First step to becoming a HGV driver

[milkround]

exelero said:

I just received my licence from DVLA. Applied for provisional C and C+E, buut nothing changed on my licence except the issue number. I could book my theory test with it however, I just thought it might show something at the categories. Should it or should it not show anything?

Have a look on dvla website lixwnxw checker. Dont think the cars show provisionals.

[exelero]

Got cat C1 and C provisional no C+E though, do I need to apply for that again?

[Stussy]

You have to pass C to be able to get C+E provisional if I remember right

[normalbloke]

Stussy said:

You have to pass C to be able to get C+E provisional if I remember right

Your C pass and subsequent licence IS your C+E provisional.

[exelero]

normalbloke said:

Stussy said:

You have to pass C to be able to get C+E provisional if I remember right

Your C pass and subsequent licence IS your C+E provisional.

Thanks

[exelero]

I will have my multiple choice test on Friday (failed the 1st one 82 out of 100, but I didn't even bother opening the book to study so I was not surprised). I will defo pass it this time, since I did put some time into it rather than chancing it again. Planning to do the CPC straight after that so when I complete my driving training I can jump into a lorry straight away. I did not book a hazard perception test just yet, but will as soon as I pass the theory, should be a piece of cake anyway (been driving for 8 years). Question: After passing the Driving test, do I need another multiple choice and haz. perception for C+E or they will still be valid? (I know, check online stuff which I did, but can't find proper info anywhere it seems. Thanks

[Stussy]

The hazard videos catches out a lot of people!
As an experienced driver you’ll spot a lot more potential hazards than expected. The key is to spot developing hazards. However, if you click them too quickly you’ll miss the max points, so when you spot it you need to pause for a second or two and then click it.

Edited by Stussy on Wednesday 23 October 04:13

[normalbloke]

Stussy said:

The hazard videos catches out a lot of people!
As an experienced driver you’ll spot a lot more potential hazards than expected. The key is to spot developing hazards. However, if you click them too quickly you’ll miss the max points, so when you spot it you need to pause for a second or two and then click it.

Edited by Stussy on Wednesday 23 October 04:13

What he said, learn to pass the test only, don’t rely on your real world experience, you will be penalised for clicking too early, and too many times.

[WilliamWoollard]

normalbloke said:

Stussy said:

The hazard videos catches out a lot of people!
As an experienced driver you’ll spot a lot more potential hazards than expected. The key is to spot developing hazards. However, if you click them too quickly you’ll miss the max points, so when you spot it you need to pause for a second or two and then click it.

Edited by Stussy on Wednesday 23 October 04:13

What he said, learn to pass the test only, don’t rely on your real world experience, you will be penalised for clicking too early, and too many times.

100% this - you need to learn to play the game, relying on actual driving skill will almost certainly see you fail!

To answer the question, no, you don't need to do another hazard perception/multiple choice test for C+E.

[exelero]

WilliamWoollard said:

normalbloke said:

Stussy said:

The hazard videos catches out a lot of people!
As an experienced driver you’ll spot a lot more potential hazards than expected. The key is to spot developing hazards. However, if you click them too quickly you’ll miss the max points, so when you spot it you need to pause for a second or two and then click it.

Edited by Stussy on Wednesday 23 October 04:13

What he said, learn to pass the test only, don’t rely on your real world experience, you will be penalised for clicking too early, and too many times.

100% this - you need to learn to play the game, relying on actual driving skill will almost certainly see you fail!

To answer the question, no, you don't need to do another hazard perception/multiple choice test for C+E.

Thank you everyone. So I should wait for 2 second after I saw the hazard?

[WilliamWoollard]

exelero said:

WilliamWoollard said:

normalbloke said:

Stussy said:

The hazard videos catches out a lot of people!
As an experienced driver you’ll spot a lot more potential hazards than expected. The key is to spot developing hazards. However, if you click them too quickly you’ll miss the max points, so when you spot it you need to pause for a second or two and then click it.

Edited by Stussy on Wednesday 23 October 04:13

What he said, learn to pass the test only, don’t rely on your real world experience, you will be penalised for clicking too early, and too many times.

100% this - you need to learn to play the game, relying on actual driving skill will almost certainly see you fail!

To answer the question, no, you don't need to do another hazard perception/multiple choice test for C+E.

Thank you everyone. So I should wait for 2 second after I saw the hazard?

Nope, you need to get an app (not a free one they're rubbish) and practice clicking when it wants you to. It should be at the point that the hazard goes from being something you just keep an eye on to one you need to take action (brake/steer) for, but you definitely need a decent app/website to practice it.

[Stussy]

The two second suggestion is based on the difference between you spotting a potential hazard as soon it appears, and the time between what the DVLA seems to think it becomes a developing hazard, ie. one where something does happen as opposed to might happen.

I had a paid for app (very good one) which also had a video section, it seemed really hard and made me dread the test. In reality it was a lot easier, possibly due to a big display than your phone.

Something like this will give you a better idea
https://youtu.be/ulJ5seoRjlM

[exelero]

Stussy said:

The two second suggestion is based on the difference between you spotting a potential hazard as soon it appears, and the time between what the DVLA seems to think it becomes a developing hazard, ie. one where something does happen as opposed to might happen.

I had a paid for app (very good one) which also had a video section, it seemed really hard and made me dread the test. In reality it was a lot easier, possibly due to a big display than your phone.

Something like this will give you a better idea
https://youtu.be/ulJ5seoRjlM

Watched the video... I don't like this test already

[exelero]

Ok. Both parts of the theory test sorted. Scored 90 on the hazard and 93 on the multiple choice. Could someone point me in the right direction re CPC module 2? I’ve got two dvsa books I was just wondering if there is any app I could use? Would prefer a PC version to be honest, I guess the free ones are not that good, but I’m willing to pay up to 20-25£ for a good one. Thanks

[exelero]

exelero said:

Ok. Both parts of the theory test sorted. Scored 90 on the hazard and 93 on the multiple choice. Could someone point me in the right direction re CPC module 2? I’ve got two dvsa books I was just wondering if there is any app I could use? Would prefer a PC version to be honest, I guess the free ones are not that good, but I’m willing to pay up to 20-25£ for a good one. Thanks

Would this be good?
https://lgvtheory.co.uk/Cpc-modules/module-2-case-...

[Stussy]

Save your money, the case studies are basically similar to the 100 question test in a different format.
If you’re consistently passing the 100 question mock tests you should be fine for the case studies

[leggly]

It really isn’t worth it. Right now you’ll see me as a doom and gloom merchant, give it five years of no social life, low wages ( for what you’re expected to do) and Vosa nipping at your heels. It soon loses it appeal. The driver CPC is the biggest insult/money making scam to come out of Europe so far. I’m sure it will only improve in the coming years. Anybody thinking driving a truck is a step in the right direction is deluded at best. Spend your money on educating yourself out of transport. You’ll thank me for it in the long run.

[ymwoods]

leggly said:

It really isn’t worth it. Right now you’ll see me as a doom and gloom merchant, give it five years of no social life, low wages ( for what you’re expected to do) and Vosa nipping at your heels. It soon loses it appeal. The driver CPC is the biggest insult/money making scam to come out of Europe so far. I’m sure it will only improve in the coming years. Anybody thinking driving a truck is a step in the right direction is deluded at best. Spend your money on educating yourself out of transport. You’ll thank me for it in the long run.

I think its very marmite. I came out of it about 4-5 years ago after doing a few years on low loaders and then a few years on General, fridges and pharmaceutical stuff as I promised my Mrs that once she fell pregnant I would stop tramping. I now have my own, non-related business things going on but I miss driving. So much so, that 2 weeks ago I started doing a few nights for the old company I worked for. Home each day and only short shifts, but I have missed it!

I would argue that wages very much depend on the type of work. Go into general haulage where the rates are lower with no speciality and your not looking at much more than 4-500 a week take home. Get yourself into other areas of specialisation and I was on nearly 800 take home a week before I left just for piloting a steering wheel down the M1. Some of the continental boys doing the pharmaceutical work are taking over a grand a week home but are away from home for 2 weeks at a time.

[Stussy]

You could apply that to any job. It’s easy to say it’s crap and don’t go into that sector just because you didn’t personally enjoy it and left yourself.
One persons crap job is another persons dream job.
It’s all relative.
I do ex farm milk collection on night shift, the hours suit me and the pay is decent. Home every day and plenty of overtime if and when I choose to do it. I enjoy it and am happy with the wages, so why would I want to leave it and get a different job just because you didn’t like driving a truck for a living?

[Venisonpie]

Stussy said:

You could apply that to any job. It’s easy to say it’s crap and don’t go into that sector just because you didn’t personally enjoy it and left yourself.
One persons crap job is another persons dream job.
It’s all relative.
I do ex farm milk collection on night shift, the hours suit me and the pay is decent. Home every day and plenty of overtime if and when I choose to do it. I enjoy it and am happy with the wages, so why would I want to leave it and get a different job just because you didn’t like driving a truck for a living?

This. Truck driving can be a great job, I had many happy years doing it when I was younger and would do so again. There can be a lot of negativity and some drivers have lost a sense of perspective - you could pay them 100k a year for a 3 day week and they would be the wrong 3 days..