RE: Skoda Fabia vRS
Discussion
sjg said:
While we're on the subject - any news of a new Fabia vRS yet?
Its been stated in Auto(car/express) that it will not be until 2010 at least. It will not be a diesel instead a turbo petrol.Maybe the 1.4TSI 140bhp/150bhp.
I think it will be possibly put back even further now due to the economy as people will not be changing cars & will not be buying top of the range.
Mr Fenix said:
Fabia VRs is a damn good hot hatch more so considering its a diesel. Handling could be doing with tightening up and sort the suspension & interior out and I'd have bought one when I test drove 3 years ago.
I have to commend KIA and Hyundai for pushing the performance bargain envelope that most of us mere mortals can enjoy and admire. 100k mile warranty and performance... mmmhmmm...nice !
But only a tiny minority change the suspension & change the interior of a car - 1. as its expensive to do 2. not many people want the hassle of doing it 3. it will be a modified car and most buuyers are not interested in them - especially garages taking them in as part exchange.I have to commend KIA and Hyundai for pushing the performance bargain envelope that most of us mere mortals can enjoy and admire. 100k mile warranty and performance... mmmhmmm...nice !
I think for the time being as there is no vRS fabia - the Fiat Grande Punto Sporting 5 /3 door 1.9 150bhp tdi is the one to go for.
sjg said:
130bhp. And that apparently doesn't exist any more - dealers can't order them.
Apparently the 1.6 120bhp is coming (as used in the new Bravo) but I'm not sure they're officially available yet.
Ah yes - that 1.9 Unit is getting on a bit now and only offers 50mpg combined however the 1.6 Unit @120bhp is hardly any slower but will only cost you £20 to £30 a year VED & 65mpg to boot.Apparently the 1.6 120bhp is coming (as used in the new Bravo) but I'm not sure they're officially available yet.
I bet VAG are considering a 1.6 TDI too for the POLO chassis & possibly the Golf as it really makes sense.
Welshbeef said:
Reluctantly yes - as when Im done with the car the Mrs will have it + she wants nippers before long so rear doors are a must.
Hmmmm, lame excuses. Sorry, but they are. When you are done with it, so many years? Nippers, well they can still use a 3dr car, and lifting lightweight children is good exercise.Those are the kinds of lame excuses that see people buying crappy MPV's...
Dave
Edited by Mr Whippy on Thursday 2nd October 15:00
Mr Whippy said:
Welshbeef said:
Reluctantly yes - as when Im done with the car the Mrs will have it + she wants nippers before long so rear doors are a must.
Hmmmm, lame excuses. Sorry, but they are. When you are done with it, so many years? Nippers, well they can still use a 3dr car, and lifting lightweight children is good exercise.Those are the kinds of lame excuses that see people buying crappy MPV's...
Dave
Edited by Mr Whippy on Thursday 2nd October 15:00
Time frame - who knows could be a year or more.
People buy 5 door cars just for thie very reason.
Welshbeef said:
Biggest problem it has is only 3 doors & the fact it is much more £ than the Ibiza FR/Sport for not much more pace.
Slightly shameless plugEdited by Clark on Thursday 2nd October 16:19
Holy thread resurection, Batman ...
Borrowed one of these off the in-laws last weekend to drive to the local swimming pool. Ended up adding a few miles to the trip on the way back. In real world driving this thing has quite serious mid range punch ... giggle inducing acceleration ... not because it is brain warping, because it isn't, but it's a hell of a lot more than you'd expect from a small diesel Skoda. Ride and handling is a well judged balance between sportiness and comfort. It has a lot of grip, quite a bit of feedback, pretty quick steering, corners flat, doesn't dive or squat, is properly firm but not harsh - absorbs the bumps and jitter form rough surfaces. You could actually sit in this thing for a few hours without your backside going numb and your teeth falling out.
Borrowed one of these off the in-laws last weekend to drive to the local swimming pool. Ended up adding a few miles to the trip on the way back. In real world driving this thing has quite serious mid range punch ... giggle inducing acceleration ... not because it is brain warping, because it isn't, but it's a hell of a lot more than you'd expect from a small diesel Skoda. Ride and handling is a well judged balance between sportiness and comfort. It has a lot of grip, quite a bit of feedback, pretty quick steering, corners flat, doesn't dive or squat, is properly firm but not harsh - absorbs the bumps and jitter form rough surfaces. You could actually sit in this thing for a few hours without your backside going numb and your teeth falling out.
Been looing at a LE Fabia VRS and a Golf TDI Sport 140. Private seller wouldn't let me drive the Golf so was wondering how much slower is the Golf than the VRS?
In terms of build quality and refinement is the Golf that much better than a VRS?
I did notice the engine was louder in the VRS but the insurance on the Golf is £115 more. Asking price on Golf is £10.5k - registered Dec 06, VRS is £9.5k registered May 07.
Also, Golf was originally registered in Cyprus as it's a parallel import but is UK spec. Are imports harder to sell on?
Thanks
In terms of build quality and refinement is the Golf that much better than a VRS?
I did notice the engine was louder in the VRS but the insurance on the Golf is £115 more. Asking price on Golf is £10.5k - registered Dec 06, VRS is £9.5k registered May 07.
Also, Golf was originally registered in Cyprus as it's a parallel import but is UK spec. Are imports harder to sell on?
Thanks
Edited by Gumpert on Wednesday 17th February 00:40
Shropshiremike said:
I remember Autocar had one as a long termer - did n't they get some fairly rapid acceleration times out of it once run in? Something like 7 seconds for the 60 sprint?
I think that one must have been tweaked unless it was the high 7's, although ours is nippy it doesn't feel 7 secs to 60 nippy, not with the wife driving anyway. Gumpert said:
VRS is £9.5k registered May 07.
Those blue special editions hold their value ridiculously - that is nearly 3 years old and only about £3k less than when new! (Still, they were good value to start with!)The performance is on a similar level to the Golf 140, but the Fabia feels punchier somehow
Pkh72 said:
Shropshiremike said:
I remember Autocar had one as a long termer - did n't they get some fairly rapid acceleration times out of it once run in? Something like 7 seconds for the 60 sprint?
I think that one must have been tweaked unless it was the high 7's, although ours is nippy it doesn't feel 7 secs to 60 nippy, not with the wife driving anyway. Hub said:
It isn't anywhere near 7 seconds to 60 - mid 8's is more accurate. You need two gearchanges for starters, and first gear is useless. A 7 second car is modified!
I'm only reporting what Autocar timed their long-termer at with real timing gear. As I say, it surprised them but who knows whether it had a very good service on one drop-off at the dealer I'll dig it out later - it was certainly 7.something
Shropshiremike said:
Hub said:
It isn't anywhere near 7 seconds to 60 - mid 8's is more accurate. You need two gearchanges for starters, and first gear is useless. A 7 second car is modified!
I'm only reporting what Autocar timed their long-termer at with real timing gear. As I say, it surprised them but who knows whether it had a very good service on one drop-off at the dealer I'll dig it out later - it was certainly 7.something
Edited by Pkh72 on Wednesday 17th February 08:45
Pkh72 said:
Shropshiremike said:
Hub said:
It isn't anywhere near 7 seconds to 60 - mid 8's is more accurate. You need two gearchanges for starters, and first gear is useless. A 7 second car is modified!
I'm only reporting what Autocar timed their long-termer at with real timing gear. As I say, it surprised them but who knows whether it had a very good service on one drop-off at the dealer I'll dig it out later - it was certainly 7.something
Edited by Pkh72 on Wednesday 17th February 08:45
Hub said:
Those blue special editions hold their value ridiculously - that is nearly 3 years old and only about £3k less than when new! (Still, they were good value to start with!)
The performance is on a similar level to the Golf 140, but the Fabia feels punchier somehow
Well the Fabia is Polo sized... so it has less pie to lug around.The performance is on a similar level to the Golf 140, but the Fabia feels punchier somehow
Crackling little car, we're on our second.
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