Autoglym leather cleaner question?

Autoglym leather cleaner question?

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lambojim

Original Poster:

691 posts

239 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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I've attempted to clean the seats of one of my cars this weekend and used the above product. I've been left with chalky marks all over my seats!

any ideas? Maybe I need to leave it a few days? Maybe I had too much water on the cloth?

Not the most exciting question I know but has nayone done the same?

Jim

tollytuff

991 posts

231 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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hello jim, been a while since i used the cleaner, (its the clear thick liquid?) but i remember washing it off with a damp cloth afterwards, i have light grey leather so maybe the streaks were there but didnt show up. it was definately not chalky though. i always use the leather feed after and remove the eccess with a dry cloth, maybe that would remove the cleaner?

prelude4ws

590 posts

274 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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let me guess this only appears on the backs and sides of the seats and on the door panels, bit the bits you actually sit were fine?

if so welcome to the world of cars made by accountants, that stuff is very good on REAL leather, goes all chalky on vinyl. Most car seats are actually vinyl the real leather only appears on the bits you sit on.

expensive leather interior huh?

lambojim

Original Poster:

691 posts

239 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Jesus you might be right. ...But on a Continental GT? Me thinks not!

prelude4ws

590 posts

274 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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opps!

note to self read: members profiles before answering question!

Having said that its not beyond the realms of probablity, Bentley/VW will make a car to a price. but yeah you would have thought that in that car it would all be real leather!

Also the leather, depending on grain and surface finish, can actually be plastic coated anyway!

In most cars these days, the only way to tell the difference between leather and vinyl is to look at the back of the material.

NiceCupOfTea

25,287 posts

251 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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the leather cleaner is pretty good IMHO.

Just make sure you rinse with plenty of clean water and a clean cloth. Had no streaky problems with mine, even on suspected vinyl bits.

Don't forget to feed it afterwards! (yum!)

lambojim

Original Poster:

691 posts

239 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Ah..I didn't clean it first...will re do tonight. Thanks for help chaps - knowing VW it's probably vinyl anyway!

James

NiceCupOfTea

25,287 posts

251 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Yes, I clean mine with AG leather cleaner (rinse off), and then feed with AG leather food stuff.

Does the job, although I don't clean it first every time as the back seats never get used and I don't have a particularly dirty backside!

Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

251 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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When you have used the leather feed does anyone find it has a really nice finish then after a few hours or even days the surface seems to go dry again? The seats in my Audi Coupe are black leather and look great after the application but later look dull and dry again???

Any offers?

Cheers,

Steve

Leatherman

1,030 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd June 2005
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I manufacture Upholstery Leather for a living and can tell you that 90% of problems are the result of so called cleaning and conditioning products. Automotive leather has such a heavy pigment coat applied to it to ensure that it meets the incredibly long list of requirements set by the motor manufacturers that it might as well be vinyl. All that is needed to clean it is a slightly damp cloth and a soap solution (natural not perfumed) or a light squirt of fairy liquid. If you apply any of the so called hide food's all you will do is to break down the surface of the leather and cause premature wear. The British Leather Confederation carried out tests on a large quantity of these products and came to the conclusion that they are either, a complete waste of money because they are in fact only soap and water, or caused damage to the leather surface.
In the good old days of vegetable tanned leather as used in cars prior to about 1960 it was essential to use a hide food because the leather did not have a pigment coating and would dry out quite quickly. Modern leather is chrome tanned and does not suffer the same problems.

jimothy

5,151 posts

237 months

Thursday 23rd June 2005
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lambojim said:
I've been left with chalky marks all over my seats!


Akin to a 12 year old boy's duvet?

davislove

2,295 posts

246 months

Thursday 23rd June 2005
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I haven't used the leather cleaner but.....

I used some leather clean wipes and the seats looked awful afterwards, too shiny and greasy.

I used the Autoglym Leather Care afterwards and the seats returned to their 'natural' look, in addition they were supple and felt great........highly recommended

stackmonkey

5,077 posts

249 months

Thursday 23rd June 2005
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I've used some recently in an attempt to get the interior of the TVR clean.
The autoglym cleaner managed to get the surface dirt off but not ingrained dirt and you do need to rinse it off afterwards..

I''ve ended up using Belvoir tack cleaner, followed by Belvoir conditioning saddle soap, followed by the autoglym leather restorer/feed cream.

Still not managed to get the driver's seat looking really clean, but it's much better than before and is much softer .

Leatherman

1,030 posts

226 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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Stackmonkey - Your leather will feel softer because tack cleaner and conditioning soap in fact will melt the pigment layer. Keep it for the horse tack which is made from vegetable tanned leather and needs to be regularly oiled to keep it supple.It has no pigment layer so the oils go straight in. With chrome tanned leather such as yours it sits on the surface and eats away at the pigment coating. Good old soap and water is all you need and if the dirt is engrained use a soft nail brush.

Leatherman

Leatherman

simpo two

85,363 posts

265 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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Leatherman - interesting info. I have a 1997 TVR with red half hide and 2001 Jaguar with ivory hide. I use Liquid Leather by Gliptone, maybe once a year in the Jag but more often in the TVR as the seats are directly exposed to the sun. Am I doing the right thing?

kamal996

4,225 posts

244 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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This is really interesting Leatherman-

I found the best product to be made by Zymol. Its available in Halfords and is a light soap solution that you spray on and wipe off fairly quickly. Its very easy to use and leaves the seats in a naturally matt state. The front seats end up looking like the rear seats that hardly ever get used on my cars.

I also heard that very very hot water (using marigolds to protect those delicate hands) is also very effective??

Leatherman

1,030 posts

226 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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I know the Gliptone products very well because we tested them on our upholstery leather. The tests were carried out by the BLC (British Leather Confederation) before and after application. The conclusion was that the leather without the product passed the rub test which is a test designed to simulate wear. The same leather after application failed because the product has softened the pigment coating and caused premature wear.
The Halfords product is probably in fact a mixture of soap and water so why pay for something you can get out of the tap at home.
This is the conclusion of the BLC after testing a variety of different products on the market.

Quote "Investigations at our laboratories have shown that some proprietry cleaners and conditioners do cause damage to the leather finish and accelerate the effects of normal wear and tear. Therefore, we do not advocate the use of proprietry products, but suggest that upholstery leather is only cleaned with a soft white cloth dampened in warm mild soapy water and then wiped off with another cloth dampened in plain water. It is important not to wet the leather" Unquote

This advice is even more important for those of you with leather furniture in your homes which is far less durable than automotive leather.

As far as very hot water is concerned, forget it.

Balmoral Green

40,863 posts

248 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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So, to re-cap, have I got this right?

Dont use a leather cleaner, just cold water and soap and then plain water, but dont wet the leather.

Dont feed afterwards as it does more harm than good?

The 1st I can accept, but the latter?

I use liquid leather and it feels and smells great, should I not use it?

richb

51,531 posts

284 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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I have been using a damp cloth and soap and then Connolly's hide food for years and it seems very good and smells great. Rich...

BliarOut

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 24th June 2005
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Leatherman, I use good old fashioned Kiwi boot polish on my brown leather sofa. The back fades quite quickly as the sofa is in direct sunlight in a south facing room, but the kiwi seems to do the job for about a month until it's time to reapply.

Is there anything better that I could use?