Dear Lorry Drivers

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ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

248 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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europhil said:
Super Slo Mo said:
Cars outnumber trucks by more than 70:1, unless we're only talking about the tt:tt ratio, but even then, I'd wager it was a greater ratio than 10:1.
90% of vehicles on uk roads are cars. 6% are trucks. the other 4% is made up of all other vehicles.
ok, i was bored one day, and this bit of crap stayed in my head.
They never did their study at the Dartford crossing then biggrin

kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

209 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Gaz. said:
bqf said:
GC8 said:
Be quiet.
Heres an instruction for you - get fked
Find some manners or find another forum to pollute.
To be fair to the OP I think the "be quiet" post was quite provocative and very patronising.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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May I nominate the truck who pulled out to overtake another lorry as we approached the Ringwood flyover yesterday morning?

I was approaching them at ~70 and as it was 0600 there was a mahoosive gap behind me in which he could have started his "manouevre". But no, he had to pull out - obviously with only the briefest of indicates once he'd already started moving - when I was close enough to have to brake sharply.

He then spent the whole of Poulner Hill trying to even get level with the other lorry before realising it was futile near the top of the hill, by which time both lorries had dropped to about 45, and pulled back in again.

Gigantic tt.

Pixelpeep

8,600 posts

141 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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A thread like this was never gonna end well was it.

Feel for HGV's - i had a slight insight into their world when driving a massively underpowered bucket truck based on the old Renault Master - it would take you 10 miles to build up to motorway speed and by the time you are there you DO NOT wanna give it up for anyone. Over taking has to be done (within reason) as soon as humanly possible.. if you have to lift off, it's going to take you another 5 miles to build up the speed.

then you get the people that fly past you, then you end up catching them up, pull out to overtake and all of a sudden they decide that they don't want you in front of them so they speed up.. leaving you hanging with the next thing in lane one filling your previous position.


martin mrt

3,768 posts

200 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Thank fk my truck does 58mph, if I want to pass another HGV, it causes a minimum disruption to any other road users.

No elephant racing in this house.

R0G

4,984 posts

154 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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This whole situation is daft when you think about it - we spend years building more powerful trucks and then accept limiters being put on them !!

Exit the EU = exit limiters

kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

209 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Gaz. said:
kentmotorcompany said:
Gaz. said:
bqf said:
GC8 said:
Be quiet.
Heres an instruction for you - get fked
Find some manners or find another forum to pollute.
To be fair to the OP I think the "be quiet" post was quite provocative and very patronising.
Agreed but the response was still below the bar expected.
Do you work for PH then?

bqf

Original Poster:

2,226 posts

170 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Gaz. said:
Agreed but the response was still below the bar expected.
'the bar expected' - who are you exactly? some sort of 'internet manners' policeman? rolleyes

'Be Quiet' will usually extract a compelling response, I think you'll find.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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bqf said:
'the bar expected' - who are you exactly? some sort of 'internet manners' policeman? rolleyes

'Be Quiet' will usually extract a compelling response, I think you'll find.
In some ways he is

Talking to Gaz like that will earn you a binning. I think you'll find

Humper

946 posts

161 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Is it just me thinking the initials bqf should stand for " be quiet, fool"........

reckless st

178 posts

206 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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since this topic continues to escalate my view as a proffesional driver is
1)the days of proffesional drivers are diminishing because drivers of today only take these jobs because they have lost thier original jobs so do this as a 2nd or 3rd option
2)training is inadequate
3)companies treat drivers as third class citizens you pay peanuts you get monkeys..hence the lack of proffesionalism in this sector
4) no proffesionalism equals drivers of today dont give f**k for any other road users
this is just my opinion being one of a dying breed of professionals

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

162 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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OP Bore off will you.

BTW the M26 is not 20 miles long.

HTH.

Hooli

32,278 posts

199 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Gaz. said:
kentmotorcompany said:
Do you work for PH then?
I've been a mod for 7 years. I wouldn't call it work though.
It's a shame PH has nothing to mark you as such, it would be handy to know if it's a mod or just a busybody telling people what to do.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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reckless st said:
since this topic continues to escalate my view as a proffesional driver is
1)the days of proffesional drivers are diminishing because drivers of today only take these jobs because they have lost thier original jobs so do this as a 2nd or 3rd option
2)training is inadequate
3)companies treat drivers as third class citizens you pay peanuts you get monkeys..hence the lack of proffesionalism in this sector
4) no proffesionalism equals drivers of today dont give f**k for any other road users
this is just my opinion being one of a dying breed of professionals
This is something that am not sure was ever there, knights of the road etc. I wonder if the increasing traffic loads push us all together and peoples perceptions were never there in reality as we get a closer view? Maybe a few years ago there were less wagons and this issue was not as visible.

Wonder what the pay rates are, the recent tanker dispute showed us that some driver on on a good whack. (I did say some, not all or the majority before I beaten to death with a Yorkie). Certainly a life on the road may not be for all people but I know a few that like it.

With regards training, never done any myself but observations of a lot of drivers (car and lorry) in a lot of circumstances indicates what ever test they took, they have forgotten or neglect to take note of. Don't think that is a singular fault.


Either way, back on topic. I find it easier to sit back and chill out when this happens to me. There are so many other muppets on the road, this is a small thing in comparison when I think of the end result, which is stuff on the shelves when I want it.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

248 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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My view on a professional driver - someone that has amassed a certain amount of experience and still admits to learning. Also someone that can deal with an oncoming situation with a level head, putting them in total control of their situation.

One thing that amazes me, is the amount of drivers, of all types of vehicles, who keep their foot firmly planted on the accelerator pedal when a situation ahead of them is starting to develop.

bebee

4,678 posts

224 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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bqf said:
When on the 2-lane, 20 mile long M26, do not pull out to overtake another lorry, and spend 8 miles doing so, you daft tt. If you are traveling at 55.5 mph, and the vehicle you want to overtaken is travelling at 55.25mph, just BACK OFF A BIT.

Also, if you are the lorry being overtaken, BACK OFF A BIT, and you will help to avoid an 8 mile tailback on the M26, and a great deal of horn blowing and general abuse from other road users, you cretinous tt.

Many thanks.
Am I missing something here? Tell me I'm thick please but if they both 'BACK OFF A BIT' won't that take longer and be counter productive in the overtake manoeuvre? scratchchin

R0G

4,984 posts

154 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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bebee said:
bqf said:
When on the 2-lane, 20 mile long M26, do not pull out to overtake another lorry, and spend 8 miles doing so, you daft tt. If you are traveling at 55.5 mph, and the vehicle you want to overtaken is travelling at 55.25mph, just BACK OFF A BIT.

Also, if you are the lorry being overtaken, BACK OFF A BIT, and you will help to avoid an 8 mile tailback on the M26, and a great deal of horn blowing and general abuse from other road users, you cretinous tt.

Many thanks.
Am I missing something here? Tell me I'm thick please but if they both 'BACK OFF A BIT' won't that take longer and be counter productive in the overtake manoeuvre? scratchchin
You are missing it - He is saying that the driver intending to pass could ease off a bit and not overtake or the one being overtaken could back off a bit

reckless st

178 posts

206 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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jmorgan said:
reckless st said:
since this topic continues to escalate my view as a proffesional driver is
1)the days of proffesional drivers are diminishing because drivers of today only take these jobs because they have lost thier original jobs so do this as a 2nd or 3rd option
2)training is inadequate
3)companies treat drivers as third class citizens you pay peanuts you get monkeys..hence the lack of proffesionalism in this sector
4) no proffesionalism equals drivers of today dont give f**k for any other road users
this is just my opinion being one of a dying breed of professionals
This is something that am not sure was ever there, knights of the road etc. I wonder if the increasing traffic loads push us all together and peoples perceptions were never there in reality as we get a closer view? Maybe a few years ago there were less wagons and this issue was not as visible.

Wonder what the pay rates are, the recent tanker dispute showed us that some driver on on a good whack. (I did say some, not all or the majority before I beaten to death with a Yorkie). Certainly a life on the road may not be for all people but I know a few that like it.

With regards training, never done any myself but observations of a lot of drivers (car and lorry) in a lot of circumstances indicates what ever test they took, they have forgotten or neglect to take note of. Don't think that is a singular fault.


Either way, back on topic. I find it easier to sit back and chill out when this happens to me. There are so many other muppets on the road, this is a small thing in comparison when I think of the end result, which is stuff on the shelves when I want it.
In years past knights of the road did exist my granddad was actually awarded one
my father has the certificate hung on his wall

transport of one kind or another has been in my family for generations hence classing myself as a proffesional

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Ah. I see.

It was something I often wondered about as I had not really heard about it until the internet so was not sure of the provenance of the term. However, I still think the crowded road have eroded what was there before.

GC8

19,910 posts

189 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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I noticed that standards dropped massively between 2007 and 2010. When I asked about this, I was told that the huge influx of Eastern European drivers was the cause.