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2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,230 posts

234 months

Friday 1st June 2018
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V10 SPM said:
The latest Iveco Eurocargo is a very flexible package with probably the best range of options on the market.
Are you an Iveco dealer? hehe

Ilovejapcrap

3,274 posts

111 months

Friday 1st June 2018
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Don’t get an auto

tin duck dave

167 posts

127 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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V10 SPM said:
The latest Iveco Eurocargo is a very flexible package with probably the best range of options on the market.
As long as you think the 80s were the peak of truck design. So dated it even makes daf look modern.

V10 SPM

562 posts

250 months

Saturday 9th June 2018
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tin duck dave said:
V10 SPM said:
The latest Iveco Eurocargo is a very flexible package with probably the best range of options on the market.
As long as you think the 80s were the peak of truck design. So dated it even makes daf look modern.


Those who voted it International Truck of the Year in 2016 seemed to like it.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

159 months

Saturday 9th June 2018
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V10 SPM said:


Those who voted it International Truck of the Year in 2016 seemed to like it.
Yes but they never had to mend it

tin duck dave

167 posts

127 months

Sunday 10th June 2018
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V10 SPM said:
tin duck dave said:
V10 SPM said:
The latest Iveco Eurocargo is a very flexible package with probably the best range of options on the market.
As long as you think the 80s were the peak of truck design. So dated it even makes daf look modern.


Those who voted it International Truck of the Year in 2016 seemed to like it.
If sticking a bit of plastic on a cab that old makes it a new truck to them then great , personally it's polishing a turd. It's noisy, cramped and has an appalling gearbox.

V10 SPM

562 posts

250 months

Sunday 10th June 2018
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tin duck dave said:
V10 SPM said:
tin duck dave said:
V10 SPM said:
The latest Iveco Eurocargo is a very flexible package with probably the best range of options on the market.
As long as you think the 80s were the peak of truck design. So dated it even makes daf look modern.


Those who voted it International Truck of the Year in 2016 seemed to like it.
If sticking a bit of plastic on a cab that old makes it a new truck to them then great , personally it's polishing a turd. It's noisy, cramped and has an appalling gearbox.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but my experience is different. Also, the German Army conducted extensive trials and chose the new Eurocargo over the German brands.

K50 DEL

9,227 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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For a year or so back in the late 90s I drove a 7.5t for a living, my weapon of choice being a then new curtainside Iveco 75E15
I was very fond of it, covered more KM than I care to think about and it never once let me down.

Fastforward a couple decades and earlier this year I hired a brand-spanking Daf LF
What a load of cobblers... an awful auto gearbox that made reverse uphill starts impossible, woeful speed if you wanted at least some fuel economy and nothing like as comfortable as I remember the Iveco either.

One thing they did have in common though was the lack of cruise control... even in 1999 I never understood why a commercial vehicle would not have cruise as standard.

waynedear

2,157 posts

166 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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grumpy52 said:
Stay well away from the Isuzu !
Only has payload going for it .
Unreliable, uncomfortable, terrible ride and a woeful auto box .
The best all rounder is the DAF . Cab space , especially the sleeper , is the MAN.
The Merc for looks .
I think you are understating how bad the autobox Isuzu is, we have 5 of the pieces of crap.

Mercury00

4,098 posts

155 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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I can never decide which is worse, the Eurocargo or the Atego. Everyone at work hates the Atego because the gearboxes are ste, and they've been that way for at least a decade that I know of. Plus they're awful to drive in general. The Eurocargo just feels like it should've been replaced about ten years ago, which is weird because the Daily and Stralis aren't bad. I like the little MANs personally.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

162 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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I drove a 12t Daf LF45 up till 2 years ago,same size body as a 7.5 but could carry almost double payload.
Didn't like it,especially the brakes,press a little bit,nothing happened,1mm more on the pedal,doing an emergency stop almost.
Euro 5, it drunk adblue like diesel,used WAY more than the previous LF45 which was Euro 3 or 4.
I drove ,just once I think an updated 2016 model with lane wander warning,didn't know how to turn it off,hated that too,a buzzer and steering wheel shook if I so much as twitched

GC8

19,910 posts

189 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Mercury00 said:
I can never decide which is worse, the Eurocargo or the Atego. Everyone at work hates the Atego because the gearboxes are ste, and they've been that way for at least a decade that I know of. Plus they're awful to drive in general. The Eurocargo just feels like it should've been replaced about ten years ago, which is weird because the Daily and Stralis aren't bad. I like the little MANs personally.
All 7.5t vans are unpleasant to drive.

WelshChris

1,173 posts

253 months

Tuesday 20th November 2018
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K50 DEL said:
For a year or so back in the late 90s I drove a 7.5t for a living, my weapon of choice being a then new curtainside Iveco 75E15
I was very fond of it, covered more KM than I care to think about and it never once let me down.

Fastforward a couple decades and earlier this year I hired a brand-spanking Daf LF
What a load of cobblers... an awful auto gearbox that made reverse uphill starts impossible, woeful speed if you wanted at least some fuel economy and nothing like as comfortable as I remember the Iveco either.

One thing they did have in common though was the lack of cruise control... even in 1999 I never understood why a commercial vehicle would not have cruise as standard.
Luxury.... cruise control? - you lot don't know you're born hehe In my younger days I did a few trips on multi-drop runs to Holland and Germany in a Leyland Terrier. Don't talk to me about rubbish trucks until you've seen one of these. You're unlikely to ever drive one as they've probably all been scrapped. No sleeper cab, manual gearbox, horrendously sprung, brakes that needed the touch of an elephant to get them to work (and heaven help you if you needed to try a bit of 'rapid retardation' even at low speed). Here's an excerpt from the original Commercial Motor roadest from '76 yikes

"The disappointing feature of the vehicle was the unsafe performance during the full-pressure brake stops, especially from the higher speeds. Stopping from 64km/h (40mph) the Terrier slewed to the offside, ending up at right angles to the vehicle's original direction and in the adjacent lane."

Seriously though, those were great days. I get very nostalgic about the UK transport industry and the early pioneers of international haulage - Volvo F89 overland to Jeddah anyone?

Rosscow

8,723 posts

162 months

Friday 8th January 2021
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Thread bump!

We're looking at replacing our very old 7.5T Iveco Eurocargo (owned since new, 2004 reg!). It's a bit like Trigger's broom.

We've had prices for the following:

Iveco Eurocargo
DAF
Isuzu
Fuso Canter

I'll be honest, the ownership of the Iveco was pretty tiresome. Not a great experience, especially as we've held onto it for far too long.

I like the look of the Fuso - great payload, good maneuverability.

The Isuzu is the cheapest followed by the Iveco, then the Fuso then the DAF.

Spec would be 6.1m body length curtain sider with barn doors and tuck under 1000kg tail lift. Removable post and shoring poles. Auto box, air con, rear view and blind spot cameras and side scan, etc. Just the standard day cab.

Any thoughts or experience greatly received!

powerstroke

10,283 posts

159 months

Friday 8th January 2021
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Rosscow said:
Thread bump!

We're looking at replacing our very old 7.5T Iveco Eurocargo (owned since new, 2004 reg!). It's a bit like Trigger's broom.

We've had prices for the following:

Iveco Eurocargo
DAF
Isuzu
Fuso Canter

I'll be honest, the ownership of the Iveco was pretty tiresome. Not a great experience, especially as we've held onto it for far too long.

I like the look of the Fuso - great payload, good maneuverability.

The Isuzu is the cheapest followed by the Iveco, then the Fuso then the DAF.

Spec would be 6.1m body length curtain sider with barn doors and tuck under 1000kg tail lift. Removable post and shoring poles. Auto box, air con, rear view and blind spot cameras and side scan, etc. Just the standard day cab.

Any thoughts or experience greatly received!
If you’re going for payload then the Isuzu or the fuso ,
But they are a bit tinny and the cabs are tiny ,
The Daf would be my choice for comfort and a big truck feel , maybe worth a look at the MAN TGL , or the Renault even ...

Rosscow

8,723 posts

162 months

Friday 8th January 2021
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Thanks, I'll give the MAN dealer a call on Monday.

Not too worried about the cab to be honest!

Rosscow

8,723 posts

162 months

Tuesday 12th January 2021
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The MAN look good, just waiting for a price.

Venisonpie

3,231 posts

81 months

Tuesday 12th January 2021
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Rosscow said:
The MAN look good, just waiting for a price.
Is where my money would go.

Rosscow

8,723 posts

162 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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OK, have had prices for the following. Anyone with any knowledge please give your opinion!

MAN TGL. 4.9l 190hp engine. 4.5m wheelbase. £55,500 + VAT
DAF FA LF. 4.5l 184hp engine. 4.3m wheelbase. £59,950 + VAT
Fuso Canter. 3.0l 175hp engine. £51,600 + VAT
Iveco Eurocargo. 4.5ltr 160hp engine. 4.455m wheelbase. £50,210.00 + VAT

All of the above have a similar spec: auto gear box, air con, DVS kit comprising side scan, blind spot camera, rear camera, bluetooth, etc.
Body to have curtains both sides with internal removable shoring poles/loading rails (3 rails per side, with lok-tracks), v-groove side raves with pull up lashing points at 500mm centres, 1000kg tuck away tail lift, barn doors.

I've also had a price from Isuzu at £45,000 + VAT but that was for a standard body without removable poles/rails but with tuck away lift. 3.0l 150bhp engine.

The DAF is too much money. The Iveco is in the sweet spot, but I think I like the MAN. I'm not sure about the others with 3.0l engines.



GC8

19,910 posts

189 months

Friday 15th January 2021
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The Japs are cheap but horrible to drive.

Fuel figures are possibly the most important metric. Also warranty period.