5t+ Vans

[JZZ30]

Starting to look for a new (used) van and want as big a payload as possible (4t ideally).

Is the Iveco daily my only real choice? 70c18 or 72c18.

Sprinter seems to only go to 5t mgw?

Anything else out there I've not thought about?

Might go 7.5t box, but is it possible to get 4 tonne payload?

I'm going to start another thread with some O licence questions.

[Josho]

Iveco Daily are the only ones in that class as far as I know.

Get the himatic gearbox and service it every 80k

[deeen]

JZZ30 said:

Starting to look for a new (used) van and want as big a payload as possible (4t ideally).

Is the Iveco daily my only real choice? 70c18 or 72c18.

Sprinter seems to only go to 5t mgw?

Anything else out there I've not thought about?

Might go 7.5t box, but is it possible to get 4 tonne payload?

I'm going to start another thread with some O licence questions.

My 7.5 only has a 3T payload, someone said you can get a DAF 7.5 with 4T, but I haven't checked it out.

[Darkslider]

I think a lot of 7.5 tonners are actually downplated 10t lorries for our market, which is why the payloads are frequently pathetic. Annoyingly difficult to find out payloads from most sellers while browsing classifieds too!

[JZZ30]

I'll look further into some of the DAF 7.5 tonners.

[GC8]

Mitsubishi: but they're horrible to drive.

[Mercury00]

Look for a box with lightweight panels. I work at a coachworks and a lot of customers are choosing foam core panels now instead of GRP, coupled with aluminium subframe to maximise payload. I've just built a 17ft lightweight box on a 7.5t Daily automatic, I can find out the weight if you like?

[JZZ30]

Was that a box on a Daily van chassis or a more traditional 7.5 tonner truck chassis?

If the latter, yes it would be good to know the weight, thanks.

I've looked up the DAF 7.5 tonners, but can only really find the weight without a box, and they seem to be between 3.6 tonne and 4 tonne before adding a box.

[grumpy52]

From memory all the 7.5t Daf trucks that I used to drives were as follows
All double sleeper cabs
Curtain side no tail lift 2.8t
Curtain side tail lift 2.1t
Box no tail lift 2.4t
Box tail lift 1.8t
Day van types will be lighter .
Isuzu trucks have good payloads but are f##king awful things to drive and about as reliable as a politician!

[JZZ30]

Wow, 7.5t box with tail lift is remarkably poor!

[GC8]

grumpy52 said:

Isuzu trucks have good payloads but are f##king awful things to drive and about as reliable as a politician!

Are they Isuzu and not Mitsubishis? It was these to which I was referring. Definitely a vehicle bought by someone who will never have to sit in it, and probably by people who havent ever sat in any goods vehicle.

[Mercury00]

JZZ30 said:

Was that a box on a Daily van chassis or a more traditional 7.5 tonner truck chassis?

If the latter, yes it would be good to know the weight, thanks.

It's a 7.2t Daily chassis. Much nicer to drive than the Eurocargo. I'll try to find out the weight on Monday.

[iguana]

For light 7.5t it's Iveco daily (OK only a 7.2) mitsubishi canter, izuzu n75. I don't know if they do the Renault mascot anymore

Iveco is IMHO the best to drive, I've got an older 6.5.

No where near 4t load on mine, sub 3t,but it's got a heavy body, my prev mascot almost did much lighter body 2. 7t unladen & that was another 6. 5t

Are larger vans tho in the up to 5.5t market, sprinters, & Renault & vauxhall & even Transits do or did 4. 5 & 4.6.

Edited by iguana on Monday 21st September 08:52

[powerstroke]

Think the big Iveco panel van will carry about 3.5
the Daf lf Iveco etc 7.5 ton chassis with a 20ft GRP box about 3 tons at best ..
the canter and isuzus about 4 tons
what licence do you have if its a full C rigid not grandfather you would be better looking
at a 12 tonner same size as a 7.5 just stronger springs ,hubs and wheels you would
have a good 6 ton+ payload ...

Edited by powerstroke on Wednesday 23 September 21:02

[JZZ30]

powerstroke said:

what licence do you have if its a full C rigid not grandfather you would be better looking
at a 12 tonner same size as a 7.5 just stronger springs ,hubs and wheels you would
have a good 6 ton+ payload ...

Yeah full C licence.
12 tonner would be a good shout actually, if I could find one small enough.

Any idea what makes/models I should be searching for on autotrader to have a look?

[GC8]

Many 10t and 12t vehicles are outwardly identical to their 7.5t equivalents.

Id have suggested a puddle jumper from the start had I realised that you had the licence.

[powerstroke]

JZZ30 said:

powerstroke said:

what licence do you have if its a full C rigid not grandfather you would be better looking
at a 12 tonner same size as a 7.5 just stronger springs ,hubs and wheels you would
have a good 6 ton+ payload ...

Yeah full C licence.
12 tonner would be a good shout actually, if I could find one small enough.

Any idea what makes/models I should be searching for on autotrader to have a look?

Iveco Eurocargo ,Daf LF, MAN TGL , Mercedes Atego , some 7.5 tonners
can have higher technically permitted weights , for instance I think the Atego can be plated for about 9 tons but check first .. these trucks are quite adaptable its quite common to have chassis shortened and body swaps to suit a second life or you might find a short ex fridge or tipper chassis
that you could have a short box body or whatever fitted to suit your job..

[GC8]

Ategos went up to 32t. These were renamed Axor (which were traction units initially), and the Atego now goes up to 16t.

[Mercury00]

Sorry for the late reply. I checked about the payload on the 7.2t Daily. Unfortunately it's under 4 ton. I didn't get exact figures because it's awaiting a shutter, which will probably add another 150kg to the weight of it.