would you buy a evante if it was produced again.

would you buy a evante if it was produced again.

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Wigeon Incognito

3,271 posts

217 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Agreed, although I get a feeling that if I tried an Evante I'd want to take one home too!

Oh I definitely believe the MX-5 took its inspiration from the Elan. Not a copy in the replica sense though, more an evolution. What I was trying to say was that that is what the Evante appears to be too - certainly not a bad thing. Unfortunately for me the Evante evolved in terms of pace too!


Edited by Wigeon Incognito on Monday 19th March 00:53

Cpn Jack Spanner

2,632 posts

204 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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I always loved the old Evante, though if it it was made to day, it'd need more power than it used to. Well, the OPTION of more power at least. Nothing too big and heavy though, whatever is in the VX220 may be enough.

There should be a good market for this - for the more individual people who want something less common than an MX5. TVR did okay in this market - making affordable, simple, all-British, rare cars with balanced everyman styling and a nice sounding rumble. Then for some reason they decided their customers didn't want any of these things, and they left the market to Lotus!

I would consider buying one. It'd need a single folding roof though, like the MX5. Not sure, but didn't the Evante have a classic Origami roof.

chris71

21,535 posts

241 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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I'd swap my mk1 1.8 eunos for an elan any day - if someone would care to give me the £10,000 price difference, pay for enough servicing to reliably complete 15,000 miles a year and find a way to make the hood seal. Despite owning one, I actively dislike the fact 'everybody' has an MX5 and would much prefer a British made, low volume sportscar (like I've owned in the past) But the price difference is insumountable and when you up the performance to fit in with the new price bracket, you're faced with an army of existing kit/low volume car companies.

Cpn Jack Spanner

2,632 posts

204 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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It's the price that's the thing - how many times have new manufacturers appeared, announcing that their new car will be the best thing ever at a giveaway price, then, several months later, the car appears with a price tag 50% more. It seems this sort of thing happens at least every other year, with Panther maybe taking the bigest bisciut on the Solo (started as a rival to the MR2 when it was about £12,000, the Panther ended up on sale for around £45,000).

So... Offer two models, one very basic model for under £15,000 (to get them in the door)... then lots of extras that they will believe they can't do without.

I never understood why Rover never seemed to offer any options like this on the MGR.


grahambell

2,718 posts

274 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Cpn Jack Spanner said:
Offer two models, one very basic model for under £15,000 (to get them in the door)... then lots of extras that they will believe they can't do without.


Which at that price would include doors, a windscreen, seats...

Hard fact is that you simply couldn't sell an all-new hand built car for under £15,000 and make a profit. Caterhams are about as basic as a car can get, yet look at how much they cost (start at 16k in kit form).

tomuch

Original Poster:

143 posts

206 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Hi guys
thanks for the input.
90v8 Hi Thanks for input : yes it is symon , You have me at a disadvantage .
If you wish to keep your i.d. hidden send me a email .or you could let me have a clue to your I.D. I hope you are well how ever you may be. .
Just been sent information there is a evante on ebay 120099355683 looks real nice.
CPN jack spanner : I looked for a solo by panther for some time , the only 1 i was offered had a bad fire in it engine bay . I did not by this car as the owner ship was disputed and there were no replacement panels at the time .
The solo was more like a ford RS200 in the way the drive train was developed.

I really liked that car . there are a couple every year at enfield pageant .

O.k. :How fare have i got not fare i must admit.
I have had confirmed there is some difference between the spyder chassis and the evante ,
I have also had confirmed spydercars developed the original chassis for evante .
then after the first batch evante manufactured there own chassis.
All bady parts can be made .

I think i am about a 3rd of the way to locating or upgrading the original development of the evante .

I am looking for a engine builder that would like to be linked to vegantune , You would need the time to further develop the engine`s that vegantune own . both for emissions and performance .Build engine for vegantune customer to a high standard.
I am in the proses of getting msa approval for vegantune engine . in different classes of motor sport. To further open up the market to vegantune .The emotions and engine development will have a big part in the evante and some of the early vegantune engines are being considered for the evante along with the 16valve vta or the original 8 valve option .If we manage to get all thing in the right place and production cost where we need them to be. We feel it would be a good thing the fit our own engine in the evante.

Well i really like the evante shape as it is .
I think it still has a place in the market place.
A fixed roof would be a advantage in today's market place .
Evan the coupe model may have a place in today's market.

Thanks again guys for the input / feed back.

tomuch

Original Poster:

143 posts

206 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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hi guys
before some 1 advices me of my errors .
All body parts are available.
and it is the emissions from the engine.
not the engines emotions .
sy

tomuch

Original Poster:

143 posts

206 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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90v8 : hi jack . Hope all is well just worked out how to find out how is behind the tag.

90V8

6 posts

204 months

Wednesday 21st March 2007
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Simon. Glad you worked it out, no mysteries here. I'm trying to support / back the Evante name, we love them.
I must apologise to other posters / readers for my unintelligible rantings on Mon.
The Evante is a pretty machine with a real boot and with the right power is a fantastic car.
I will re-iterate that it is not a folding hard top japanese machine, it needs looking after but will reward anyone who is prepared to look after it.
If it can be made and sold for £15K then it will be a success all over again.
Not sure it can be, its success before was that it could be ordered with the wilton carpets and leather everything. Surely that can't be done these days for 15K.
Perhaps the last poster was right about the 'get them in the door basic option' but the whole point was the turn key luxury.
Maybe the bhp per ton will get them in, Honda power then.


tomuch

Original Poster:

143 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st March 2007
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Hi jack
O.k a update for all you guys .
The moulds for the engine heads have been found along with the moulds for the rear uprights ,
yes : i have been driveing all over spalding contacting ,speaking to enginer from the early days of vegantune .
What history thay hold,If only it could all be wrighten down for future generatuion
What skills these guys hold.
I have found out that it will be possible to make a new chassie and the new rolling chassie will be able to have some updates to the front end .
which we will be able to be pass on to the early cars to upgrade the front ends.
How little that 15K sounds .
A zetec will help bring cost down . Then upgrade models quicker engines , or vegantune, FVA ,VTA .
Thanks to every one for all your time today ,You have all been a real help.
thanks sy

tomuch

Original Poster:

143 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st March 2007
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Hi jack
O.k a update for all you guys .
The moulds for the engine heads have been found along with the moulds for the rear uprights ,
yes : i have been driving all over spalding contacting ,speaking to engineers from the early days of vegantune .
What history thay hold only if it could all be written down for future generation
What skills these guys hold.
I have found out that it will be possible to make a new chassis and the new rolling chassis will be able to have some updates to the front end .
which we will be able to be pass on to the early cars to upgrade the front ends.
How little that 15K sounds .
A zetec will help bring cost down . Then upgrade models quicker engines , or vegantune, FVA ,VTA .
Thanks to every one for all your time today ,You have all been a real help.
thanks sy

90v8

6 posts

204 months

Wednesday 21st March 2007
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Simon.
I personally wouldn't worry about the insurance aspect. Even when I was an irresponsible driver (ha, ha. So responible now!) I was driving a kit car aged 19 with insurance premiums less than £200. I even specified the engine tune, I swear the more it was modified the cheaper it got.
I have had to go to specialists (the on-line bunch don't understand the word modified) but I have the Evante insured for less than £300 in London and it is not on a classic policy.
My Landy is less than £250 with a V8 conversion (modified) and big wheels etc.
Right insurance company, right price.

90v8

6 posts

204 months

Wednesday 21st March 2007
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AND,
What sort of front end mods?
Currently we have double wishbones with coil over shocks (good) and triumph trunions at the bottom. (not so great but more than workable). We all know we could go rose joints but does your chap have a complete re-work idea?

tomuch

Original Poster:

143 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd March 2007
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Hi Jack .
I can only explain the front up grades as going away from the triumph and replacing it with a hand made unit . It would look more like a atom unit . A upgrade to the steering rack. looking at changing drive shafts. the gear stick will be moving forward . It has been suggested to mount the diff slightly different. We are looking at the cost this weekend of the parts we can get. Then we will be checking the body bucks and trying to find the coupe body buck .I am also going to look if it would be possible to get a fitted roof .I would like to make them slightly different to the early cars .I would like the early car to become more sort after and move the value up . There for lifting the value of the new cars.
John sissy is prepared to reverse engineer the vegantune fva head for me if we can not find original moulds.
thanks again to every one i have met over the last few days all you help is really good.
sy

Robert Green

39 posts

164 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Nothing to do with me but there is a nice looking Evante on eBay at present. £8500. Hence I found this thread!

mmatthej1

17 posts

143 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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Out of interest, did anything come of the Evante resurrection plan? Presumably not !