Lorry Drivers - Tachograph Limits
Discussion
Fun Bus said:
R0G said:
Fun Bus said:
And as soon as the driver moves, the tacho switches mode breaking the uninterrupted break the law requires.
If stopped in traffic for 1 minute on break then that is still a break of 1 minute even though it will not count as a driving time breakIf his time is up, even if it moves a couple of meters it will show as driving time.This logs on digi card ,next time police/dvsa do a check {even 28days later!} he will get £300 fine and a 72 hour prohibition{with a green cable through wheels so can,t drive off} and dvsa charge £80 to remove cable!
police and dvsa don,t give a minute to over hours driving and take no excuses, hence some hgv park on hard shoulder as time run out,they take the fine for that as its cheaper and they don,t get driving prohibition on the spot.It's a bit of a mare driving hgv's these days,dvsa and police have an exhaustive list of fines they can throw at drivers.Left the hgv licence go as just to much compliance and hassle to it now.
police and dvsa don,t give a minute to over hours driving and take no excuses, hence some hgv park on hard shoulder as time run out,they take the fine for that as its cheaper and they don,t get driving prohibition on the spot.It's a bit of a mare driving hgv's these days,dvsa and police have an exhaustive list of fines they can throw at drivers.Left the hgv licence go as just to much compliance and hassle to it now.
renorti said:
If his time is up, even if it moves a couple of meters it will show as driving time.This logs on digi card ,next time police/dvsa do a check {even 28days later!} he will get £300 fine and a 72 hour prohibition{with a green cable through wheels so can,t drive off} and dvsa charge £80 to remove cable!
police and dvsa don,t give a minute to over hours driving and take no excuses, hence some hgv park on hard shoulder as time run out,they take the fine for that as its cheaper and they don,t get driving prohibition on the spot.It's a bit of a mare driving hgv's these days,dvsa and police have an exhaustive list of fines they can throw at drivers.Left the hgv licence go as just to much compliance and hassle to it now.
This isn't really accurate. I would also expect a recent tachograph to be able to switch back to break without recording an interruption. It is only the older 5sec/1min types which will spoil a break for a small movement.police and dvsa don,t give a minute to over hours driving and take no excuses, hence some hgv park on hard shoulder as time run out,they take the fine for that as its cheaper and they don,t get driving prohibition on the spot.It's a bit of a mare driving hgv's these days,dvsa and police have an exhaustive list of fines they can throw at drivers.Left the hgv licence go as just to much compliance and hassle to it now.
markymarkthree said:
GC8 said:
markymarkthree said:
If driver is in stationary traffic he can put taco to break.
You can place the mode switch onto break whenever you like, but that doesn't make it a break.jmorgan said:
markymarkthree said:
GC8 said:
markymarkthree said:
If driver is in stationary traffic he can put taco to break.
You can place the mode switch onto break whenever you like, but that doesn't make it a break.If sat there long enough you could have a 15, 30 or a 45 min break.
markymarkthree said:
GC8 said:
markymarkthree said:
If driver is in stationary traffic he can put taco to break.
You can place the mode switch onto break whenever you like, but that doesn't make it a break.I'm a recent class 2 pass doing 7.5t work at the moment, you can go slightly over the 4.5 hours tacho rule in unforeseen circumstances so long as you do a print out and account for why, bad traffic, nowhere safe to stop etc and so long as there's a record you're covered, a copy for you and a copy for transport thats uploaded to the dvsa database. I've also had to move a vehicle say 10-20 meters while on break and it not changed from break on a 1.4, bit surprising really.
Contrary to popular belief the Traf pol or DVSA are not really interested in the odd couple of minutes if you have a reasonable explination and the right attitude, they know that even with good planning and intentions things can go wrong .
They do look for persistent or regular offenders and system cheats and abusers.
One even quiried a 1 minute ejection of my card during a night rest .
The explination of fumbling in the dark to check the time without puting my specs on only raised a smile and me being told that it wouldn't have reset my rest break if I had been worried about it .
They do look for persistent or regular offenders and system cheats and abusers.
One even quiried a 1 minute ejection of my card during a night rest .
The explination of fumbling in the dark to check the time without puting my specs on only raised a smile and me being told that it wouldn't have reset my rest break if I had been worried about it .
markymarkthree said:
If driver is in stationary traffic he can put taco to break.
I think you'll find that's incorrect use of the mode switch, as breaks cannot officially be taken in the drivers seat, which will result in an infringement. Sorry to be a pedant
Edited by racin.snake on Friday 19th January 21:24
racin.snake said:
markymarkthree said:
If driver is in stationary traffic he can put taco to break.
I think you'll find that's incorrect use of the mode switch , which will result in an infringement GC8 said:
This isn't really accurate. I would also expect a recent tachograph to be able to switch back to break without recording an interruption. It is only the older 5sec/1min types which will spoil a break for a small movement.
All digital tachos will record the movement. You can't see it on your card printout, it won't interrupt your rest if you switch it back to break quick enough but if the dvsa man downloads or prints a speed trace from the head it will show. Best bet is to do a printout with an excuse and hope you don't get stopped for a few days after.Gassing Station | Commercial Break | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff