Oil change pump @ Lidl
Discussion
V6Pushfit said:
The BMC A Series where the gearbox and engine oil are the same - use a tube down the dipstick?
The Austin 1100/1300’s had a magnet on the sump bolt and always has swarf on it.
What don’t people get that not all cars are less that 15 years old. I took off and cleaned out a Crossflow sump last year that had treacle in the bottom and the remains of two cam followers.
If I did it for a living and maintained other people’s cars then yes i’d consider a pump but on my own stuff - no way!
The vast majority of cars are newer than 15 years old, and if you are running a classic that needs special treatment then you should know about it. Your argument doesn't mean that oil vacuum pumps should not be used in general, so what point are you trying to make?The Austin 1100/1300’s had a magnet on the sump bolt and always has swarf on it.
What don’t people get that not all cars are less that 15 years old. I took off and cleaned out a Crossflow sump last year that had treacle in the bottom and the remains of two cam followers.
If I did it for a living and maintained other people’s cars then yes i’d consider a pump but on my own stuff - no way!
julian64 said:
Yep after this I realise I'm never going to believe that sucking from the top is an adequate method of a decent oil change. Its simply laziness to my way of thinking, and this thread is just pushing me further to that conclusion.
Since you staunchly defend other clearly ridiculous beliefs (e.g. that hearing protection is useless 
) then I suspect you aren't going to change the minds of people that currently use them with no problems at all.julian64 said:
I'd be knocking money off any car I went to buy second hand if the owner talked about doing his own oil changes this way.
Similarly, I'd be knocking money off if the seller told me he felt it was important to drain via the sump plug because it was necessary to flush the metal chips out of the sump.GreenV8S said:
Similarly, I'd be knocking money off if the seller told me he felt it was important to drain via the sump plug because it was necessary to flush the metal chips out of the sump.
Each to their own. I would pay less for the pump change as it shows a seller couldn't give a toss and wont know any early warning signs of issues 
te on a magnetic plug to see what can lurk buggalugs said:
V6Pushfit said:
Each to their own. I would pay less for the pump change as it shows a seller couldn't give a toss and wont know any early warning signs of issues
Which technique do you think garages and dealerships prefer these days?V6Pushfit said:
^ agreed but if you were doing an oil change on someone else’s car then it doesn’t matter, as it saves ten minutes 
Disregarding crossflows, A series pushrods with combined engine/gearbox sumps and every other old skip made more than 15/20 years ago then does anyone have any evidence of 'bits' in the oil during a change?
I haven't.
Surely if you drop the oil on a 3 yr old 5 series you can't really expect to find stuff floating around the sump can you?
Bits in the oil during a change on a modern, maintained motor = imminent engine failure IMHO.
I haven't.
Surely if you drop the oil on a 3 yr old 5 series you can't really expect to find stuff floating around the sump can you?
Bits in the oil during a change on a modern, maintained motor = imminent engine failure IMHO.
I'm neither here nor there on the best method however I tend to go for the up on ramps / sump plug / catching basin as I generally whip the front wheels off too and so whilst the oil is draining, have a quick eye ball under the car for any issues that may be slowly manifesting, have a check of the brake wear, check the suspension parts and if it's outside and time allows, sometimes give it a good steam clean to get rid of the past 5k worth of grime.
Dogwatch said:
t400ble said:
Some cars dont have sump plugs
Some Smart cars for example
Doesn't sound too smart!Some Smart cars for example
Surprised at Mercedes.
A good many years ago I heard that Vauxhall had ceased providing drain plugs on the rear axles of their RWD models. I then started noticing some cars running around with very noisy final drive units - most of them seemed to be Vauxhalls.
I appreciate that gearbox and final drive oil doesn't suffer contamination from the products of combustion in the way engine oil does; but to me it still seems preferable to change the oil periodically.
p1esk said:
Hmm, I must say I don't like the idea of having no drain plug.
A good many years ago I heard that Vauxhall had ceased providing drain plugs on the rear axles of their RWD models. I then started noticing some cars running around with very noisy final drive units - most of them seemed to be Vauxhalls.
I appreciate that gearbox and final drive oil doesn't suffer contamination from the products of combustion in the way engine oil does; but to me it still seems preferable to change the oil periodically.
Because they're seen as 'non maintenance' items, ie the manufacturer would prefer to see customers but a new one A good many years ago I heard that Vauxhall had ceased providing drain plugs on the rear axles of their RWD models. I then started noticing some cars running around with very noisy final drive units - most of them seemed to be Vauxhalls.
I appreciate that gearbox and final drive oil doesn't suffer contamination from the products of combustion in the way engine oil does; but to me it still seems preferable to change the oil periodically.
I’ve got one.
Used it on three different cars so far
80k 70k and 127k
Nothing’s gone wrong, nothings broke,
perhaps the doom mongers would do well to remember every time boat inboard engine oil needs changing they don’t cut it out and drain it they use one of these
This question is as popular on here as ditchfinders
(My answer to that one is the best A rated wet tyre from a popular male, because that’s when they earn their money)
Used it on three different cars so far
80k 70k and 127k
Nothing’s gone wrong, nothings broke,
perhaps the doom mongers would do well to remember every time boat inboard engine oil needs changing they don’t cut it out and drain it they use one of these
This question is as popular on here as ditchfinders
(My answer to that one is the best A rated wet tyre from a popular male, because that’s when they earn their money)
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