E46 BMW M3 Prices

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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Been looking through A Trader and am Amazed at what prices these start at these days.... basically £11k upwards for a 51 reg car.

New they were Circa £38k so they have lost £27k in 7 years or £3.8k p.a. depn or £316pcm.


Question I have is what goes wrong with cars of this pedegree and age? And say I bought a £12k example with say 60k on it and ran it for 5 years so that it would be a 12 year old car and push up the milage up to 140k.

Servicing wise it would be either Main dealer serviced or local Indy (are there any in Reading?) purely to help boost its residual value.

Martin_Hx

3,955 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Servicing i would say, also been looking at these. Allot of car for the money, just scary when things go pop.

Insurance was very high aswell - 25yr old, 4 years NCB - £1700

Would still like to know myself smile

Welshbeef

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198 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Ins quote for 15k a year incl Business miles - £830pa.

Thats near on 3 times the cost of the ins of my Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo for only an additional 120bhp.

paoloh

8,617 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Welshbeef said:
Ins quote for 15k a year incl Business miles - £830pa.

Thats near on 3 times the cost of the ins of my Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo for only an additional 120bhp.
What about the extra value of M3??

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 9th July 2008
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What about the extra value of M3??
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Well from an ins perspective pa its £530 extra and from a VED perspective its £220 extra p.a.

So £750p.a. extra Just for the car and that assumes self servicing.
Yes its RWD, yes it looks very good & of course its pedigree and it is a step up on the performance scale

paoloh

8,617 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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How much is your Fiat worth?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

270 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Welshbeef said:
Ins quote for 15k a year incl Business miles - £830pa.

Thats near on 3 times the cost of the ins of my Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo for only an additional 120bhp.
Parts for the M3 are more expensive, the M3 is more attractive to theives too.

Then theres the value consideration, I'd guess that an M3 is getting on for 3 times the value of the Fiat.

paoloh

8,617 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Welshbeef said:
What about the extra value of M3??
Well from an ins perspective pa its £530 extra and from a VED perspective its £220 extra p.a.

So £750p.a. extra Just for the car and that assumes self servicing.
Yes its RWD, yes it looks very good & of course its pedigree and it is a step up on the performance scale
I think you missed my point. I am talking about value of the cars.

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 9th July 2008
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paoloh said:
How much is your Fiat worth?
Well its covered 65k and is in very good condition - I'd say value anywhere in the £2-3k range given the depressed car market.


paoloh

8,617 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Welshbeef said:
paoloh said:
How much is your Fiat worth?
Well its covered 65k and is in very good condition - I'd say value anywhere in the £2-3k range given the depressed car market.
The M3 is worth circa £15k... You feeling me?

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 9th July 2008
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The M3 is worth circa £15k... You feeling me?
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As a comparator a Porche 996 Turbo only costs £450 like for like.

Still £750pa extra EXCL servicing...
How much is servicing on the M3 at a Main dealer? Oil, Inspection1, inspection 2?

bluesntwos

91 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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I remember going into a BMW dealers a few years ago and there was an M3 in there with its engine in bits all over the floor. Can't remember why but apparently it wasn't an uncommon occurrence. I believe there may have been a design flaw or something. Sorry to be vague but someone else may be able to elaborate. Worth bearing in mind though.

dxb335d

2,905 posts

195 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Dont think you will get a 60k mile M3 for 12k.

Most of em would have cost 45k ish new with decent options.

Great car for the money, although alot have been smacked.

Mr Whippy

29,024 posts

241 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Get an Alpina B3 3.3 instead smile

Or if you can stretch to it and don't want an auto, a manual 3.4!

M3's are nice, but that engine is a big liability as the miles rise. I'd take the plunge but keep £3,000 handy for a biggie, and expect maybe £1200 a year for consumeables like brakes, tyres and so on, before just general servicing bits.

£15k to buy, but still £45k car running costs.

Imho, the Alpina will be cheaper to run, rarer, more interesting, and much better residual prospects smile

Dave

Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Mr Whippy said:
Get an Alpina B3 3.3 instead smile
B10 don't you mean?wink

Dunk76

4,350 posts

214 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Mr Whippy said:
Get an Alpina B3 3.3 instead smile

Or if you can Imho, the Alpina will be cheaper to run, rarer, more interesting, and much better residual prospects smile
Trust me, the Alpina B3 is not cheaper to run than an M3.

Works out about the same when you factor in the Alpina being more to insure than an M3.

You need to be doing serious miles in order for the slightly better economy and fractionally cheaper servicing to pay off.

As for residuals - theoretically yes, but then trying to sell an Alpina isn't easy.

ETA - all B3 and B3s in the UK are Auto. Only 3.3 manual was the B10, and the only 3.4 auto was the Roadster S.



Edited by Dunk76 on Wednesday 9th July 18:14

rallycross

12,787 posts

237 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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how can you compare an M3 to an old £2k Fiat?!

Dont get me wrong I do like the old Coupe 20v Turbo but its chalk and cheese to an E46 M3

NST

1,523 posts

243 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Welshbeef said:
Been looking through A Trader and am Amazed at what prices these start at these days.... basically £11k upwards for a 51 reg car.

New they were Circa £38k so they have lost £27k in 7 years or £3.8k p.a. depn or £316pcm.


Question I have is what goes wrong with cars of this pedegree and age? And say I bought a £12k example with say 60k on it and ran it for 5 years so that it would be a 12 year old car and push up the milage up to 140k.

Servicing wise it would be either Main dealer serviced or local Indy (are there any in Reading?) purely to help boost its residual value.
no experience my self but cus had one for a few years from new.

inspec I about £350 inspec II between £600-750 this is a couple of years ago so prices may have gone up.

always dealer service. he did around 25K ayear 90% motorway. new tyres (19inch) every 9months or so depending on how much fun he had.

not a cheap car to run. did go into the dealership for work at least once a year. nothing serious though.

imho as already stated by another poster, good idea to have a 2K cash pot for any serious work. plus £800 for tyres and £400-700 for a service. better to have extra cash than fall short.

NST

Edited by NST on Wednesday 9th July 19:04

okgo

38,001 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Welshbeef said:
Ins quote for 15k a year incl Business miles - £830pa.

Thats near on 3 times the cost of the ins of my Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo for only an additional 120bhp.
Good god, I still cannot belive you wrote that..

jeff666

2,320 posts

191 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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have you driven an m3 yet? go for a blast in one, i doubt you'll want to get back in the fiat after.