BMW E36 Control Arm to Sway Bar End Link - Lollipop stuck on

BMW E36 Control Arm to Sway Bar End Link - Lollipop stuck on

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Percent

Original Poster:

136 posts

97 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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I started to replace my from right control arm today and have encountered a problem.

The bolt from below the control arm which secures the lollipop sway link turns but the other end of that bolt also turns with it which means I cannot remove it

The first image shows the bracket, this has a normal bolt securing it in place [not shown in the image]
As I unbolt that bolt the circular bit spins as I try to unbolt. How can I get this out?










Edited by Percent on Saturday 11th November 22:06

tumble dryer

2,016 posts

127 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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Percent said:
I started to replace my from right control arm today and have encountered a problem.

The bolt from below the control arm which secures the lollipop sway link turns but the other end of that bolt also turns with it which means I cannot remove it

The first image shows the bracket, this has a normal bolt securing it in place [not shown in the image]
As I unbolt that bolt the circular bit spins as I try to unbolt. How can I get this out?










Edited by Percent on Saturday 11th November 22:06
To help understand, the bit that spins that shouldn't, looks as though there's been an attempt at a spot weld (failed!), and that's why it's spinning. Yes? (I'm asking the obvious to get to a solution, honest. smile )

GreenV8S

30,194 posts

284 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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Is it actually a bolt, or a welded stud as shown in the pictures? If it's a bolt with a hex head you could jam a flat bladed screwdriver between the bolt head and the side of that bracket.

I'm not clear why you're trying to remove the bracket, though. If your goal is to remove the drop link, isn't it essentially free once you remove the cross bolt which you have obviously already loosened?

Percent

Original Poster:

136 posts

97 months

Saturday 11th November 2017
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Thanks for the reply. I am replacing the entire control arm and also the stabiliser. Unfortunately, it seems to be some kind of welded on stud and not a bolt so I cannot do the screwdriver trick.

Maybe I could try and remove the top nut on the stabiliser then the entire control arm, once the arms off would I be able to somehow remove that stabiliser bracket from the old arm?

GreenV8S

30,194 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Not quite following which parts you are aiming to replace, but if you need to remove that bracket then there are a few options you could consider:

Tack weld the broken stud back to the bracket.
Pad saw the side off the flange that was supposed to be welded to the bracket so that you have a flat surface to wedge a screwdriver against.
Grind through the nut and stud.

Still not following why you need to do this, but if you're replacing that arm anyway then obviously you will be removing it from the vehicle. Removing the bracket would be much easier with good access. But these options would all need you to replace the bracket anyway, so still I don't see why you'd have any reason to remove the old bracket from the old arm.

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Weld it back on.

Percent

Original Poster:

136 posts

97 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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GreenV8S said:
Not quite following which parts you are aiming to replace, but if you need to remove that bracket then there are a few options you could consider:

Tack weld the broken stud back to the bracket.
Pad saw the side off the flange that was supposed to be welded to the bracket so that you have a flat surface to wedge a screwdriver against.
Grind through the nut and stud.

Still not following why you need to do this, but if you're replacing that arm anyway then obviously you will be removing it from the vehicle. Removing the bracket would be much easier with good access. But these options would all need you to replace the bracket anyway, so still I don't see why you'd have any reason to remove the old bracket from the old arm.
I was hoping to remove it only because that tiny bracket is £30 for some reason. I also don't have a welder.

Mignon

1,018 posts

89 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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Maybe I'm missing something but I still don't see why you need to remove the bracket to change the bushing.

If you are really determined to though then remove the bushing so you have access to the bolt that spins and get a pair of mole grips on the head of it. They should hold it tightly enough to remove the nut from underneath. Then take it somewhere for it to be tack welded back in place.

E-bmw

9,217 posts

152 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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It sounds like you pretty much have 2 choices.

1. Weld it back to the bracket, alas I am guessing that it will be rusted so only gas welding is going to work on rusty metal.

2. Get out the angle grinder & just take off the nut/end of the stud.

helix402

7,859 posts

182 months

Sunday 12th November 2017
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No 2. Sorted.