Oil change pump @ Lidl

Oil change pump @ Lidl

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Dr Doofenshmirtz

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15,220 posts

200 months

Monday 12th February 2018
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https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/Non-Food-Offers.htm?arti...
I personally don't really see the point of these, but some people seem to like them so thought I'd give a quick heads up.


brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Monday 12th February 2018
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/Non-Food-Offers.htm?arti...
I personally don't really see the point of these, but some people seem to like them so thought I'd give a quick heads up.

I got one of these the last time they were on sale. Brilliant wee pump, does everything one costing 10 times as much would.

Evanivitch

20,034 posts

122 months

Monday 12th February 2018
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Used mine of a Skabia 1.9TDi for 60,000 miles of ownership and oil changes every 10,000 miles. Absolutely great device meant I could do oil and filter change without ever jacking the car up.

finishing touch

808 posts

167 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Surely these should be called a "Partial Oil Change Pump".


Paul G

t400ble

1,804 posts

121 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Some cars dont have sump plugs

Some Smart cars for example

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Evanivitch said:
Used mine of a Skabia 1.9TDi for 60,000 miles of ownership and oil changes every 10,000 miles. Absolutely great device meant I could do oil and filter change without ever jacking the car up.
When I do an oil change the first stuff to come out of the sump plug hole contain numerous bits, metal shavings etc. The next 90% of the oil looks fine and I sometimes wonder why I'm changing it.

This device will effectively remove the good stuff and leave all the bits on the floor alone to add to the new oil. Surely its the very opposite of a beneficial oil change.

Evanivitch

20,034 posts

122 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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julian64 said:
When I do an oil change the first stuff to come out of the sump plug hole contain numerous bits, metal shavings etc. The next 90% of the oil looks fine and I sometimes wonder why I'm changing it.

This device will effectively remove the good stuff and leave all the bits on the floor alone to add to the new oil. Surely its the very opposite of a beneficial oil change.
If you've got metal shavings in your oil then you have far bigger issues.

Good oil suspends the impurities and doesn't just deposit it in a gloop at the bottom of the sump.

It's quite easy to measure what you've removed to ensure you've done a good job, you just pump it into an old oil container.

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Evanivitch said:
If you've got metal shavings in your oil then you have far bigger issues.

Good oil suspends the impurities and doesn't just deposit it in a gloop at the bottom of the sump.

It's quite easy to measure what you've removed to ensure you've done a good job, you just pump it into an old oil container.
Indeed. I've done countless oil changes on my cars - never once has anything other than just oil come out.
If you've got lots of pieces /shavings etc in the sump then you've got big problems ahead!

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Evanivitch said:
julian64 said:
When I do an oil change the first stuff to come out of the sump plug hole contain numerous bits, metal shavings etc. The next 90% of the oil looks fine and I sometimes wonder why I'm changing it.

This device will effectively remove the good stuff and leave all the bits on the floor alone to add to the new oil. Surely its the very opposite of a beneficial oil change.
If you've got metal shavings in your oil then you have far bigger issues.

Good oil suspends the impurities and doesn't just deposit it in a gloop at the bottom of the sump.

It's quite easy to measure what you've removed to ensure you've done a good job, you just pump it into an old oil container.
^^ This, you need a new engine matey.

Other uses for this could be sucking out the fluid from any other reservoir under the bonnet. At the price it's worth a punt so thanks for the link, I don't mind buying cheap tools if they are non essential.

StuTheGrouch

5,729 posts

162 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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So these are good, are they?

I was looking to buy a £50 pump from Screwfix for the same job, but if this one will do the trick then I ought to buy it.


227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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StuTheGrouch said:
So these are good, are they?

I was looking to buy a £50 pump from Screwfix for the same job, but if this one will do the trick then I ought to buy it.
Not necessarily, but it's £13 and has a 3ry warranty.

Evanivitch

20,034 posts

122 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Should mention that it is normally powered by directly connecting to car battery. So if your battery is not in your engine bay then you might have an issue.

StuTheGrouch

5,729 posts

162 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Evanivitch said:
Should mention that it is normally powered by directly connecting to car battery. So if your battery is not in your engine bay then you might have an issue.
Not a problem for my wife's car, which is what I intended it for. Would be an issue for mine, but then the oil filter on mine is next to the sump plug so I'd need to crawl underneath mine regardless.

russell_ram

321 posts

231 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Speed pump?

0.2L/min

That'll be 20 + mins at least then, even longer for cold oil - not exactly 'speedy'. LOL

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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DuraAce said:
Evanivitch said:
If you've got metal shavings in your oil then you have far bigger issues.

Good oil suspends the impurities and doesn't just deposit it in a gloop at the bottom of the sump.

It's quite easy to measure what you've removed to ensure you've done a good job, you just pump it into an old oil container.
Indeed. I've done countless oil changes on my cars - never once has anything other than just oil come out.
If you've got lots of pieces /shavings etc in the sump then you've got big problems ahead!
Nah, never changed oil on any car without finding iron filings around the sump plug. Some plugs are even magnetic and have filings adherent to them

Its a large engine of intermeshing cogs and gears, and when it starts they are all dry.. Obviously large amounts are indicative of a problem, but some amount is normal. If there wasn't any how do engines wear out?

Oil doesn't keep iron filings in suspension. drop some iron filings, as small as you like in a jam jar of oil and leave overnight. I bet they won't be in suspension.in the morning..

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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julian64 said:
Nah, never changed oil on any car without finding iron filings around the sump plug. Some plugs are even magnetic and have filings adherent to them

Its a large engine of intermeshing cogs and gears, and when it starts they are all dry.. Obviously large amounts are indicative of a problem, but some amount is normal. If there wasn't any how do engines wear out?

Oil doesn't keep iron filings in suspension. drop some iron filings, as small as you like in a jam jar of oil and leave overnight. I bet they won't be in suspension.in the morning..
I think your knowledge of what goes on inside an engine is somewhat lacking, you seem to think a sump pan resembles an engineer's machine shop floor on a Friday eve for some reason.

GreenV8S

30,186 posts

284 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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julian64 said:
when it starts they are all dry
No they aren't. If you switch your engine off and dismantle it ten years later you'll find all the bearing surfaces still covered in a film of oil. You never, ever normally run an engine with dry bearings and if you did they would be destroyed very quickly.

julian64 said:
iron filings ... some amount is normal. If there wasn't any how do engines wear out?
Engines normally wear out by microscopic particles being worn away gradually and carried off in suspension in the oil. That's why we have oil filters to remove them There is a whole industry of oil analysts who will examine an oil sample to work out what is happening to the machinery it came from.

julian64 said:
Oil doesn't keep iron filings in suspension
There shouldn't be any iron filings to keep in suspension. The metal will normally be in the form of microscopic particles which do remain in suspension.

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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julian64 said:
Nah, never changed oil on any car without finding iron filings around the sump plug. Some plugs are even magnetic and have filings adherent to them

Its a large engine of intermeshing cogs and gears, and when it starts they are all dry.. Obviously large amounts are indicative of a problem, but some amount is normal. If there wasn't any how do engines wear out?

Oil doesn't keep iron filings in suspension. drop some iron filings, as small as you like in a jam jar of oil and leave overnight. I bet they won't be in suspension.in the morning..
Eh? You can't be talking about any 'normal' mainstream production car from the last 15/20 years?
What cars /engines are you pulling swarf from the sumps?

Are you confusing gearboxes and engines? As there are no intermeshing cogs (save perhaps oil pumps in some) in my car engines. Lots of boxes have magnetic plugs as they have no filters. Can't say I have seen lots of magnetic plugs in sumps (combined engine/box sumps like the A series being one exception), though I appreciate there will be some out there.
I've changed oil in at least, 30 of our family cars over the years - none have swarf in the sump.

I use a pela vacuum pump. I've dropped the sump after vacuuming a few times, there is nothing left in the sump. No oil. No bits of metal.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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julian64 said:
When I do an oil change the first stuff to come out of the sump plug hole contain numerous bits, metal shavings etc.
You have far more to worry about than incomplete oil changes since there is clearly something wrong with your engine.

Dogwatch

6,226 posts

222 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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t400ble said:
Some cars dont have sump plugs

Some Smart cars for example
Doesn't sound too smart!

Surprised at Mercedes.