Chinese LDV vans in uk

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MRPULLHARD

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318 posts

131 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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The van forum doesn't get much traffic so said I would ask here . Anyone know how they are selling / see many around ? You may or may not know they are made by Saic - who also own MG .

I am interested to know how they are doing as I live in Ireland and they are distributed in Uk and Ireland by a long est. Dublin company - Harris Group ( known for Hino trucks) - think they bought about 3,000 vans in from china which are stored at their Dublin site.

anothernameitist

1,500 posts

135 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Nothing on the harris website

triggerh4ppy

402 posts

126 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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I read in Autocar not long ago that LDV return was going to include 2 new vehicles. One EV and one other, but I dont think these are available yet?


Deerfoot

4,901 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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I have nothing to add apart from that I rented a van a few years back to move some stuff and got presented with an LDV.

Within five miles it was obvious that it was a massive pile of junk. The demise of LDV (while regrettable) was unavoidable while they were churning out this garbage in an attempt to compete with rival vans.


anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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I had a demo van in about 2 months ago, it looked ok, drove ok and I was expecting it to be very cheap.

Thank you for your time and interest in the New LDV V80.I have based a quote on the V80 Short wheel base low roof model in white .This Vehicle retails at £12995.00 Plus Vat plus RFL/FR of £285.00.We will include ply liners on an order for 3 free of charge .The ply liner saving is £900 .The contract hire quote is detailed below for you. The vehicles are available for quick delivery .I will ring you in the morning to see what your thoughts are .

Contract Hire with Maintenance

Deposit 1230.00 Plus VAT

36 x 410.00 Plus VAT

Mileage 20,000 Per Annum



That was as far as I went, I can get a Transit for almost half that quote.

ChemicalChaos

10,384 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Deerfoot said:
I have nothing to add apart from that I rented a van a few years back to move some stuff and got presented with an LDV.

Within five miles it was obvious that it was a massive pile of junk. The demise of LDV (while regrettable) was unavoidable while they were churning out this garbage in an attempt to compete with rival vans.
Is it really surprising, given that the Convoy and Pilot were basically an unchanged 1974 Freight Rover with a new grille?

I see the new model is a Maxus with a new grille.... Nothing like carrying on the tradition!

Fastdruid

8,631 posts

152 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Deerfoot said:
I have nothing to add apart from that I rented a van a few years back to move some stuff and got presented with an LDV.

Within five miles it was obvious that it was a massive pile of junk. The demise of LDV (while regrettable) was unavoidable while they were churning out this garbage in an attempt to compete with rival vans.
+9000.

Going back a few years we used to do many (bike) trackdays and rented a van each time. As such I got to see pretty much every single make. LDV stood head and shoulders above the rest as being absolutely awful. Slow, uncomfortable, noisy, poor mpg and shockingly put together. After that I would refuse to hire from anywhere that used them, it just wasn't worth it!

mgtony

4,019 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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They aged in dog years! biggrin

Over the weekend I saw two new ones parked up at Edgbaston. One a standard one and the other an EV model. Didn't know anyone was remaking them.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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CoinSl0t said:
I had a demo van in about 2 months ago, it looked ok, drove ok and I was expecting it to be very cheap.

Thank you for your time and interest in the New LDV V80.I have based a quote on the V80 Short wheel base low roof model in white .This Vehicle retails at £12995.00 Plus Vat plus RFL/FR of £285.00.We will include ply liners on an order for 3 free of charge .The ply liner saving is £900 .The contract hire quote is detailed below for you. The vehicles are available for quick delivery .I will ring you in the morning to see what your thoughts are .

Contract Hire with Maintenance

Deposit 1230.00 Plus VAT

36 x 410.00 Plus VAT

Mileage 20,000 Per Annum



That was as far as I went, I can get a Transit for almost half that quote.
36 x £410 = £14,760 + £1,230 = £15,990. For a van that retails at £12,995.

Sod renting them, then. Buy 'em. Even if they're only worth three or four grand after three years, you're quids in. Probably cheaper than the Tranny rental.
<thinks> Does the maintenance include sticking back the bits that fall off, as well as just servicing?

MRPULLHARD

Original Poster:

318 posts

131 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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myldv.co.uk is website , you guys over there get a small vanette type also but they don't seem to sell that in Ireland.
Our post service bought some vans earlier in year but not many around aside from that.

MDMA .

8,884 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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just before they went under, the Royal Mail had that many warranty claims in with them that they couldn't fulfill, they just gave them the last 40 vans they had. still got a batch of towbars here for LDV vans that we never fitted frown

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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They were shockingly bad. Word was the leccy board were buying fleets at half the price of a tranny despite the retail being on par. Terrible, horrible things, one of the foreman got told off for refusing two brand new ldvs on delivery and saying his lads would keep the 10 year old transits they were supposed to be replacing.


300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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CoinSl0t said:
Thank you for your time and interest in the New LDV V80.
This Vehicle retails at £12995.00 Plus Vat


That was as far as I went, I can get a Transit for almost half that quote.
Afraid I know nothing about new van prices, but is a Transit really only £7k new + VAT?

Digga

40,295 posts

283 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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TBF to LDV, we bought a Leyland DAF 3.5t (twin rear tyre) dropside pickup and it would haul full payload all day long. It's just it deafened the driver in the process, but apart from that, they were unbelievably tough.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
Afraid I know nothing about new van prices, but is a Transit really only £7k new + VAT?
I was thinking the same thing. AFAIK even a basic low spec Transit is closer to £15k+vat, though likely to be a much nicer van than the LDV.

PistonBroker

2,414 posts

226 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Mr2Mike said:
300bhp/ton said:
Afraid I know nothing about new van prices, but is a Transit really only £7k new + VAT?
I was thinking the same thing. AFAIK even a basic low spec Transit is closer to £15k+vat, though likely to be a much nicer van than the LDV.
I'm presuming he meant the contract hire monthly.

gazza285

9,806 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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ChemicalChaos said:
Is it really surprising, given that the Convoy and Pilot were basically an unchanged 1974 Freight Rover with a new grille?
Not forgetting the Sherpa was basically a Morris J4 with a bonnet, so the origins are even older than 1974...

MDMA .

8,884 posts

101 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
CoinSl0t said:
I had a demo van in about 2 months ago, it looked ok, drove ok and I was expecting it to be very cheap.

Thank you for your time and interest in the New LDV V80.I have based a quote on the V80 Short wheel base low roof model in white .This Vehicle retails at £12995.00 Plus Vat plus RFL/FR of £285.00.We will include ply liners on an order for 3 free of charge .The ply liner saving is £900 .The contract hire quote is detailed below for you. The vehicles are available for quick delivery .I will ring you in the morning to see what your thoughts are .

Contract Hire with Maintenance

Deposit 1230.00 Plus VAT

36 x 410.00 Plus VAT

Mileage 20,000 Per Annum



That was as far as I went, I can get a Transit for almost half that quote.
36 x £410 = £14,760 + £1,230 = £15,990. For a van that retails at £12,995.

Sod renting them, then. Buy 'em. Even if they're only worth three or four grand after three years, you're quids in. Probably cheaper than the Tranny rental.
<thinks> Does the maintenance include sticking back the bits that fall off, as well as just servicing?
the CH prices look ok compared to a new Transit. a 130 trend would be around 4500 initial payment and about 190 per month for 59 months. add the balloon of 6000 at the end and you're over 21k for the Transit.

M1C

1,833 posts

111 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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The Wiki page for LDV references these guys as retailers:

http://www.aintreetruckandvan.co.uk/

M1C

1,833 posts

111 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Ah, i see there are a few more now:

Aintree Truck and Van
North East Truck & Van Ltd
Kearns and Murtagh Ltd.
Poulton Van and Car Sales Ltd
Imperial Commercials (Peterborough)
Imperial Commercials Norwich
Heathrow LDV Ltd
Harris Commercial (Lea Valley) Ltd
Ferndown Commercials
Eakin Bros
C.E.M Day LTD
Commercial Motors Wales
Cheshire Van Sales
Belfast Truck & Van C/O Gus Commercials
Cumbria Truck Centre
Manchetts
Pelican Engineering
Strathclyde LCV Ltd