Fifth Gear 200mph car

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4wd

2,289 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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You can have a CTR spec car built for 50k (25k 3.3 turbo plus 25k mods). Search out ultra violent on the porsche forums.

Martin_S

9,939 posts

178 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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I'd have thought that the Ultima forum would be your best bet!

Plotloss

67,279 posts

203 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Davey S1 said:
A CTR went for just over 60K not too long ago IIRC.

For teh performance that is an absolute bargain.


NEVER?!?!??!!?!?

Blimey, thats a proper bargain.

4wd

2,289 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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The lotus has broken and you suggest tvr....mmm....

pdV6

16,441 posts

194 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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craigw said:
is this in addition to the lotus? very confusing?

Sounds like its either:

(a) Help! Tell us how to get the Lotus to do it

or

(b) As the next article on progress will be similarly lacking in results, we'd like to do a feature on similarly-minded nutters instead...

(b)?
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Plotloss

67,279 posts

203 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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4wd said:
You can have a CTR spec car built for 50k (25k 3.3 turbo plus 25k mods). Search out ultra violent on the porsche forums.


Gorgeous and terrifying as UV's car is (and its 'sucking small children into the intercooler' induction roar that it has is something to behold) its no CTR.

The CTR is more than just an engine.

bad_roo

5,180 posts

170 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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They were barking up entirely the wrong tree with that Esprit. The gearbox was already the weak link (look at the specific output of a V8 GT - a car with twin turbos and ask yourself why)and upping the power merely exacerbated this issue. Whoever decided to plump for an Esprit needs their arse kicked.

The solution that offers the best chances of success are to opt for a Skyline GTR or a Supra TT (both hefty, turbocharged engines with bazillions of tuning options) and go from there.

>> Edited by bad_roo on Thursday 14th April 13:20

xm5er

5,073 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Breaking 200mph with 50ks worth of modified car is a piece of piss surely.

Do it with 15k and then I'll be impressed.
(3.0l M3 with a yank turbo kit knocking 420bhp and diesel diff might do it)

CupraR

676 posts

162 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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bayliss said:
I work for Fifth Gear.
One of our current projects is to attempt 200mph in a modified Esprit...

Frankly you've got no chance. Sell it and buy a TT Supra.

VXR SIX

733 posts

162 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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bayliss said:
I work for Fifth Gear.
One of our current projects is to attempt 200mph in a modified Esprit.
Has anyone out there achieved a genuine 200mph in a car that cost them under 50k, or knows someone that has?
If so we'd like to hear from you.
Ian Bayliss (0121 697 1904)


What is the drag coefficient like on the Esprit you are using?
Because that will matter more than power, when it comes to MPH!

I had a 1999 Suzuki motorcycle on which I saw (on the clock) 207mph, probably very close to 200 real mph, but that was a mixture of just 170bhp in a very slippery shape.

It felt quick...when I worked it out later, that I was covering the length of the Old Trafford football pitch in less than a second, I KNEW it was quick!!!

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the fury

590 posts

175 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Is this a real request? Surely they must know better than to ask us lot? I mean, no offence guys, but we don't seem to have been very helpful in answering his question. i.e. how to get the LOTUS to crack 200? I must admit, a cerb sprung to mind as a starting point, rather than a car like the esprit which already has been extensively developed, but there must be something you can do to it ..?

HarryW

14,568 posts

202 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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4wd said:
The lotus has broken and you suggest tvr....mmm....

Coming from a man with a history of Loti and Alfa's

Harry

4wd

2,289 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Bet the grounds keeper was impressed

4wd

2,289 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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what can I say, lol...

bad_roo

5,180 posts

170 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Also it will depend on where you plan to try for 200mph. If it's at Bruntingthorpe, you'll need a car that will do significantly more than 200mph top end in order to accelerate it to 200mph in the space available.

sj78

3,257 posts

164 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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Davey S1 said:
A CTR went for just over 60K not too long ago IIRC.

For teh performance that is an absolute bargain.


Stateside they are going for less - 1990 RUF CTR Yellowbird for 31k anyone?

[url]www.fast-autos.net/features/04barrettjackson/[/url]

"Serious car collectors had a fantastic opportunity to purchase some of the finest cars in the world, and buyers with a smaller budget could still find a lot of car for the money. For example, a 1990 RUF CTR Yellowbird sold for just $58,500,"

CupraR

676 posts

162 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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the fury said:
... there must be something you can do to it ..?

Fire it out of a cannon perhaps? Or if you had a TT Viper you could possibly tow it across the line...

Phil S

730 posts

171 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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www.geocities.com/rtarry_uk

I doubt you will do 200mph at Bruntingthorpe (VMAX venue) cheaper then this guy has, he will even sell you the car for around 20k I believe - after it's latest power-hike is completed anyway, with which he hopes to hit 205mph+ at Brunters.

Check the praise from RUF owners and alike on his guestbook

dcb

5,262 posts

198 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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bad_roo said:
They were barking up entirely the wrong tree with that Esprit. The gearbox was already the weak link (look at the specific output of a V8 GT - a car with twin turbos and ask yourself why)and upping the power merely exacerbated this issue. Whoever decided to plump for an Esprit needs their arse kicked.


I strongly agree. Loti aren't for straight line performance, they are for going round corners quickly and for lying under at weekends, fixing them.

I think a Cerbera would be the right place to start. They do 185 mph stock, so only mild tweeking needed.

Aim for a top speed of something like 220 mph, and you should get there.

chippy69

3,698 posts

176 months

Thursday 14th April 2005
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A friend recently bought a Porsche Rook 530R for 50K that does 210mph edited to say allegedly!

>> Edited by chippy69 on Thursday 14th April 13:52