Rusty Mercedes Sprinters

Rusty Mercedes Sprinters

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Bristol spark

4,382 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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TBH i really don't know why anyone would buy a van that is not a Transit of some description......

V8RX7

26,839 posts

263 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Bristol spark said:
TBH i really don't know why anyone would buy a van that is not a Transit of some description......
I didn't mostly because of the image, high floor and when buying used 99% are low powered and too short - also whilst I paid a little more for a T4 it's actually gone up in value in the 4 years I've owned it.

I did own a SWB Sprinter before it and mine was in the 1% that was tidy - unfortunately it was also in the 1% that broke it's gearbox (within 130k) after that I bought an Iveco Daily and other than driving like a lorry it was far better value and condition than Sprinters or Transits plus even the largest Transits don't compare if you need a BIG van.

RicksAlfas

13,394 posts

244 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I was speaking to a Mercedes van salesman yesterday, and without prompting, he said "the new ones don't rust".
The problem is you wouldn't know until a few years down the line!

98elise

26,542 posts

161 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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cb1965 said:
TVR Sagaris said:
Why are they so bad?
They are built by Mercedes. Their cars are much the same, but people who buy them pretend otherwise.
Are you sure about that?

I've just bought a 2007 C Class and it doesn't have a spot of rust on it. None of the cars I viewed did. They definitely used to have a problem with rust but that seems to have been fixed.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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None of the vans are made to last now !! lease and thowaway , the last quality vans were the Toyota Hiace
sadly no longer imported , toyota europe have rebadged a citreon and joined the race to the bottom ...


stu67

812 posts

188 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I've got a 2000 350 MWB Transit that i use for carting my bikes around in, it is without doubt the most reliable vehicle I've ever had. I swear when the end comes there will just be cockroaches and that van. Bodywork is great, plenty of "flack" damage but no real rust. I've had it for about 12 years and the only non service item I've had to replace is an alternator about 5 years back.

NoIP

559 posts

84 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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If you want to go rusty van spotting, the best places to do it are the newspaper wholesalers at 4am. Park yourself outside WHSmiths in Bredbury, Manchester and feast your eyes upon the endless stream of death traps arriving and departing. The one pictured in the OP on this thread wouldn't hold a candle to the state of some you'll see at Smith's and Menzies! VOSA often has a purge but despite appearances the vast majority are in fact roadworthy yikes.

Shieldsy94

66 posts

149 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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If the body is that rusty, underneath could possibly be rusty as well and would flag on an MOT?

sutts

897 posts

148 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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NoIP said:
If you want to go rusty van spotting, the best places to do it are the newspaper wholesalers at 4am. Park yourself outside WHSmiths in Bredbury, Manchester and feast your eyes upon the endless stream of death traps arriving and departing
That sounds like a great idea for a family day out now the holidays are nearly upon us. Does one need to book?


NoIP

559 posts

84 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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sutts said:
NoIP said:
If you want to go rusty van spotting, the best places to do it are the newspaper wholesalers at 4am. Park yourself outside WHSmiths in Bredbury, Manchester and feast your eyes upon the endless stream of death traps arriving and departing
That sounds like a great idea for a family day out now the holidays are nearly upon us. Does one need to book?
hehe

I do some adhoc work delivering to the places so I see them as part of the job.

Herbs

4,916 posts

229 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Bristol spark said:
TBH i really don't know why anyone would buy a van that is not a Transit of some description......
Because the LWB version isn't long enough wink

Jonny_

4,128 posts

207 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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I once heard a theory that Merc commercial vehicles all use the same cheap white paint, originally intended for painting lorry cabs which are mostly plastic/GRP, and therefore rust resistance isn't a strong point of said paint.

Quite possibly BS, but it would explain a lot!

njw1

2,067 posts

111 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Herbs said:
Bristol spark said:
TBH i really don't know why anyone would buy a van that is not a Transit of some description......
Because the LWB version isn't long enough wink


You'll be needing a jumbo then. wink

I've had several Transits both privately and company and driven many other vans and always preferred the Transits. From experience I've found them nicer to drive, cheaper to run and more reliable. I really liked the old mk5 smilies but by f*ck, they could rust, and were slow, and noisy but you could give them absolute death and they would just keep going. My favourite Transit though was the early mk7 company one I had, it seemed a bit more refined and nicer to drive than the older vans but mainly because it had the 140ps engine so could keep up with most cars on the road. smile

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Bristol spark said:
TBH i really don't know why anyone would buy a van that is not a Transit of some description......
We have a 2015 Transit and while we don't put many miles on it at all, it is a brilliant utility vehicle and has enough power even fully loaded. The V6 Ecoboost the Yanks get would be nice though.

HannsG

3,045 posts

134 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Mercedes was a brand lauded by many in the early 90s as having the best cars. I remember my old man buying Mercedes after Mercedes.

And then you see the rust buckets. Who the hell at Mercedes thought cheap steel would be acceptable? Idiots.

gazza285

9,810 posts

208 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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HannsG said:
Who the hell at Mercedes thought cheap steel would be acceptable? Idiots.
More to do with the coatings than the quality of the steel.

Toaster Pilot

14,619 posts

158 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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V8RX7 said:
I didn't mostly because of the image, high floor and when buying used 99% are low powered and too short - also whilst I paid a little more for a T4 it's actually gone up in value in the 4 years I've owned it.

I did own a SWB Sprinter before it and mine was in the 1% that was tidy - unfortunately it was also in the 1% that broke it's gearbox (within 130k) after that I bought an Iveco Daily and other than driving like a lorry it was far better value and condition than Sprinters or Transits plus even the largest Transits don't compare if you need a BIG van.
What image problem does a Transit have that an old T4 doesn't assuming it's for work and not a "lifestyle" vehicle?

Josho

748 posts

97 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Toaster Pilot said:
V8RX7 said:
I didn't mostly because of the image, high floor and when buying used 99% are low powered and too short - also whilst I paid a little more for a T4 it's actually gone up in value in the 4 years I've owned it.

I did own a SWB Sprinter before it and mine was in the 1% that was tidy - unfortunately it was also in the 1% that broke it's gearbox (within 130k) after that I bought an Iveco Daily and other than driving like a lorry it was far better value and condition than Sprinters or Transits plus even the largest Transits don't compare if you need a BIG van.
What image problem does a Transit have that an old T4 doesn't assuming it's for work and not a "lifestyle" vehicle?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1619992&d=0#seperator

Toaster Pilot

14,619 posts

158 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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laugh

s don't just drive Transits - maybe best avoid all commercials to be safe

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Just a shame the current Transit is so ugly.