Wagon and drag, drag is an A frame.

Wagon and drag, drag is an A frame.

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chilistrucker

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4,541 posts

151 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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As per title really, tips anyone?

I'm finally driving a wagon again tomorrow for the first time in over 3 and a half years and I know I'm going to be a bit rusty, the thing is its a wagon and drag on the A frame setup which is a first for me.

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Absolutely fine going forward, bit of a bugger to reverse them. Good luck with the job , glad to hear you finally got the DVLA thing sorted out.

Edited by brrapp on Tuesday 9th January 19:38

chilistrucker

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Tuesday 9th January 2018
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brrapp said:
Absolutely fine going forward, bit of a bugger to reverse them. Good luck with the job , glad to hear you finally got the DVLA thing sorted out.

Edited by brrapp on Tuesday 9th January 19:38


Cheers, only an assessment tomorrow but fingers crossed.

bigwheel

1,618 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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chilistrucker said:
brrapp said:
Absolutely fine going forward, bit of a bugger to reverse them. Good luck with the job , glad to hear you finally got the DVLA thing sorted out.

Edited by brrapp on Tuesday 9th January 19:38


Cheers, only an assessment tomorrow but fingers crossed.
You hardly see the trailer, it follows with no cut-in on curves and roundabouts.
Reversing is a f***ing nightmare until you get the hang of it which can take forever. Some combos let you connect the tow-pin on the front bumper of the wagon and a red-line suzie socket at the bumper to the A-frame and reverse the trailer where it's needed. Much much easier.

A handy trick to unload the 2 vehicles simultaneously if they only have back doors is to jack-knife reverse until the drag trailer and it's A-frame end up to the side of the "wagon's" rear. Do it right and the 2 vehicles will still be pointing in the same direction in a staggered pattern.
That might impress your assessor!

Edited by bigwheel on Tuesday 9th January 22:50

chilistrucker

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Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Thanks bigwheel.
I have a friend who started at this firm 2 months back and he echos your points exactly, so it looks like I'll be fine going forward but am going to be the new kid in school with the reversing. He said it will annoy the hell out of me to begin with, but it slowly gets easier.

It seems like the job is all drop box work and they split front and rear at main hub, to either tip on bay or leave in yard for shunters to sort later.

bigwheel

1,618 posts

214 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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chilistrucker said:
Thanks bigwheel.
I have a friend who started at this firm 2 months back and he echos your points exactly, so it looks like I'll be fine going forward but am going to be the new kid in school with the reversing. He said it will annoy the hell out of me to begin with, but it slowly gets easier.

It seems like the job is all drop box work and they split front and rear at main hub, to either tip on bay or leave in yard for shunters to sort later.
There can be various ways to operate demountable boxes in depots.
Ideal if you can split and leave the trailer-box for the shunter to get onto the bay.

A-frames aren't as popular now as caravan trailers with wagon and drag fleets in this country.

By the way, a welcome return of your vocational licence. Should have been re-instated a long time ago.

chilistrucker

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Thursday 11th January 2018
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Thanks mate.
Yeah they dragged it out a bit eh, I did point this out once or twice on my claims forms that I’ve been working on wink

I have always wondered why the a frame is still being used over the more usual drawbar setup?
On my travels I did notice that the a frames seemed to be most popular in Germany.


grumpy52

5,580 posts

166 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Come on Chilli , how did it go ?
Or are you still shunting about trying to park ?

chilistrucker

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Monday 15th January 2018
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grumpy52 said:
Come on Chilli , how did it go ?
Or are you still shunting about trying to park ?
Hello grumpy.
First shift tomorrow but looks like this week will be training out on the road learning routes etc but as a passenger.

Looks like second week is when the fun begins.

Humper

946 posts

162 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Couple of goes and you'll can do this..........................

https://youtu.be/iX9ZPmQgiZI