IS A WOODEN GARAGE LEGALLY A GARAGE?

IS A WOODEN GARAGE LEGALLY A GARAGE?

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Planman350i

578 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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incorrigible said: Looking at this from the other angle

Can I build a large brick shed without planning permission

Shed would be about car sized, anyone know the rules


See my response to bigairbox original query. Same rules apply whether you intend to put a car in it or not.

incorrigible

13,668 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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Planman350i said:

incorrigible said: Can I build a large brick shed without planning permission
See my response to bigairbox original query. Same rules apply whether you intend to put a car in it or not.
So basically it depends whether it's big enough to be need PP ?

I just want to get on with it, waiting 6 weeks isn't really an option

M@H

11,218 posts

236 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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If a proposed shed or other structure exceeds 10m3 and is within 5m of any part of the house it is classed as an extension to the house and will need planning permission if the sizes for house extensions are exceeded.
Otherwise the proposed building would only require planning permission if any of the following apply:

it exceeds 3m in height or 4m if it has a pitched roof; - it is closer to the road, pavement or any public footpath than the house; - more than half the garden area will be taken up with buildings.


Cheers
Matt.


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Planman350i

578 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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Try this for further help:

www.planning.odpm.gov.uk/householders/index.htm

Not an offence to start construction without p.permission, as you can apply retrospectively, but you do run risk of enforcement action if it is a building that the Authority conclude that they would not normally permit.

RCA

1,763 posts

232 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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Did not think you would need planning for a wooden garage as isn't a wooden building classed as temporary???

jaydee

1,107 posts

233 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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RCA No, not necessarily.
I'm sure planman or bob will confirm, but garages are usually fairly straightforward as far as planning is concerned, but, as mentioned above, check that the insurers are going to accept the structure as a garage

manek

2,970 posts

248 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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JonRB said:

CarZee said:Besides, there's also the added peace of mind in respect of security and indoor strorage will always be better for the car - especially a ragtop where water ingress can be a problem.
And hood fading. And body colour fading. And keeping it cleaner - the amount of dust and crap we get on the cars in the car port is incredible.




Absolutely, excellent reasons all.

But doing it to get cheaper insurance doesn't, much to my astonishment at the time, seem to work at all.

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

241 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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I have a 24ft x 12ft wooden garage.

Planning rules are different for brick and timber construction, from what I recall the most important thing is that a temporary timber garage needs to be at least 15ft from any part of the house, otherwise it becomes an extension and subject to PP. There are also rules about the volume not exceeding a percentage of the volume of the house or I think 75m3, but I can't remember the specifics.

I do know that after neighbours complained about mine (like they do) the council took quite some interest, but agreed it did not require PP and went away. I also know that mine is 15ft 1in away from the house, and 'er indoors is miffed that she can never have a conservatory because of it.

Insurers do accept it is a garage, but needed to be convinced. Which reminds me, I never did send them the photos they wanted.

Edited to add:

Most councils have a enquiry desk in the planning dept, and if you pop in someone will come out and talk through your plans. They aren't always 100% correct, but it worth talking to them, it doesn't take long and is free. If you can get them to confirm in writing that you don't need planning permission it might save grief later on, but you'll be lucky (jobsworth principle). Worth a try though.

>> Edited by victormeldrew on Friday 2nd May 13:59

incorrigible

13,668 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd May 2003
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Planman350i said: Not an offence to start construction without p.permission, as you can apply retrospectively, but you do run risk of enforcement action if it is a building that the Authority conclude that they would not normally permit.
I always though this could be viewed as taking the piss, may be my best option though

Trouble is I've got to get permission for an extension on another house (don't ask, it's ludicrously complicated) soon and I really don't want to get a name for myself down the council

JohnL

1,762 posts

229 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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I heard - from someone who claims to have done it - that a wooden building with a sill on the ground (like at the bottom of an interior door) is a shed and you can build it. No sill, it's a garage.

Check this up before you believe it entirely tho', I wouldn't rate my source terribly highly

Alan420

5,323 posts

222 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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outlaw said: i got away with one with out a roof and no doors with inshrance company once.

the wording was the car was keeped locked in a garage.

the car was locked lol
they tryed it on but i won
the policy never said any thing about having a roof or doors



What are you like!?!?!?




T-17amn

1 posts

71 months

Thursday 25th February
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We have 10 wooden garages abs looking to rent out for people to store cars but we can’t seem to get business is orange to cover the 10 wooden garages? Anyone help? Thanks

LordHaveMurci

10,684 posts

133 months

Thursday 25th February
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T-17amn said:
We have 10 wooden garages abs looking to rent out for people to store cars but we can’t seem to get business is orange to cover the 10 wooden garages? Anyone help? Thanks
Serious lurking, resurrecting an 18yr old thread yikesrofl

sociopath

1,281 posts

30 months

Thursday 25th February
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LordHaveMurci said:
T-17amn said:
We have 10 wooden garages abs looking to rent out for people to store cars but we can’t seem to get business is orange to cover the 10 wooden garages? Anyone help? Thanks
Serious lurking, resurrecting an 18yr old thread yikesrofl
One post in 6 years, maybe he was building up to it