HGV Class 1 Driver Wages ?

[afterparty]

Hi All,

Currently looking at HGV Training for C+E,

Looking at Indeed, wages seem to be around £9.50 - £10.50 per hour PAYE, with overtime at roughly £13 per hour after 40 hours.

But i've checked that you can only work 90 hours every fortnight, so 45 hours a week max?

So is the salary of a Class 1 HGV driver roughly £23,000+/yr for 45 hours a week?

Thanks in advance

[Fulmentaljack3t]

This is from page 1 of a search for "HGV1 jobs". Used DuckDuckGo, other search engines are available...

HGV Class 1 Driver Jobs in May 2020, Careers & Recruitment ...
[Search domain www.totaljobs.com/jobs/hgv-class-1-driver]https://www.totaljobs.com/jobs/hgv-class-1-driver
What is the average salary for HGV Class 1 Driver jobs? The average salary for HGV Class 1 Driver jobs in the UK is £31,787. HGV Class 1 Driver salaries typically fall within a range from £26,406 to £36,678 per year, based upon analysis of HGV Class 1 Driver jobs posted on Totaljobs.com.

Result directly below was for 'indeed' and they had the range as £31k - £37k

[cossy400]

afterparty said:

Hi All,

Currently looking at HGV Training for C+E,

Looking at Indeed, wages seem to be around £9.50 - £10.50 per hour PAYE, with overtime at roughly £13 per hour after 40 hours.

But i've checked that you can only work 90 hours every fortnight, so 45 hours a week max?

So is the salary of a Class 1 HGV driver roughly £23,000+/yr for 45 hours a week?

Thanks in advance

90 hours is your fortnightly "DRIVETIME"

Working time is a completely different figure which is no more than 60 hours which includes your driving time aswell.

https://www.transportcafe.co.uk/training-recruitme...

I drive one and i took 38 grand last year.

[afterparty]

Yeah the search engines say £30,000+ and the training companies claiming up to £50,000 a year but seems lot of individual Indeed ads advertising for £10 an hour lol, not sure who to believe.

[citizensm1th]

Also depends if you go self employed or not as you can earn more that way but you need to be aware of the tax man..

[afterparty]

cossy400 said:

90 hours is your fortnightly "DRIVETIME"

Working time is a completely different figure which is no more than 60 hours which includes your driving time aswell.

https://www.transportcafe.co.uk/training-recruitme...

I drive one and i took 38 grand last year.

Typically how many hours would one have to work (driving time + other work, waiting etc) in total to earn say £35,000 a year ( i know higher london & south east region wages can distort the figures)

[cossy400]

afterparty said:

cossy400 said:

90 hours is your fortnightly "DRIVETIME"

Working time is a completely different figure which is no more than 60 hours which includes your driving time aswell.

https://www.transportcafe.co.uk/training-recruitme...

I drive one and i took 38 grand last year.

Typically how many hours would one have to work (driving time + other work, waiting etc) in total to earn say £35,000 a year ( i know higher london & south east region wages can distort the figures)

if your unlucky you could be on nearly 45 hours by wed, using all your 15 hour days up, and still have 2 13 hour days left.

Id say its going to be 60 hours a week, but the £50000 a year brigade will more than likely be on fuel tankers which you need an ADR for which on top of your £3/4 grand to get you up to class one driving licence, your ADR could add another grand to it that, then you ve got find a job.

you could do with either this post moving to commercial break, or start a new thread in there as you ll get more posting in there

[TCX]

Top end of normal jobs,tramper ie out 4/5 nights week,or day,return to base be £40+k
Trampers get night out money usually bout £25 night
Bulk tippers,car transporters in the past? Supermarkets,directly employed bout best earners
Best jobs involve driving for firms distributing own account products,general haulage firm rates cut to shreds,wages accordingly

[SmoothCriminal]

As a new pass forget about even midrange pay as you'll be like a leper until you get experience, zero possibility of tankers or any other specialist work for years unless you're lucky to get in somewhere and work from the bottom up.

Also don't forget this is probably the worst time to join as you'll be up against people with years of experience, was speaking to a guy the other day over 20 years and got laid off containers recently and ended up going to an agency and is driving Van's the new guys there are getting nothing.

[jonwm]

SmoothCriminal said:

As a new pass forget about even midrange pay as you'll be like a leper until you get experience, zero possibility of tankers or any other specialist work for years unless you're lucky to get in somewhere and work from the bottom up.

Also don't forget this is probably the worst time to join as you'll be up against people with years of experience, was speaking to a guy the other day over 20 years and got laid off containers recently and ended up going to an agency and is driving Van's the new guys there are getting nothing.

I work in Transport and most decent HGV drivers on the payroll will see £35k to £40k if they stick in a bit of overtime here and there, more if you night out.

Father in law drives for a parcel business and goes Monday to Paris, overnight and returns Tuesday, out Wednesday and returns Thursday, Friday does a local trip of usually 5 hours max and he grossed £52k last year without his overnight expenses, bear in mind no loading unloading, just trailer drop and sleep, collect trailer drive home money is out there.

[grumpy52]

It also seems to depend on which area of the country you are in .
Many areas of Wales barely get above the minimum wage, I am in Kent and it seems to be £11-£14 ph basic for 40/45 hrs then overtime rates on a sliding scale 11/3 -1 1/2 ×
The extras can vary considerably night out money seems to average £23-£25 per night but can be more dependent on the system the employer operates , some also pay a daily meal allowance .
Trampers seem to average 60+ hrs per week .
I loved my time on the road but it doesn't work for everyone and tends to find the weakness in any relationship.

[D_T_W]

I cleared £44k last year, but I averaged 76 hours a week to achieve that. I do double man trunking most of the time so typically 15 hours every night.

The good jobs with the decent money never come up because the guys doing them know they're onto a good thing and never leave.

[red_slr]

Just to give you the other end of the scale, we pay £10.50/hr for class 2 w/hiab and £12.50/hr for class 1 tipper (don't currently have a class 1 driver full time) cheaper to sub it out at £2.50/mile.

We are multi drop. Class 2 driver will usually be base £22k and after OT about £25-£27k depending how many Saturdays they actually want to work.

[Glenn63]

Wages can vary drastically depending on what you want to do, days, nights, tramping, 4 on 4 off, type of work your doing and more importantly how much of your life you want to spend working. Iv been driving hgv’s 6 years and have had jobs from £400 a week to £1350 a week, iv now settled driving for a posh supermarket 47.5 hours a week doing evening shifts for around £750 a week.

[Stussy]

I’m on ex farm milk tankers, C+E, got about 34.5k last year.
We do 16:30 to anywhere between 1-4am, it’s job and finish so up to you how fast you do it. I’m usually finished around 2:30, so 10 hours a day.
We work 5 on 3 off, and are on domestic driving hours too

[GC8]

afterparty said:

Looking at Indeed, wages seem to be around £9.50 - £10.50 per hour PAYE, with overtime at roughly £13 per hour after 40 hours.

I wouldnt want to drive a glorified van on a grandfathered C1 entitlement for that.

I would suggest that around £150 a day is typical for CatC where you would be home every night (and in a more specialised field you wouldnt be working long hours either). With CatC+E and nighting out, it isnt uncommon for the hourly rate to be suppressed where the hours worked increase, because operators know that the top line figure will always bring someone in, enabling them to get away with it.

There are two quite different ways of being paid too, which affect your income. Higher 'limited co.' rates may appear attractive, but theyre always offered because i] they appear attractive and ii] they cost the operator a damned sight less than apying a decent PAYE rate would,.

[LetsTryAgain]

I'm currently looking for some weekend driving in the NW and can't find a thing.
Have contacted double figures of haulage companies and probably 2 have bothered even getting back to me.
I have Class 1, tacho card and CPC - nothing.

And (allegedly) there's an industry shortage.
Such a shortage that we still pay a tenner an hour and don't bother responding to folk.

[GC8]

There's never been a shortage. What they mean is we can't find mugs to work for this crap rate - please train more for free leading to greater oversupply.

With the EEs who will work for nowt, this rubbish is seldom heard now.

[Venisonpie]

GC8 said:

There's never been a shortage. What they mean is we can't find mugs to work for this crap rate - please train more for free leading to greater oversupply.

There's a lot of truth in that. Back in 1996 I was earning £25k as a bulk powder driver for a flour mill for 55hrs a week plus O/T (we got treble time on bank holidays). No idea what that equates to now but I very much doubt you'd get a job with equivalent wages.

[red_slr]

For those talking about low wages have you seen the cost of running a fleet in 2020?

The amount of red tape and H&S is incredible.

When I started in this game we were paying about £5-6k a year insurance. Its £20k now.
PPE and lifting gear etc can be £3-4k a year for 8-10 guys being reasonable, I could double that overnight. 20 years ago it was pretty much zero.
Down time for site inductions, training courses, DCPC, Hiab etc etc. ££££ + days of lost time.
Fuel is twice the price.
AdBlue... don't even get me started on that.
Dealers charging £60+/hr and trucks basically need dealer laptop for a lot of work.
Congestion means we are getting about 65-70% the work done in the same number of hours compared to 2005.
That's just the tip of the iceberg. You have other factors like work place pension, 28 days paid holiday, paternity leave etc etc etc.

ALL this still is not free and the majority of it simply did not exist pre 2000.