Blind hole thread repair options
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I've got a Triumph TR6 and a blind tapped hole in the cast iron cylinder head that is used to mount the thermostat and waterpump housing is damaged from a previous owner's ham-fisted efforts. The blind tapped hole is about 12-15mm deep but has been 'wobbled' out so that when you turn the bolt in, the bolt wobbles in the threaded hole and doesn't tighten until the last couple of turns. The threads aren't too bad form-wise, but I think if I try and apply the correct torque then the threads may strip.
The cylinder head is still on the engine block.
Would a 'heli-coil' insert work in this case?
I also thought about replacing the bolt with a threaded stud Red Loctited in.
Words of experience welcome.
The cylinder head is still on the engine block.
Would a 'heli-coil' insert work in this case?
I also thought about replacing the bolt with a threaded stud Red Loctited in.
Words of experience welcome.
It's easy to cut new threads in your cylinder head, as the cast iron is self-lubricating. A 3/8" taper tap will start in the old, worn 5/16" hole, you may need a bottoming tap unless you choose the length of bolt you will use to be short enough to sit in the length of fully formed thread from the taper.
You will need a tap holder, to drive the tap, liberally grease the lands of the tap, to capture the swarf, and withdraw and clean it frequently, replacing the grease. When sufficiently deep, clean out the hole and threads with a solvent, and if possible an airline blast, or just squirt WD40 into the hole repeatedly!
The hole in the fitting, the thermosat/water pump housing, will need to be drilled out too, to accomodate the larger bolt, but there is plenaty of 'meat' in it for that!
Good luck!
John
You will need a tap holder, to drive the tap, liberally grease the lands of the tap, to capture the swarf, and withdraw and clean it frequently, replacing the grease. When sufficiently deep, clean out the hole and threads with a solvent, and if possible an airline blast, or just squirt WD40 into the hole repeatedly!
The hole in the fitting, the thermosat/water pump housing, will need to be drilled out too, to accomodate the larger bolt, but there is plenaty of 'meat' in it for that!
Good luck!
John
Thanks for all the comments. Here’s a photo of the hole. Not much to see really. The engine is out of the car and on a stand so access isn’t a problem.
I’m actually in the US. A 5/16 UNF helicoil kit is about £30 it seems. Thanks for the heads up on a bottoming tap too, but can I use a regular bottoming tap with a heli coil because the heli coil tap is a slightly different size than a standard 5/16 UNF tap correct?
So, it’s heli coil vs open up to 3/8 UNF. Hmm. For no reason other than the sake of originality I’m leaning towards a helicoil for the same thread size. I’ll have to see on the availability and cost on the options.
I’m actually in the US. A 5/16 UNF helicoil kit is about £30 it seems. Thanks for the heads up on a bottoming tap too, but can I use a regular bottoming tap with a heli coil because the heli coil tap is a slightly different size than a standard 5/16 UNF tap correct?
So, it’s heli coil vs open up to 3/8 UNF. Hmm. For no reason other than the sake of originality I’m leaning towards a helicoil for the same thread size. I’ll have to see on the availability and cost on the options.
Edited by geeman237 on Friday 23 October 14:32
You may find that the diameter of the hole where the thread is stripped, will accept the wire insert tap without having to drill it
You’ll also need to know what depth of wire insert you need? They should be listed as 1D, 1.5D, 2D etc. The ‘D’ signifying diameter, for instance, a 10mm x 1D, is a 10mm deep/long insert.
You’ll also need to know what depth of wire insert you need? They should be listed as 1D, 1.5D, 2D etc. The ‘D’ signifying diameter, for instance, a 10mm x 1D, is a 10mm deep/long insert.
Thanks for all the top tips. I went down the Heli Coil route as that was readily available to me. I ended up having to do 2 holes. The first one went well, the second I had to carefully re=tap for the insert as I went in a little off centre.
Waterpump/thermostat housing now fitted. Fingers crossed. Now to re-install the engine and get it running again.
Waterpump/thermostat housing now fitted. Fingers crossed. Now to re-install the engine and get it running again.
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