Becoming a HGV driver?

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Smint

1,713 posts

35 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Thanks very much for the trouble Stussy, i'm much obliged.

Its Just Adz

14,076 posts

209 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Speaking of steering trailers, I passed this today.



The rear end was weaving a bit, so I gave him a full clear when passing.

mercedeslimos

1,657 posts

169 months

Monday 6th June 2022
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I can only imagine that those wagons are absolutely wrecked in a short time from the ditches and hedgerows and overhanging crap!

Last year, I had a school run out very rural, something similar and the only machine that could make the turns was a 2010 Setra 416 at 13.040m with rear-steer. You'd still meet people and they'd expect you to reverse!

6 months of that and the mirrors are worn through the casings and scrapes on all 4 bumper corners. I was given a 2018 Van Hool EX15H after that, but that idea was soon kiboshed biggrin

Nick78

108 posts

157 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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lost in espace said:
Bootcamp progress to date: Medical completed, provisional licence received back, and booked onto a CPC course in June. Been practicing my theory and the hazard awareness, theory is no problem but hazard awareness is not as easy as I thought.

Am I right in thinking if I complete the CPC with my 7.5t grandfather rights I can start a job at this truck size, as long as I get my digi card?

Edited by lost in espace on Thursday 26th May 13:59
How's the boot camp going ?

I have registered for one and just wondered how you were getting on with it, pm me if you like i'm really interested on your experience so far.

Cheers

Nick

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Thursday 27th October 2022
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Any ideas what the going rate for C+E training is?

I may use some leave to do the driving part so considering doing it in another part of the Country.



R0G

4,986 posts

155 months

Friday 28th October 2022
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carinaman said:
Any ideas what the going rate for C+E training is?

I may use some leave to do the driving part so considering doing it in another part of the Country.
What licence do you have now?

nordboy

1,459 posts

50 months

Friday 28th October 2022
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I had a great day out in a demo Merc Actros on Monday. I haven't done any driving since passing my C+E a couple of years ago, so it was nice to get back on the road. A local transport company also lent us a large trailer to use.

The tractor unit was bloody massive (tall) compared to what I drove before, and those camera mirrors took some getting used too, I found the depth perception when reversing difficult to get used to.

But what a great place to sit and drive. I forgot how much fun it is to drive one on the roads. Admittedly it's not my living so I don't get tainted by that, but the week I originally spent doing my C+E and this day out really have been one of the most enjoyable driving days I've had. And, I think most people would say that the stuff I do during my day job would be pretty enjoyable driving wise.

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Thursday 10th November 2022
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R0G said:
What licence do you have now?
I've got the provisional entitlement and renewed the Tacho Card as I've previously done some 100 mile round trips in 7.5 tonners using my car licence.

R0G

4,986 posts

155 months

Friday 11th November 2022
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carinaman said:
I've got the provisional entitlement and renewed the Tacho Card as I've previously done some 100 mile round trips in 7.5 tonners using my car licence.
I would say you could do C1 to CE in as little as 5 days but an assessment would be a good idea

Free accommodation if over 70 miles away and one of the best training fleets and instructors are at Peter Smythe LGV training school in Notts

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Friday 11th November 2022
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I’d say go straight to C+E. Not particularly more expensive but massively useful.

r3g

3,126 posts

24 months

Friday 11th November 2022
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Has Smythe changed his fleet? I remember years ago he was cheaping out by using a rigid drag for his artic test which bears no resemblance to real world artic driving. If he's still using that I'd avoid and go with a proper training school that runs a full size artic trailer. Everyone I've spoken to over the years that passed in a drag regretted it when they were slung the keys for a 45 fter on an agency job as they were physically unable to do the job because they didn't have any true artic experience.

R0G

4,986 posts

155 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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r3g said:
Has Smythe changed his fleet? I remember years ago he was cheaping out by using a rigid drag for his artic test which bears no resemblance to real world artic driving. If he's still using that I'd avoid and go with a proper training school that runs a full size artic trailer. Everyone I've spoken to over the years that passed in a drag regretted it when they were slung the keys for a 45 fter on an agency job as they were physically unable to do the job because they didn't have any true artic experience.
Got artics now and has just had some new units delivered

944 Man

1,743 posts

132 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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I’d prefer a drag and draw for C+E as an experienced HGV driver.

I think that it is a mistake to suggest that a few half days training in a semi-trailer sets you up in any way for working in one.

I learned in the largest vehicle that the training company had, but my first day in a tiny FL6 tarmac tipper was a massive shock.

Training hard doesn’t mean fighting easy.

Smint

1,713 posts

35 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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Whether wag n drag or artic semi trailer, the theory is the same, they both bend but with thankfully only one pivot point unlike an A frame wag n drag, those are in a world of their own.

You can be the most experienced artic driver but get a full sized wag n drag and it takes a bit of getting used to, the same if you've spent years driving a wag n drag and suddenly have to drive artics again, been there T shirt etc.

I agree with 944 in that there are plus points to learning on a wag n drag, you are in a normal size rigid but with a similar size trailer on the back, the prime mover lacks the fork lift like turning circle of an artic tractor and you can't fully jack knife a drag because the design of the hitch and the front frame of the trailer will get damaged if you tried 90' angle turns which an artic can perform usually without issue.
or how little steering input the prime mover has in comparison to a tractor unit, plusses and minuses for both designs.

smifffymoto

4,549 posts

205 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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You can can get in a bigger mess,alot quicker,in a wagon and drag.

Raymond Reddington

2,971 posts

110 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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While we're on the subject, can anyone recommend a training company in Northamptonshire?

I've had a quote from Hughes Driver Training, the reviews seem mixed.

After reading about Peter Smythe I will give them a call tomorrow but would prefer somewhere local if possible.


Stussy

1,834 posts

64 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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Powerdriver in Irthlingborough were excellent

Raymond Reddington

2,971 posts

110 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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4.9 stars on Google, and I'm in the next village! I'll ring them tomorrow for some information. Thanks thumbup

Stussy

1,834 posts

64 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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I know quite a few people that used them and passed, I did my rigid and artic with them.
All of the training is done in Northampton, so by the time you do the test you will be familiar with every possible junction and roundabout on the test routes

Edit to add, the doctors at Irchester do cheap medicals, they used to put one or two afternoons a week aside just for them.
Would be worth finding out if they still do

Edited by Stussy on Sunday 13th November 21:20

Raymond Reddington

2,971 posts

110 months

Monday 14th November 2022
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Stussy said:
I know quite a few people that used them and passed, I did my rigid and artic with them.
All of the training is done in Northampton, so by the time you do the test you will be familiar with every possible junction and roundabout on the test routes

Edit to add, the doctors at Irchester do cheap medicals, they used to put one or two afternoons a week aside just for them.
Would be worth finding out if they still do

Edited by Stussy on Sunday 13th November 21:20
Thanks for that Stussy

Called Powerdriver this morning and very knowledgeable and helpful.

They're slightly more expensive than one or two others I've spoken to but put me at ease straight away, very friendly and the reviews are excellent, so I'm going to go with them. They're only down the road as well so that's a bonus.

Not sure how I feel about the chowns mill roundabout in my first time out though laugh