Rusty Mercedes Sprinters

Rusty Mercedes Sprinters

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Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Brinyan said:
Willy Nilly said:
We get couriers in umpteen times every day and they don't half beat their vans to death.Some of them are spectacularly knackered with dents just about anywhere on the vehicle.

Sprinters do stand out as always being rusty, like they buy their paint from The Early Learning Centre. We bought one that was on about 250,000 when the previous owner bought it and about 350 when we inherited. It limped on to about 455,000 with most of the original components getting replaced. It went like stink though.
They may well rust, but they've certainly got some go in them. Don't think there's many times I've ventured into the outside lane and not had a Sprinter appear behind me.
yes They also get driven with, err, a rather liberal approach to the legalities of driving. Often wondered if the rust was caused by the heat of re-entry

finlo

3,761 posts

203 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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sleepera6 said:
That's because VW build the California, to their own quality specifications. As a result the build quality, sticker price and resale price is much better on a proper build than panel van conversion.
They may well do, but the question was over the quality of Spinter motorhome /campervans.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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And what's the Crafter like?

JM

3,170 posts

206 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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sleepera6 said:
TVR Sagaris said:
... Are everywhere.

When was this taken ?!
That Sprinter has been off the road since early 2013! SORN'ed as well.

The driver is a naughty boy..
It's on The Mound in Edinburgh, the Whiski Rooms bar/restaurant in the background has been there since 2013.

So it may just be an old photo.

DoctorX

7,288 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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finlo said:
sleepera6 said:
That's because VW build the California, to their own quality specifications. As a result the build quality, sticker price and resale price is much better on a proper build than panel van conversion.
They may well do, but the question was over the quality of Spinter motorhome /campervans.
Vans in general really. Is the finish, rustproofing on a Cali better than a transporter? Is that new Merc Marco Polo camper which looks rather swish going to be a pile of dust in a few years like the base vans appear to be?

TVR Sagaris

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836 posts

232 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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VW LTs and Crafters appear to have suffered exactly the same fate



Transits from the same era are often in better shape...

Vitos corrode by the second


finlo

3,761 posts

203 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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DoctorX said:
Vans in general really. Is the finish, rustproofing on a Cali better than a transporter? Is that new Merc Marco Polo camper which looks rather swish going to be a pile of dust in a few years like the base vans appear to be?
Motorhomes in general tend to live pampered lives and cover very few miles.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

269 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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POORCARDEALER said:
10 plate, light use, just had it repainted, rust
My neighbor has a 54plate. Had a full respray about 6 years ago.

It's totally shagged out looking again, and has been for a couple of years. Seems to keep going though.

OldGermanHeaps

3,830 posts

178 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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I think trafics never rust because the wiring looms and most of the electrical components act as a sacrificial anode protecting the bodywork.

Josho

748 posts

97 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Cousin has a 58 plate Vito, awesome van no rust.

Have customer with lder moonship Crafters, no rust. Had a Sprinter. Rust.

The above Crafters and Vito are all silver.

The Sprinter was white.

The coloured ones always rust less.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Josho said:
Cousin has a 58 plate Vito, awesome van no rust.

Have customer with lder moonship Crafters, no rust. Had a Sprinter. Rust.

The above Crafters and Vito are all silver.

The Sprinter was white.

The coloured ones always rust less.
Racist


Francy555

249 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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We have several Vw crafters and Mercedes sprinters in work for use as service vans, they lead a fairly hard life.

The oldest van is a 2008 sprinter, she is completely rotten, thankfully she is being retired at the end of the month.

She has 240 thousand miles, on her second engine and gearbox, multiple exhausts, the rear and side doors are completely rotten, and the paintwork has been touched up numerous times.

Unlike the Ford transit, sprinter seems to rot from the inside out, the seams on the doors are first to go and once they start there is no stopping the rust.

Good driving vans but I'd never buy a second hand one over 5years old!

V8RX7

26,862 posts

263 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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It's certainly not all vans - Mercedes have always been particularly bad - although as mentioned they do tend to cover more miles.

VW T4 / T5 don't rust anything like as much - my T4 has a few scabs where stonechips have been left for years but I'm talking three or four not the hundreds you'll see on a similar age Merc

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Stone chips at 160 mph take their toll.

As a youngster, in my first job I used to go out for the day with the van driver as part of my training, was ace, that was a Merc van, empty it didnt half move and he could drift it nicely, he also introduced me to the majesty of the Donner Kebab on a lunch stop.

legless

1,692 posts

140 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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TVR Sagaris said:
VW LTs and Crafters appear to have suffered exactly the same fate

I've heard that this is the key reason why VW Group ended the large van partnership with Daimler Benz. The new Crafter is a 100% VW product, as opposed to the previous model that was essentially a Sprinter with a VW engine, lights and grille, and built by Daimler Benz.

caelite

4,274 posts

112 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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DS197 said:
The alloys on that MX5 are far more shocking
Thats what I was looking at.

With that point in mind, my money would be on that MX5 being more structurally affected by the rust than the sprinter, they just hide it better. biggrin

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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OldGermanHeaps said:
I think trafics never rust because the wiring looms and most of the electrical components act as a sacrificial anode protecting the bodywork.
hehe I know my neighbour would agree, after several big Sprinters he downsized and got a Traffic and has had endless problems with the electrics.

njw1

2,068 posts

111 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
OldGermanHeaps said:
I think trafics never rust because the wiring looms and most of the electrical components act as a sacrificial anode protecting the bodywork.
hehe I know my neighbour would agree, after several big Sprinters he downsized and got a Traffic and has had endless problems with the electrics.

Never mind the electrics, I was driving a 16 plate Vivaro (Traffic with a Vauxhall badge!) hire van with 7.5k miles on it down the M5 last Friday and as I was approaching a queue I went to change down to fifth and for some reason it decided it didn't want to have a clutch anymore, the pedal was on the floor. I got my foot underneath the pedal and lifted it back up, pumped it a few times and it came back and was fine for the rest of the day, a new van shouldn't be doing things like that shirley?

milu

2,353 posts

266 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I have an 08 Vito with just a couple of small blisters on rear arches. But it's red not white.
Just having a new air con pump fitted though. It's cost a bit this year unfortunately. It's only done 127k so I guess I'll keep it.

gazza285

9,810 posts

208 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Designed to do 100,000 a year for three years, not to last a lifetime, unlike PSA and Renault vans, which don't rust, but tend to suffer major mechanical maladies at half that distance.