Class C1 Licence, how difficult?

Class C1 Licence, how difficult?

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m3jappa

6,414 posts

218 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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ah yes i just mean c1. just want to drive a 7.5t lorry. If i ever needed more id just do another test but its very very unlikely tbh.

WilliamWoollard

2,343 posts

193 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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m3jappa said:
Can you do the test or training in your own lorry? Im not sure about insurance id have to ask them as well.
Yes, you can do it in your own vehicle. You’ll need a supervising driver who has passed C1 or C more than 3 years ago. You can’t supervise on grandfather rights. L plates front and rear, an additional set of external mirrors for the examiner. The vehicle needs to be of a closed box construction with a load compartment as high and wide as the cab. It needs to be unladen. It’s definitely worth a call to the insurance co to make sure you’re covered.

I would strongly suggest taking training and using their vehicle, you stand much more chance of passing than winging it on your own.

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

183 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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WilliamWoollard said:
Yes, you can do it in your own vehicle. You’ll need a supervising driver who has passed C1 or C more than 3 years ago. You can’t supervise on grandfather rights. L plates front and rear, an additional set of external mirrors for the examiner. The vehicle needs to be of a closed box construction with a load compartment as high and wide as the cab. It needs to be unladen. It’s definitely worth a call to the insurance co to make sure you’re covered.

I would strongly suggest taking training and using their vehicle, you stand much more chance of passing than winging it on your own.
Unladen? With my C and CE the trailers were weighted...

WilliamWoollard

2,343 posts

193 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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carmadgaz said:
WilliamWoollard said:
Yes, you can do it in your own vehicle. You’ll need a supervising driver who has passed C1 or C more than 3 years ago. You can’t supervise on grandfather rights. L plates front and rear, an additional set of external mirrors for the examiner. The vehicle needs to be of a closed box construction with a load compartment as high and wide as the cab. It needs to be unladen. It’s definitely worth a call to the insurance co to make sure you’re covered.

I would strongly suggest taking training and using their vehicle, you stand much more chance of passing than winging it on your own.
Unladen? With my C and CE the trailers were weighted...
We're talking about C1, that needs to be unladen. C and C+E should be loaded.

Its Just Adz

14,043 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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mercedeslimos said:
Starting my C lessons Thursday, P280 Scania. Looking forward to it. Be something different from the buses that's for sure.
Best of luck, enjoy it!

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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mercedeslimos said:
Starting my C lessons Thursday, P280 Scania. Looking forward to it. Be something different from the buses that's for sure.
You aren't allowed to stop every 500yrds, for a start... biggrin

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Its Just Adz said:
Best of luck, enjoy it!
Cheers! Something different, I've had my D license for 2 years now and was always the plan to get the others.

944 Man said:
You aren't allowed to stop every 500yrds, for a start... biggrin
To be fair it's been with a coach company, was working there before I ever got the license. Done all sorts of work. Schools, sports, tourist tourism high-end golf and also we run an open-top tour which I don't mind.

Coach industry down the swanny at the moment so need to upskill!

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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You'll have to get used to the banter. My instructor told me:

Big
Useless
Stupid

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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944 Man said:
You'll have to get used to the banter. My instructor told me:

Big
Useless
Stupid
Have to say I love the coach work. I also don't give a toss what machine I drive as they are all driven flat out. My favourite is a 2010 Van Hool DAF, 13 metre machine and she sticks to the road on the limiter biggrin

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Thursday 18th March 2021
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Well, that went well. Booking test next week, approx 6-8 week waiting list. Surprising how small the 9.2 metre wagon felt. 9-speed Opticruise automated manual gearbox was lovely to use. Instructor said they use 2 tonnes in the back over here, and the test route is identical to the bus test routes so feeling confident about it.

exelero

1,890 posts

89 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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944 Man said:
Are you confusing your groups? C1 is up to 7.5t. C is over 7.5t with no upper limit. You can go directly to either. C+E is C plus a trailer over 750kg and you can't do this until you already have a C entitlement.
Eeerm.... there is an upper limit of 32 tonnes as far as I’m aware smile

exelero

1,890 posts

89 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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mercedeslimos said:
Well, that went well. Booking test next week, approx 6-8 week waiting list. Surprising how small the 9.2 metre wagon felt. 9-speed Opticruise automated manual gearbox was lovely to use. Instructor said they use 2 tonnes in the back over here, and the test route is identical to the bus test routes so feeling confident about it.
Is it a 12 Tonner?

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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exelero said:
944 Man said:
Are you confusing your groups? C1 is up to 7.5t. C is over 7.5t with no upper limit. You can go directly to either. C+E is C plus a trailer over 750kg and you can't do this until you already have a C entitlement.
Eeerm.... there is an upper limit of 32 tonnes as far as I’m aware smile
Yeah, no there isnt.

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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exelero said:
Eeerm.... there is an upper limit of 32 tonnes as far as I’m aware smile
Tell you what clever clogs. Why don't you go away and try to find out which licence category I would use to drive to drive a 35t rigid.

Darkslider

3,073 posts

189 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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944 Man said:
exelero said:
Eeerm.... there is an upper limit of 32 tonnes as far as I’m aware smile
Tell you what clever clogs. Why don't you go away and try to find out which licence category I would use to drive to drive a 35t rigid.
What sort of truck would a 35t rigid be? Crane or concrete mixer maybe?

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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exelero said:
Is it a 12 Tonner?
Not massively sure to be honest. It's a P280, which is relatively OK power for the size. Over here there are 2 tonnes of concrete ballast in the curtainside body bolted down for lessons and test.

Over here it's a limit of 19t for rigids with 2 axles, 25t for three axles, and 32t for 4 axles but those apply to non-air suspension. AFAIK air allows a higher payload in all cases.

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2021
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Darkslider said:
What sort of truck would a 35t rigid be? Crane or concrete mixer maybe?
Scania make an eight wheel tipper with a 50+t chassis and a five axle Leibherr will weigh 60tonnes and they make them with up to nine axles (12t per axle, I think). He is confusing the regular legal weight limit for vehicles on UK roads with the limit on his licence. My point is that there is no limit. Same with a C+E which is HGV with trailer: it can weight 80t and the licence entitles you to drive it.

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

183 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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mercedeslimos said:
exelero said:
Is it a 12 Tonner?
Not massively sure to be honest. It's a P280, which is relatively OK power for the size. Over here there are 2 tonnes of concrete ballast in the curtainside body bolted down for lessons and test.

Over here it's a limit of 19t for rigids with 2 axles, 25t for three axles, and 32t for 4 axles but those apply to non-air suspension. AFAIK air allows a higher payload in all cases.
P280 will probably be an 18T . Most 18s are somewhere in the 220-280 catagory.

UK weights last time I checked are 18 on 2axles, 26 on 3 and 32 on 4 and I don't think air makes any difference thumbup

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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carmadgaz said:
mercedeslimos said:
exelero said:
Is it a 12 Tonner?
Not massively sure to be honest. It's a P280, which is relatively OK power for the size. Over here there are 2 tonnes of concrete ballast in the curtainside body bolted down for lessons and test.

Over here it's a limit of 19t for rigids with 2 axles, 25t for three axles, and 32t for 4 axles but those apply to non-air suspension. AFAIK air allows a higher payload in all cases.
P280 will probably be an 18T . Most 18s are somewhere in the 220-280 catagory.

UK weights last time I checked are 18 on 2axles, 26 on 3 and 32 on 4 and I don't think air makes any difference thumbup
Yep here in the EU, they upped the legal weight for 2-axle rigid trucks and buses/coaches to 19 tonnes a couple of years ago if they have "road-friendly" suspension. P280 is actually decent to drive, the 5-cylinder mill of which I've driven a lot, courtesy of a pair of ex-London Scania double-deckers.

Max5476

982 posts

114 months

Saturday 8th May 2021
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944 Man said:
Yazza54 said:
Has anyone here just rocked up for the test in their own vehicle and nailed it?
No, no one here has done that. Someone, somewhere, once, may have done; but the chances of someone who has driven on a grandfathered entitlement turning up for a test without any instruction and driving to a sufficiently high standard is almost non-existent.

Soz.
Not quite the same as trucks, but I did just that for my bike license (2010, just before they changed the rules on restricted licenses) - 5 years after doing my car, I got a 125 and went straight for the test without any instruction, passed first time.

Got my category C booked over the summer - theory test next week. Fortunately work are paying, so happy to do all the training they offer.