovered this for myself on a Ford Focus using the conventional method but wasn't happy with the results so did some research then a couple of days later using some freeware called Forscan which connects via odb2 activated the 'ABS service bleed' function which is the same routine that's used at the dealerships which then cycles the pump and on the second bleeding a load more dirty fluid was expelled.

steveo3002

10,493 posts

173 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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no problems with the easybleed here , good value little tool and ive never had any leaks or bother with it

not a bad idea to keep a hose of bucket and sponge handy incase fluid gets on the paint

Stegel

1,950 posts

173 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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I've used a Sealey vacuum bleeder with zero success - whether it was me, the tool's useless or the car (MB 129 SL) I don't know. I then used a Sealey pressure bleeder, similar to the one above, which, after a false start (for heaven's sake depressurise before removing the quick release coupling - an hour spent washing out the scuttle to prevent the fluid eating the paint is no fun) did a great job.

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

124 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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if youve got a nice car id take zero chances. just before pressuring the kit I would cover the engine bay and the wings plus front end with large old rags or towels or old bits of carpet (that havent previously been used to mop up brake fluid!). id also wrap an old tea towel around the fluid bottle with enough to the cover the lid so if it all does go pop you wont get any on the paint or the engine......i dont even think 30 seconds is too short a time to cause damage maybe 5-10 seconds id suggest damage occurs to the finish whih might be lifted with cutting compound. i still keep the bucket of water to hand with sponge just in case.

rxe

6,700 posts

102 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Vincefox said:
Hate to be a pain, but if you have chance could you point me to a link or pic of the kind of thing you mean please?

I know I'm going to buy the kit do do this somehow but want to make sure I go for the best solution for me. I had the car resprayed a couple of years ago and the thought of one letting go of a litre of fluid at 30psi during a bleed is a little offputting.
This is the new version of mine:

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cht637-air-...


Josho

748 posts

96 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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I use pressure all the time. Way better than vacuum.

I've got this one
https://rover.ebay.co.uk/rover/1/710-134428-41853-...

Lovely machine but I ended up buying OP one as it's so much easier.

Vincefox

Original Poster:

20,566 posts

171 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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rxe said:
Vincefox said:
Hate to be a pain, but if you have chance could you point me to a link or pic of the kind of thing you mean please?

I know I'm going to buy the kit do do this somehow but want to make sure I go for the best solution for me. I had the car resprayed a couple of years ago and the thought of one letting go of a litre of fluid at 30psi during a bleed is a little offputting.
This is the new version of mine:

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cht637-air-...
Thanks for that, much appreciated smile

helix402

7,832 posts

181 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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I have one of these, had it for years and it works a treat:



Lots of UK suppliers sell similar items.