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Digby

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8,237 posts

246 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Bit of an odd one.

On my wee Acty van (550cc), I can leave the old girl sitting for several weeks, open the garage, turn the key and she fires up instantly.

Drive it for a few miles so it is up to temp, turn it off and it will again fire instantly (i,e popping to local petrol station etc)

Drive for say, 30 mins or more, turn it off and it will turn over and over approx ten or so times before firing.

Drive the same distance or more and leave it for the entire day (at a car show for example) and once again, at the end of the day, it will turn over ten or so times before firing even though it may have sat for ten hours.

Drive it home, stick it in the garage, come back to it several days / weeks later and it fires up first turn of the key once again.

Can't say I have ever experienced that.

I have experienced hot start issues and cold start issues, but never anything like this.

It always starts, but is rather annoying.

Anyone had anything similar?

Mignon

1,018 posts

89 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Possibly a dodgy coolant temperature sensor giving it an overly rich mixture.

Digby

Original Poster:

8,237 posts

246 months

Wednesday 30th August 2017
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Had crossed my mind, but would have thought an entire day not running would be very similar in terms of sensors and temps etc as being left for days / weeks.

GreenV8S

30,192 posts

284 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Are you using exactly the same starting technique each time? For example, I usually wait for the fuel pump prime to complete before I crank the engine over, but might skip that if I'm in a hurry. If there's something you're doing differently, perhaps without consciously thinking about it, it might prevent the immediate firing up in some situations but not in others.

The Wookie

13,946 posts

228 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Vapour lock that settles after a more extended period of time? Would make sense as I'd imagine the engine bay temps are quite high in a cab over engine layout

Either that or a leggy fuel pump with an odd behaviour or crud in the fuel system somewhere (either tank or filter) that gets stirred up with use and settles down after an extended period of time but you'd expect running issues.

Edited by The Wookie on Thursday 31st August 14:17

Digby

Original Poster:

8,237 posts

246 months

Saturday 9th September 2017
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Sorry for the delay in replying.

Yes, using same method to start.

Vapour lock has now been mentioned by someone else. That could also explain why on shorter trips it's not getting hot enough to cause this, but on extended runs, thrashing itself to pieces, it is suffering.

My friend said on one of his Dads old cars, they had to wrap fuel lines in similar stuff you put on manifolds which cured it.

Maybe that's the way forward.

Thanks for the input, chaps! smile

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Saturday 9th September 2017
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Depending where the fuel pipes run (i.e. how hot is it getting?) it might be worth trying some cheap pipe insulation rather than going full-hog on pricier stuff, it only has to last 30 mins...

Digby

Original Poster:

8,237 posts

246 months

Saturday 9th September 2017
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Krikkit said:
Depending where the fuel pipes run (i.e. how hot is it getting?) it might be worth trying some cheap pipe insulation rather than going full-hog on pricier stuff, it only has to last 30 mins...
Not a bad shout! Especially as we sell a great deal of it at work, including heat-resistant types. beer