what type of connectors are these and how to make them?

what type of connectors are these and how to make them?

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Adam32

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138 posts

98 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Does anyone know what type of connectors these are and how to make them? Are they DuPont connectors? There appears to be a serial number on the last picture, but can't find any info on it.

Plus do I need a special crimping tool for these such as the Engineer pa-09 shown here:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/universal-micro-crimping-...








bearman68

4,652 posts

132 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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If I'm understanding the question correctly.

1) Those connection blocks are usually call multi plugs, and are used to connect many wires quickly and accurately into the an ECU (usually).
2) You can buy 'blank' multiplugs from a small handful of suppliers. They are not easy to get, and expensive when you do.
3) It's usual to buy the wires already attached to a small connector clip, that fit into the multiplug, and locks in place. They lock in place to ensure a solid connection with the ECU pin, but this makes it almost impossible to remove them.

Probably a more important question,is what are you trying to do?

GreenV8S

30,186 posts

284 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Hard to get a sense of scale from the pics - what's the pin spacing? If you also have the male counterpart, what is the pin size?

Adam32

Original Poster:

138 posts

98 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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bearman68 said:
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2) You can buy 'blank' multiplugs from a small handful of suppliers. They are not easy to get, and expensive when you do.
3) It's usual to buy the wires already attached to a small connector clip, that fit into the multiplug, and locks in place. They lock in place to ensure a solid connection with the ECU pin, but this makes it almost impossible to remove them.
I thought they were relatively cheap, as i thought you just buy the housings and crimp the wires. They should then just push in. These are a different design of housing, but similar concept:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aussel-Connector-Housing-...

On the crimping tool I linked to it shows an example of housing and pins:



I just need to find the housing as shown in my photographs.

bearman68 said:
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You can buy 'blank' multiplugs from a small handful of suppliers.
Any ideas where to buy the once's shown in my photos?





Edited by Adam32 on Tuesday 18th July 07:56

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Manufactured by AMP Part number 10769

I can't find this on the net, you will need to contact a supplier of AMP connectors

Adam32

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138 posts

98 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Penelope Stopit said:
Manufactured by AMP Part number 10769

I can't find this on the net, you will need to contact a supplier of AMP connectors
Well this is the manufacturers website, but can't find any that look like this. Maybe they have been discontinued?

http://www.te.com/usa-en/home.html

JohnMcL

145 posts

143 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Try sending your photos to people like
https://www.simtekuk.co.uk/index.php/home/?k=:1::
or
www.cartekmotorsport.com
or
any of the wiring loom manufacturers on the cartek dealers page.

Edited by JohnMcL on Tuesday 18th July 09:52

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Adam32 said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Manufactured by AMP Part number 10769

I can't find this on the net, you will need to contact a supplier of AMP connectors
Well this is the manufacturers website, but can't find any that look like this. Maybe they have been discontinued?

http://www.te.com/usa-en/home.html
Bought out

www.amp.com goes to http://www.te.com/global-en/products/connectors.ht...

Take a look at this PDF, you may find something of interest
https://www.connectorpeople.com/library/sealed_con...

gtsjon

3 posts

149 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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They look like the connectors used on 90's Toyotas. Available from www.mouser.com, Mouser part no. 571-174516-6 for the 26 way connector.
The range of connectors are called TE Connectivity .040/.070 MULTILOCK Series Automotive Connectors.


paintman

7,682 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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The big one looks like this link so you might have a word with the seller about the others:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DEFENDER-10AS-Alarm-Cent...

Might help if we knew what vehicle they're on.

ETA. This looks like one of the others:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DEFENDER-TD5-Instrument-...



Edited by paintman on Wednesday 26th July 09:00

Adam32

Original Poster:

138 posts

98 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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paintman said:
The big one looks like this link so you might have a word with the seller about the others:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DEFENDER-10AS-Alarm-Cent...

Might help if we knew what vehicle they're on.

ETA. This looks like one of the others:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DEFENDER-TD5-Instrument-...



Edited by paintman on Wednesday 26th July 09:00
Thanks for this info. The large one certainly looks identical to it. I think I will contact the seller.

Adam32

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138 posts

98 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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gtsjon said:
They look like the connectors used on 90's Toyotas. Available from www.mouser.com, Mouser part no. 571-174516-6 for the 26 way connector.
The range of connectors are called TE Connectivity .040/.070 MULTILOCK Series Automotive Connectors.
Thanks for this, it's really good info. Out of interest which 90s Toyotas were you thinking of?

I think the Mouser part no 571-174516-6 may very well be the larger one. Do you happen to know the part numbers for the smaller ones as well? I tried the search engine on the Mouser page, but it does not seem to be working on my computer.


gtsjon

3 posts

149 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Adam32 said:
Thanks for this, it's really good info. Out of interest which 90s Toyotas were you thinking of?
Corolla, Celica, MR2, Camry... They all used the the same range of connectors. The non-turbo ECUs have 4 connectors, which include the 3 in your photo. Also some Hondas and Mazdas pre-OBD II use the same range of connectors.

Adam32 said:
I think the Mouser part no 571-174516-6 may very well be the larger one. Do you happen to know the part numbers for the smaller ones as well? I tried the search engine on the Mouser page, but it does not seem to be working on my computer.
The part numbers I have for Mouser are:

ECU plug 26 AMP 571-174516-6
ECU plug22 AMP 571-174515-6
ECU plug16 AMP 571-174514-6
0.70 Terminals AMP 571-173631-2
0.40 Terminals AMP 571-175061-1

The 12 pin plug isn't stocked at Mouser.

Removing pins from the connector is easy once you know how, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I5wTcWD_DQ

gtsjon

3 posts

149 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Connectors also available in the UK at RS http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/connectors/pcb-conne...

Adam32

Original Poster:

138 posts

98 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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gtsjon said:
Connectors also available in the UK at RS http://uk.rs-online.com/web/c/connectors/pcb-conne...
Thanks for that. They also seem to stock the 12 pin connector. Do you know if it is possible to get male to female converters for these plugs? The only female connectors I see for these connectors are for soldering to PCB.